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Yeah, this is the (early) thread for the coming Macworld in San Francisco, starting on January 10th 2006. :)

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My first comment to this event: Apple is going to hold press conferences at all Apple HQs all over the world... Cupertino, Munich, etc... on January 13th, to 'demonstrate' the new products which were announced at the MWSF '06. ;)

I predict steve throwing another camera this year. That and iLife apps crashing in the OSX x86 demo.

Odds on in rumor world that we'll be seeing the intel ibook (6 months earlier than originally thought) ..

Id kinda love to see something completley new - like the rumored mac mini media centre! :D

or the ibox, Apples first gaming console.. hahah hahah

Pippin was Apple's first

noo you don't say ? Just that it wasn't distributed by Apple nor sold anywhere else than in Asia.
So you can say that it doesn't "exist"

Don't sass me. ::domina:: Pippin was distributed in the US in 1996, and regardless of who produced it, it ran Mac OS and was Apple designed. More info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pippin

The "iHome" will likely debut as well as MWSF usually brings completely new products... and Apple is out of new iPod types.... Just hope for HDMI or at least DVI out.

I want an Apple TiVo kinda media center... in the form of a Mac mini maybe, DVR... connectable to the actual Mac of course. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

They would need to implement OSX in a dashboard like way instead of TV into OSX.

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holy crap its days like this i really realise just what a complete and utter mac freak geek i am... i can't actualy sleep for thinking about tomorrow, hell i've read every forum post news article and grubby bit of info type rumor i can get my hands on....

you guys excited about macworld, I know I am.

Mactels will mess around with the mac gaming market for sure,
btw, IMG is going to be at MacWorld which I think is cool since I think this is the first time, and I know whatever comes out tomorrow may affect mac gaming for the good or bad.

Some infos in case of gaming and the MWSF '06. ;)

http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8714.msg131308#msg131308

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1448

shit it i don't trust apple insider one bit...

then again now im going to get proved wrong.

iMacs first? dosn't make sense - and powerbooks before ibooks? definatly dosn't make sense. Logic says to piss on apple insider from a great height

... sods law says apple insider is about to piss on bfg from a great height.

It's more logical to update the Powerbooks first, they deserve it more than any other Mac.

You knew it was coming...

hahaha im going to get pissed on!!

iMac with Intel Duel Core chips!! F*CK ME!!

http://www.mac.com

Pictures (http://engadget.com/2006/01/10/steve-jobs-keynote-live-from-macworld-2006/).

http://www.apple.com

http://www.apple.com/imac/

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

http://www.apple.com/ilife/

http://www.apple.com/iwork/

http://www.apple.com/dotmac/

Don't do it yet... give me a date and time, and your adress. ;)

Nothing, you might as well just give it to me. Or... iNaru's iBook's motherboard broke a few days ago and is unusable now (reparing it would cost more than a new one)... hint, hint? ;)

Hmmm...would iNaru have sex with me to Coldplay's "God Put A Smile Upon Her Face"?  I would love to make it 4 women to that song.  ;)

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The video of the Keynote already:

http://macworld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/mw/index.html

 :)

euw enough allready!! Poor iNaru!

My 12" PB 1Ghz is now looking decidedly old... quite asside from my 'power house' desktop which is going to get the shit kicked out of it by a measly imac!! the powerbook still excels in what it was meant to do though, GS think of it this way - if tomorrow you woke up and had no laptop would it matter? if yes then its not worthless - its valuable to you!!

ps... thanks civic, i've been wanting to know what the url for apples website was for years ;)

... It was meant as a heads-up that the site and the product pages have been updated.

And more pictures from the MWSF '06:

http://media.99mac.se/bildreportage/mwexpo2006/

Can't help but say


Shade... bet you kinda wished you'd waited a few more weeks for that iMac? ;)

If you look at the 'graphics' section of the new imac on the apple website, its all 'games games games' ... more so than the past... and with an X1600 ATI 256MB graphics card in... its pretty damn inpressive.

When we start seeing new games coming out for mac-intel... it looks like they are going to be absolutly screaming - and the want for people to load up windowz to play games isn't going to be a factor if porting becomes easier (ie not having to support PPC anymore plus middleware support)

kinda interesting that Aspyr have had to get a lot of middleware for PC sorted out in their port of Civilisation4 for mac - some they have had to licence, some they have had to make their own versions off... but i think news like that boads very well for mac gaming in general! :D

So don't jump ship for Mac Gaming.. i think the futures looking pretty good!!

Can't think of it that way - I love this computer, can't have the latest edition of any Mac for more than a few months.

I'll still be whoopin your candy ass ;)

I guess that iNaru and Civic got a new reason to get an new Macbook ;)

(iNarus comp is fucked :P)

Nah, too expensive.

Just updated to 10.4.4

Everything feels good! no problems at all to report. :D

Can I download the keynote somehwere, don't like streaming.

not yet


ps. seems to be a problemo with the quicktime updater - apple have pulled it and replaced it with an uninstaller... uh oooh

Yeah, my iChat gives me a QT error whenever I (try to) open a videochat window since I installed the update:

Interesting the debates raging regarding Firewire800 and Apples support - there seems to be great surprise about the lack of FW ports, not to mention external SATA port ... 

great news about ATIs X1800 though! :D


Oh, what the heck is the ExpressCard/34 slot  on the new powerbook (no i don't want to call it a MacBook Pro - its a bloody daft name and i don't like it!!)

Apparently it's downgrader to 7.0.1 for some reason

Yes, I'm complaining about it in another thread as we speak...  



I agree, "MacBook Pro" is cheesy.

It's the usual downgrader for <10.4 users... they released one with every new QT update since 7.0.2. The problem I had was caused by an iChat tool called ShowMacster and the developer ensured me that there'd be an update ASAP.

