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Title: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: Civrock on January 24, 2005, 06:17:10 pm


(http://www.industrial-technology-and-witchcraft.de/images/mac/macintro.jpg)


Never seen video footage of the introduction of the Macintosh in January 1984 was published for the first time on the Internet today. The German media agency TextLab (http://www.textlab.de/) has unearthed the only surviving video tape of the launch. Renowned Mac user Scott Knaster (http://foodisworse.typepad.com/this/) kept that Betamax video tape for 21 years.

21 years ago today, on January 24th 1984, Apple introduced the Macintosh. And we've seen that 1984 wasn't like 1984.

What we've never seen indeed, was the big day itself. Lots of historic stuff has been preserved - images, texts, even sounds, and the saga has been told on and on. However only very few people have actually seen how Steve Jobs pulls the first Mac out of this bag, how the Mac introduces itself to the public, Steves biggest grin ever, and how he is obviously overwhelmed by this moment in the Cupertino Flint Center.

Fear not, faithful Mac believers. We have found it. We have found what seems to be the only copy of a public TV broadcast on that very day. It was recorded and preserved by Scott Knaster, the "legendary Mac hacker", as Amazon puts it. Scott kept the tape (a NTSC Betamax III longplay) for 21 years since he keeps everything. Andy Hertzfeld saw it when he wrote the story "The Times They Are A-Changin' (http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=The_Times_They_Are_A-Changin.txt)" on folklore.org. From there we followed the hints, and that's how we found it.

We worked with Scott to convert it from NTSC to PAL, we've polished it, cleaned it, huged it and digitzed it. Here it is. It goes back to the people who've made the Macintosh, and to the world. The complete material of about 2 hours is returned to Scott, Andy and the folklore.org people, and this weblog will report the story of the "missing 1984 video" in detail. We'll release other clips in the coming days, so bookmark and check back.

But now, Ladies and Gentlemen: please welcome - the 1984 Macintosh introduction video. A travel back in time...

You can try a time sliced download here (http://www.industrial-technology-and-witchcraft.de/video.php), and if this is overloaded (it probably is), there are mirrors at macnews.de (http://www.macnews.de/news/58099), php-schmiede.de (http://www.php-schmiede.de/1984macintro_2.mov), ppcnux.de (http://www.ppcnux.de/pub/MacOSX/1984-macintro/), ftp.ppcnux.de (http://ftp://ftp.ppcnux.de/pub/MacOSX/1984-macintro/), MacTechNews.de (http://www.mac-software-updates.de/1984macintro.mov) and elbewerk (http://homepage.mac.com/sdomanske/.Movies/The_First_Mac.mov).




Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 24, 2005, 06:44:15 pm
Ah, the Macintosh is finally legal to drink alcohol in the country it was born in.  ;)

Happy 21st Birthday Macintosh!!!


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: .vooDoo. on January 24, 2005, 07:01:11 pm
Direct links would be nice since the majority of the viewers here dont speak German.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: Civrock on January 24, 2005, 07:08:31 pm
alright, no problem:

http://81.92.6.144/1984macintro_2.mov

http://www.php-schmiede.de/1984macintro_2.mov

http://www.cluecoder.org/~bene/ppcnux/1984_macintro/1984macintro_2.mov

http://www.mac-software-updates.de/1984macintro.mov

http://homepage.mac.com/sdomanske/.Movies/The_First_Mac.mov


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: Ethion on January 24, 2005, 07:22:19 pm
*sniff*


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 24, 2005, 09:42:14 pm
Steve hasn't changed a bit.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: Supernatural Pie on January 24, 2005, 10:22:08 pm
Scary when you think about how far we've come since then...

Progress can be a beautiful thing.
 :)


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: 80_Proof on January 24, 2005, 11:13:34 pm
Ill Drink to that hehe ... Tollins Care to join me?


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BFG on January 25, 2005, 01:27:52 pm
from suit to trainers... from um hairy to bald as a babby hehe.

Wow that crowd puts the modern day macworld crowds to shame heh, that is serious enthusiasm!

