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Bummer dude, hang in there.

Well - it doesn't look good they even mentioned Gulfport specifically as one of the hard hit places when I watched on the news and I remembered you were from there.

Seems as though it's died off though once it hit land but it still was pretty bad.

I heard somewhere that when it was a Cat 5 storm it contained enough energy to equal 10 Hiroshima atomic bombs, and that when it hit land as a Cat 4 it was equal to a 30 mile wide F2 tornado. Crazy shit.

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Sounds like to me GulfPort as well as the GulfCoast got pwnt.  Hope it didnt hurt the rebuilding from Ivan to much, my grandparents own a condo in Orange Beach.

Good luck and god bless.

i hate to say it, but if your auto dealership got flooded..hope it's all ok.

They say the Gulfport was the main plae for landfall... I saw picts of it.. and the houses there are just foundations now. GS.. i hope everything is ok.. and Let us know whats going on.... you still got my cell number? If so give me a call and give me an update.

Good luck.

I just saw some pics from Gulfport on CNN and it didnt look pretty. I hope your house was spared, good luck.

You know whats great about the U.S. is these states are getting the shit kicked out of them yet assholes still think that they have to go around looting and fuck people over even more.

My condolences to you, and I hope for the best.

Ghost....hope for the best but be prepared for the worst. We're thinking of ya man. Good luck. :o

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 :o That thing wasn't half as huge when it came over South Florida.

[posted]Beware the giant swirling cirle of death.[posted]

I keep seeing pictures of Gulfport on TV and it's terrible - roads are completely destroyed - houses are leveled and there are people starving on top of their roofs while the helicopters fly over them and watch.

they're just screwing themselves over more, local economy and quality of life in those parts is going to be shit after these store owners have to shut down...don't think anyone is going to be wanting to open a new business in a hurricane ravaged ghost town.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=atQE1z.YQo4o&refer=top_world_news


Yep, an area on the Coast the size of Michigan got completely Pwnd.  Makes me glad I left my house that would have been in the "disaster area" and living up in Iowa.  Sorry to say, but GS, I doubt any house a half mile from the beach would still be standing.

All your "Stuff" has value until something like this happens, when family and friends become first and foremost.

Dark...

1) Learn to put in a URL


2) He probably knows this by now.

Hey, guys thought id give a little information on the subject. I live a little ways west of all this in Houston, Texas, and today we got 500 Buses of people from New Orleans to come and stay in our old baseball stadium the Astrodome. Tons of our hotels are full and i am seeing people from other states in my school now, and they will be there from the rest of the year I'm guessing. Churches, community centers, and just the people in general are sheltering people who need it. As Im sure some of you know New Orleans is 7 feet below sea level with no sea wall, just ancient levies made out of dirt to protect. So at this point in time there is nothing to call New Orleans. The disaster really hurts me because i am seeing thousands of people in my home city with no homes or anyplace to go. Gas here now is absolutely ridiculous 3.00 a gallon, and won't be going down anytime soon.

My greatest condolences go out to anyone that has lost any love ones or is effected by this horrible thing. I love going to Louisiana great people, great food, and a great party place. All the new people at my school we be getting help by the community so that is a small victory. To all the other states hit i wish them nothing but the best, and i hope everyone will eventually get to go home.

gas is around 6 bucks in europe lets stop whining at nobody and start whining to officials about public transportation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207202.stm


There are still tens of thousands of ppl in New Orleans stranded over there without food or water (it's been 4 days already).


You would expect to see these scenes at the poorest of nations, not the richest


Be angry and outraged by this, not the freaking price of gas.

It is so rediculous.

We live in America and have people STARVING on their rooftops and we aren't doing a thing!

Where is the aid here? - you can't tell me we can't give these people WATER and FOOD - just the basic necesities of life?!

They tell them to collect in the stadium yet they aren't doing fuck all to help them.

new orleans was always in danger people were warned waaaay before this hurricane, it was inevitable. they should have had an evac/rescue plan lined up ready to go, especially recently with all the hurricanes hitting florida.

All the rich white folkes left in advance cause they had the money leave.
80% of the people still there come from poor black communities.
Maybe a reason why help is so slow ?

We can invade and capture Baghdad in 3 days, but we can't evacuate New Orleans in 4.....

2 previous posts sum it up quite nicely. president bush goes and publicly congratulates fema even though they obviously don't consider an entire city underwater with tens of thousands of starving people in chaos a top priority.

I have just one question: WHERE THE FUCK ARE OUR LEADERS?

Your precious leader has finaly arrived at the scene, he visited Alabama and is heading for Bilouxi.
Guess which city isn't on his itinerari ....
That is correct New Orleans.
Just saw it on the Dutch News, haven't found a Internet sourse yet.