Apparently they pulled the update, replaced it with a downgrader, then reposted the update (don't know if the repost was an updated updater if that make sense... well it would make sense if it was!)

agreed GS. - It won't stay like that though - as i said in other thread i think its due to the new motherboard being made for apple by intel not being ready - so the off the shelf pc board dosn't have either... at a guess!

I don't know if it's related or not, but after I upgraded to 10.4.4 , RVS has been acting up on me.
Terrible start lagg everytime and freezing up on me in the after-game windows.
Anybody with 10.4.4 have the same probs ?

no but it sounds kinda similar to my expereinces when running 10.4.3   .... i still can't exit the game, normal procedure is to force quit, then put the comp to sleep and wake it up again!!

GS.. when the time comes and you want to upgrade..let me know..I do Trade-in's.

www.seattlemacstore.com

Anyone have info on whether Apple's EFI shipped with the Intel Macs is backwards compatible with BIOS booting [for windows]; if not we will wait for Vista this fall to get dual-boot.

no news that i've been able to find - its the question everyone is asking though. As soon as someone gets their hands on one though we should find out :)

Also possible is the Itanium EFI version of windows... time will also tell on that.

regarding gaming and Intel macs... from glenda adams:

Glenda was the worst pessimist prior to this move. I guess the WoW demo won her over.

And the fact that you can pretty much forget about playing (I mean not just being able to start it... I also mean competitive performance) Windows games on an Intel-Macs in the near future, if ever. Being able to install Windows on it or even support for the GPU is not everything, there are many more aspects... and looking at the great performance of games on Intel-Macs now, there'll be MANY more top games coming to the Mac (as a few companies announced already), making Windows and any hacks needless.

thought this was interesting:


Apple really needs to pull its finger out when it comes to OpenGL - when you look at the 2.0Spec apple needs to do some catching up and help push things foward on the OS.

Civic which other aspects where you thinking off? If VPC has GPU support then thats the biggest problem gone. networking etc is not an issue with VPC at the moment. what did you mean by  'other aspects'?

even if it has GPU support it won't be that fast, it still need to take more CPU power to make for example a game work. But overall the system will have a performance boost.. Somewhat.

Why is it you are acting so damned stupid ethion? The emulation was slow due to two things:

• No GPU Support
• Non-x86 Processor requiring total code emulation

Incase you aren't paying attention the GPU emulation is the only one of those points that would still cause a slow down, but now the processor can be directly accessed by the VPC framework. There would be no damned slow down more than the 5% to make the OS 'go'. If Microsoft can make the Graphics Drivers aware of the Apple firmware on the GPU, then it will work at near native [90+%]. BIOS or EFI it won't matter if MS can get to the chip directly. Don't think that they don't want to, they want all the sales they can get and VPC being decent would ensure no lost revenue as Apple marketshare expands slowly.

Keep it cool headed please myst, valid comments etc but dont pull out the flamethrower thanks.

Ethion, the biggest problem with VPC before as Myst has pointed out was that a complete emulation had to take place for X86 code to run on a PPC processor. The intel chips remove that problem and that quite simply means that it isn't a theoretical 'somewhat' performance boost - its a major factor and can mean major speed increases... in fact we should be actually just discussing which areas where it will be being slowed down, not speeded up.

As i understand it the next version of VPC is being rebuilt from the ground up and isn't going to be around for quite a while- but there is a lot of work going into it between apple and ms

get giddy with it

Oh and if you all want know, I have an IQ of a fish, so Myst.. shut your mouth.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10853916/site/newsweek/page/2/


http://wiredblogs.tripod.com/cultofmac/index.blog?topic_id=2025

http://www.eliteproductionswi.com/apple-ps/AppleIntel-vs-PostalService.mp4


Update:

http://wiredblogs.tripod.com/cultofmac/index.blog?topic_id=2025

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=zmaAZwkhYeQ

they even say it's not fair in the beginning of the clip :P Where the mactel is right out of the box. And the iMac has to load all kind of things in the beginning.

I'd like to see that again with a formatted and reinstall iMac vs a out of the box Mactel.

No, the iMac G5 has been restarted once after the initial 'fresh' installation of the OS. Same goes for the iMac Core Duo. But yes... something seems definitely wrong.

When we are on the subject of copying stuff, I agree completely with this comment made on the cult of mac blog.
The add makes the apple moto "think different" ludicrous.

Do you criticize the 1984 commercial for it being based off a book and movie with only minor changes also? Apple has done this before.

Didn't like the ad much to start with - felt pretty unoriginal and not really like it was hitting its target.

... liked it a whole lot less after seeing the comparison with the other ad heh.

http://nak.journalspace.com/?cmd=displaycomments&dcid=407&entryid=407

http://www.macworld.com/2006/01/features/imaclabtest1/index.php

http://obeysleepy.hostiz.com/article.php.html

http://winxponmac.com/The%20Contest.html

Heh.

So someone needs a kinda EFI / BIOS Emulator...  no way hosey!?

heck from what i've read if someone can get a BIOS reliant system like XP running on one of these new EFI reliant Macs then i think they deserve one hell of a lot more than $100

They can't even get pre-builds of Vista to run, although it's supporting EFI. Apple chose not to install certain parts which'd make it easier and more compatible.

but Vista sucks anyway. So does their earlier builds.

http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/1844211&from=rss

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

As we all can see from raving new sites, the MacBook shipped with 1.83 GHz low end and a 2.0 GHz high end (top can go up to 2.16GHz for $300].

yeah thats pretty sweet, free upgrade heheh im seeing seriously happy guys that have ordered macbooks... they're in seventh heaven.

Hope this is the sign of things to come,.. regular nice tasty CPU upgrades ;)