*sniff* ;)


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 25, 2005, 10:07:30 pm
They would still do it more if steve had more hair.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 26, 2005, 01:33:38 am
A lot of people don't know this...that Mac in the video wasn't an original 128k Mac.  It is a special 512k Mac...the 128k didn't have enough RAM to run the program.  But alas, I still love my original 128k Mac.[/size]  ;D


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 26, 2005, 01:36:45 am
GS you get ripped off every time you get a mac, first that then the single 1.8?  ::lol::


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 26, 2005, 01:39:20 am
GS you get ripped off every time you get a mac, first that then the single 1.8?  ::lol::

Hey, at least my 128k Mac is a collector's item![/size]


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 26, 2005, 01:51:21 am
Whilst the 1.8 is now worth 1499. :-X


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 26, 2005, 01:53:53 am
Whilst the 1.8 is now worth 1499. :-X

Well, maybe a little more than that...I do have 2.5GB RAM and an ATi Radeon 9800 Pro in it now.[/size]


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 26, 2005, 02:23:11 am
you still get bumped down for it being a Rev A and used.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: cO.Kuza on January 26, 2005, 07:12:16 am
NERD ALERT NERD ALERT


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BFG on January 26, 2005, 01:38:17 pm
GS just out of curiosity what do you use your macs for? Other than gaming (AA etc) , forum whoring and other essential matters ;)


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 26, 2005, 03:28:22 pm
GS just out of curiosity what do you use your macs for? Other than gaming (AA etc) , forum whoring and other essential matters ;)

Well, I use it for Photoshop and PageMaker.  My parents are missionaries and I make all of their brochures and newsletters to give to the churches.  I also create my own brochures, newsletters, etc. for my customers here at the car dealership.  Another thing I do is make all of those military tribute web pages....I've created over 1,000 of them so far.  Other than that, I use it for general stuff like gaming, surfing the internet, converting my VHS tapes to DVD (I have a converter that works with iMovie), and burning music CDs (I hate MP3...I only burn in AIFF format).


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BFG on January 26, 2005, 04:00:24 pm
Pagemaker.. U looked at the new 'Pages' from apple -seems like a very nice simple DTP for newsletters etc, very user friendly (surprise surprise)

Howd u do the VHS to DVD - I mean how are you hooking your player to your Computer etc...

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My parents are missionaries

That explained a lot ;)



Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 26, 2005, 07:31:26 pm
Pagemaker.. U looked at the new 'Pages' from apple -seems like a very nice simple DTP for newsletters etc, very user friendly (surprise surprise)

Howd u do the VHS to DVD - I mean how are you hooking your player to your Computer etc...

The VHS to DVD is a converter made by Pinnacle Systems.  I have the MovieBox DV which plugs into your FireWire port on your mac.  On one side of the box, you plug in your video, and left and right audio channels (also S-video if you have it) and on the other side you plug in the FireWire.  You use iMovie to capture the video, then you can edit the video and burn it onto a DVD, or transfer it back through the converter and make a new VHS tape.  The actual converter box is very pretty and is designed by the good folks at Porsche.  I picked the converter up back in June when I visited BTs_Lee.Harvey in North Carolina at the Apple Store there (my first trip ever to an Apple Store...the nearest one to me is 400 miles away).  It works very good, and I have already converted mine and my parent's wedding videos, home movies, and lots of other stuff to DVD.

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My parents are missionaries

That explained a lot ;)

Doesn't it?!  muhahahahaha


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 26, 2005, 09:31:28 pm
....now we have to wait a whole 9 years before we can celebrate Macintosh's 30th birthday.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: Civrock on January 27, 2005, 12:43:23 am
whole 4 years till the 25th, 29 years till the 50th, 79 years till the 100th... ::)


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 04:04:04 am
I just cant wait for the 22nd, that will be a PARTY!   ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause::  then there will be  ::beer:: ::beer:: ::morecider:: and   ::dj::  which then causes  ::banana:: ::banana:: which turns into  ::ass:: ::ass:: then more  ::beer:: which causes  ::stupid:: then lastly you get  ::lieb:: ::lieb:: ::lieb:: ::bussi::  Ahh isnt it great!  Then we will all be like  ::sleep:: then more  ::knutsch:: ::knutsch:: and  ::shot:: damn you killed kenny, you basterd!