Shame on you Mr Bush.

The Republican agenda in action.

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nice collection of stuff you have and havent seen

http://eyeball-series.org/kat01/katrina-01.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ifs_news/hi/nb_rm_fs.stm?nbram=1&news=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&nol_storyid=4208824

An interesting interview with the mayor of New Orleans where he lets rip over the lack of help.

Sixhits, to answer your question, only the mayors were there.  I also agree with Bronto, there should've been a plan to evacuate more people.

I pray for all those still stranded.

Blitz

The National Guard was ready for this.  It's them who would have  helped out greatly yet nobody sent them in - I'm not sure who's job it is to make the final word on when to send them in but they should be removed and flogged.

Well I don't think the president gives that order cause the only group he can personally control is the Marines so it's probably some higher up in the Navy ranks.

well to start with the moron shouldn't have turned down the help from the rest of the world - those extra helicopters, food rations, water, etc etc would have saved lives.

Australia pledged more money to help than the U.S. government has given.

The problem is that we had the supplies to help yet the government wouldn't react.  In times like these you can't stop and ponder you just have to do it.  How could Bush rush into Iraq so fast yet not help his own citizens who's deaths could have been easily prevented.

The fact that this is a poor black community has been brought up many times.

Your new colour makes my eyes hurt, Shade, I can barely read it.

i really like how we're three days into the ACTUAL HELP and supplies, and military having arrived and making BIg progress, and you guys are still bitching about the first 48 hrs...??

Not to mention all the logistical problems of say like ALL THE WATER, and no communication, and no power,etc...having some effect on the first 48 hrs (oh yeah and and crazed Crackheads with GUNS taking potshots at relief workers and stuff) oh and the mobbing and overturn of the first red cross relief boat, which was assaulted and looted upon landing, then SUNK.........good fucking grief.

Natural Disasters dont just fall into place and everything just works out great, and everyone gets off blame free, its a FUCKING DISASTER.... Its almost like you guys expect a problem this large to get worked out in the span of a forum post or a stitcom resolution...get real.

Bad shit is bad, bc BAD SHIT HAPPENS

Also, I just saw that it showed GhostSniper as having Logged in today, if so, we all hope youre OK bro...please post when you can to fill us in..

Thoughts are with you guys.

yes, the road over lake ponchetrain closes during a hard rain.  Much less a freakin horrible hurricane like this.  GS did you drive through Mobile??  How is mobile?  I know that you should have gone through it to get home...

Ouch, I was under the impression that the figure was around 1000, overall. I Guess it's much worse than I thought. Good luck with the reconstruction and all that, and watch out for looters.

Glad you're ok. Amazed that your home is more or less intact and damage free. Someone must like you.

I have no idea why. :-)

Good to hear from you dude, keep us posted.

... Um over hear the reports i've been hearing suggest the total dead could reach or exceed 10,000   ... but 80 to 100,000? surely not?

Right, 100.000 people who were stupid to be to poor, to sick and to old to move. Get real GS.

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 im sure you didn't actually mean that GS? or is anyone in the US who who dosn't have or can't afford a car stupid?


- Re the death toll, this is all contradictory to what i've learnt, and i'm really not sure that you will see a death toll anywhere close to this.

Almost 40,000 People are still unaccounted for but its accepted that the vast majority of them have probably either survived the storm or had already left the city without informing (or having) anyone to inform about their whereabouts.
Computerized estimates have been drawn up which is double what Ray Nagrin predicted (10,000) - but a lot of people are predicting it will be far far lower.  
when the WTO was attacked initial estimates of the dead were 30/40,000 - revised then to 10,000 and in the end it was fewer than 3,000.

And i strongly suspect that some of those missing will never be traced.

I'm curious....This reasonable and realistic pov...do you mean that the people who dont have an education(or as you say, are too lazy - then can blame themselves for dying or staying behind?) or since new orleans has no unemployment(WHAT??)...since EVERYONE should be able to get a job, a car, gasoline to get out of town? are you saying that the ones that stayed behind, with exeption of elders and sick people - that everyone can blame themselves for staying and underestimating the storm?

I can't quite believe what im reading. Are you honestly telling me that there is no unemployment and that these people deserve to die, or rather be left by their government to starve and die of dehydration?  Civic what your saying beggars belief, im not quite sure what to say.

Nearly 40 million Americans that live below the official poverty line, and i won't get into just how disproporunate the number of African Americans and Ethnic minorities who  make up that 40mill is.

New Orleans has one of the highest poverty rates of any of America's big cities.

I’m glad you didn’t include the word "gaschamber" in that post Civic. You might as well have.

I won't even bother to justify myself or to explain my post... you totally misinterpreted it and even interpreted BS into it. Whatever, thanks.

No no, please do justify yourself, and you obviously need to explain your post as for some astonishing reason it seems my self and Magnetic misunderstood when you said


Although what the real 'meaning' behind this post if it wasn't saying that "poverty is no excuse for these lazy and stupid people because there are jobs and if they have ended up like this then it is their own fault" then i must just be very stupid

This is GS's thread so I'm hesistant to respond with any more of my usual.

But it's plain factually incorrect to say that those people in NO were too stupid to leave. For one, the majority were not able to leave. No money to buy transport, too old and forgotten.

But let's just say for the sake of argument that every single victim in NO both knew the hurricane was coming and decided to stay and take it on the chin.

It is STILL the responsiblity of the Government to protect them. Just because they are idiots doesn't give the President permission to let them drown, starve, and dehydrate to death. The single most important reason why Governments exist is their duty to protect their citizens. Our Government lead by President Bush who was elected as the "I'll protect you" President failed to protect tens of thousand of people AFTER the worst natural disaster this country has ever seen.

Frankly, the only reason why Republicans talk about "don't play the blame game" or "there'll be time to assign blame later" is because the people they voted for are the one's to blame.

What Bush has taught is that we are all alone now. Our Government doesn't serve us, doesn't even serve the core constituants who votes all those Republicans in. Our Government chooses to let people die.

Regardless of WHY people are in a life threatening situation, it is the Government's job to protect them.

Bush and the Republicans refuse to protect you. They'll come up with a thousand and one excuses for WHY they refused to protect you, but they can never deny that they refused. They had the ablity. They lacked the will.

hey Civic, i'm still curious. ofc you should justify yourself if we have missunderstood what your opinion was. if what you have written isnt what you meant to write or you badly expressed yourself.
cause right now, i dont see any bs put into what you have written. BFG pretty much stayed pinned to what you wrote. and again if its a mistake, plz enlighten us. because right now your post reads -

that you think that the people in new orleans that dont have a job, should have one because there is so many jobs available..therefor they should have money for a car and gas. it also reads - that the people who did badly in school are lazy and "stupid" therefore they dont have jobs and had it coming. and you state that there is pretty much no unemployment in New Orleans. who told you that? or is that a mistake? it also reads - 5 percent are old or sick...you feel bad for them...but the rest sorta had it coming to them?

plz explain m8

Civic, it's the writers responsibility to get his mesage out there. Never blame someone for misinterpreting your posts, because they read what you write, and not what you think. So, if you don't mean what is written there, you better explain exactly what you mean, and stop walking away from what is your responsibility.

Civic...by not replying to our posts you kinda tells us that we are all morons. Do you feel so superior to us that you won’t disgrace yourself to answer our simple questions?

its starting to feel that way... Although at the same time I'm starting to wonder that if you wont explain what you actually meant and how we miss-interpreted it, whether it's actually because you meant exactly what you said and just don't/can't justify it. ?

Would be nice to know...

Ok Civic. Maybe you didn’t lose face by not replying, but you lost a friend.

At least LSU won, possibly giving hope for a bright to folks down there. I hope the team does very well even in the face of the disaster.

Well, I'm back online at home...finally!  But I'm still not back online at work yet.  Hopefully I'll be back online there and that will allow me to martial the GG Section like I'm supposed to.  But for now, I'm pretty much BACK!

Woot!  Martial Law in the GG Section![/size]  ;D

Good to see you're 50% back... Let's just hope you can help out with my report

Blitz 8)

I miss your biased closeminded arguments. Come back soon... asshole.

jk jk much love and best of luck

Hazard

Civic, this is an absolutely rediculous and a totally close minded view of how our society works. I seem to be interperating it in the exact same way that everyone else in this thread has. You may not be required  to justify your views to us, but by refusing to do so, you only cement our opinions regarding the above post as pertaining to the "correct" interpritation of your views.

hi again,

just curious if you are going to reply to this? if you have changed you mind and now feel that what you said was wrong, is fine. i'm just wondering why you wont respond and either let me know if you stand behind your words

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that would be civic.

but now that you're here. how are things going w you? gs

well i'm glad to hear you're ok. sorry to hear about your co-worker though

I'd like to apologize for my post and not replying. I can't back it up because, to be honest and after thinking about it, it's complete crap and I shouldn't have posted it in the first place. Sorry.

not that you owe me one m8, but your post is very much appreciated!

nj

Kudus to Civ who finally put the record straight.

All-righty, cool civic glad u set the record straight there :D

That's not the only thread you digged up today... ::) Quite a post rampage.