Look a dancing banana! ::banana::


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 04:28:22 am
Apple has no respect for odd numbers!


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 04:40:34 am
such numberist people


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 05:03:09 am
I mean, do you see them honoring the 21st anniversary ?


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 05:21:10 am
or the 23rd, OUCH i JUST POKED MYSELF IN THE EYE!~


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 05:33:58 am
silence you, this thread is dead.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 05:36:39 am
Never!  But really the 25 year celebration should bring some cool new techs


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 05:37:32 am
Admins, merge last page with spam drop box.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 05:41:18 am
I agree with myst!  wtf am I saying...


Look a dancing banana ::banana::


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 05:42:37 am
Enough is enough. Why aren't there more admins?


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 27, 2005, 05:53:28 am
Enough is enough. Why aren't there more admins?

Because Mauti wouldn't let me be one.[/size]  :(


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: spike on January 27, 2005, 06:22:05 am
Perhaps they don't enjoy being ordered around and will do as they see fit? Just an idea...


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 01:28:08 pm
They should learn their job then.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: Brutha on January 27, 2005, 01:40:19 pm
Shut up you...Lets wait for 25. They have to celebrate that...don't they?


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 05:03:03 pm
I would imagine that they should, If it was me Id be celebrating it!


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 05:48:15 pm
The mac cube to be 1 inch x 1 inch x 1 inch. That would be soo MUHAHAHHAHAHAHa


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 08:49:18 pm
1 inch squared that would be so small I would lose the bloody thing.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 09:18:56 pm
Maybe it will be the PS9 from the PS2 commercial (original intro one).


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 09:24:50 pm
They would have to use ubermini disks then...


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 09:27:09 pm
Disks? Try a evolved form of iDisk, that would allow uber fast connections. That is actually the future!


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 09:30:16 pm
Im talking about games...


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 09:31:13 pm
So am I. You can download games legally you know. It just takes awhile.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 09:34:27 pm
I think not having games for sale non via the internet will increase pirating


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 09:36:38 pm
That's possibly the most retarded thing ever. You can't hack into servers like that, and it's no harder to upload a CD to someone than a simple file. One way you get it when you want it, and you don't have to get up :D


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 09:43:54 pm
The CD takes manual labor and dowloading a nocd image and getting a registration code, you have to go get the cd or have your forgetful friend give it to you, rather than downloading it off the internet then easily finding a no cdimage and code off the internet.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 09:46:32 pm
1.) No CD images are for the people who don't have toast. (A application, reading your stuff I bet you you wouldn't know)

2.) Registrations codes would be included in the transaction. (not the CD image)

3.) Say what?


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 09:51:58 pm
they would be included in the pirated game? I dont  think so, and I have toast, it tastes good with jelly and honey,  anyway toast, do you me roxio toast? the app that burns cd's and such?


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 09:54:06 pm
The app that mounts images that get recognized as CDs.

CD keys are always included on the stupid torrent trackers....not that i use them.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: c| Lone-Wolf on January 27, 2005, 10:03:24 pm
You know what's fun?  This went from Macintosh's introduction in 1984 to pirating software in the present day and age.  And the entire conversation has been hijacked by pretty much two people.  Why dont you two (Myst & dark) just PM each other, so everybody else doesnt have to read it?

I think that's a fine idea.

-Lone


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 10:06:05 pm
He asks questions to me I answer questions from him. There's nothing stoping other people to post along the topic lines of the post. We went from 1984--->2004---2009 and what would be there. This isn't truly off topic.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 27, 2005, 10:10:00 pm
This was a civil conversation about new technologies and such  I dont think we were off topic.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 27, 2005, 11:19:10 pm
Disc are already being phased out. I believe it will have a application that will work like the iTMS that lets you purchase a game and DL it through only that application using a secure format. for removable media there will be things like sony's memory card.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: DarK. on January 28, 2005, 09:24:24 pm
prob with that is peoples internet connection, 56k would take DAYS to download (legally) a game like RvS:AS  That is why I dont see the disc being phased out quite yet.


Title: Re: The Lost 1984 Mac Video
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 28, 2005, 09:32:39 pm
I wasn't aware people still used 56K.