*DAMN R6 Forum

Today after almost two weeks of heavy discussions, investigations and more than 60posts in the admin section, we, the *DBL admins came to adecision in the cb S&C vs .iP. (cb ID  2985):

In short: .iP. submitted a CQB cb win against S&C on 13th february. S&C said that they never cbed them on this date.

2 admins saw a game room S&C vs .iP. open, and one of them saw it closed 8mins later(far too short to play a cb), the behaviour of some involved players, the denying from S&C, and some interviews let us belief that .iP. submitted a faked cb and is punished hereby with 1.5warning points.

In the name of the *DBL admins,

*DAMN Mauti

oh, no!

They played like 4 cqb's before the "fake?" cqb!

You guys cant just ban us on that way...

Ubertako,

yep S&C played and won 4 games 3 days before .iP. submitted a cb that Stripes and Scrach played the cb. We don't believe it was an error: Stripes different statements "yes we played but you can delete it". First we thought Stripes was just making sure that he doesn't get in any troubles so he told us that, but since he said he played we had to investigate: we find out there was this cb room open for only 8mins, both S&C denying the cb and later in an interview even Scrach believes he never ever cbed them!

My personal opinion: so in the end it comes down to probably Stripes who could have told Slayer to submit this cb... In the end he was working against the clan and may Slayer should think about the attitudes of some of his members because you have shown some good games in the GR Team ladder, but sometimes it needs only 1 guy to waste everything.

Regards,

Mauti

the cqb was played and i know that.

Anyway wait, ur trying to say it's MY fault why dont u just go ban me, instead of banning the whole clan .  

u should have banned me instead of the whole clan !

and i wanna ask is it cuz im in .iP. you " observe " it more than other clans?

In my personal opinion it comes down that you are probably responsible for the fake cb Stripes, however your name was kept out of the discussion because it is an .iP. issue and was submitted by .iP. Slayer.

Stripes we observe you, because you are on probation, you often try to act in greyzones, you had our final verdict that you are not allowed to be a war admin nor clanleader and we also told you we that you should be a normal member first: What do we get from you? A private message from you to one of your BL admins that he can fuck you and that he will never get you banned. Lots of clanmembers that refer to you as clanleader of .iP. this season, the so called clanleader Slayer who almost always had to ask you first before doing something, but we observed he got more independent during the season which is a good sign, nevertheless it seems .iP. is fully backing you up, they knew about your resistrictions but decided to stick with you. The clanleader is also responsible for the actions of his members and in the past we often talked with the clanleaders to take actions but due the facts posted above that wouldn't make any sense. So 1.5 wps were added to .iP. after 2 week long discussions within the *DBL team.

Regards,

Mauti

ok mauti thx for ur answers.

no more questions , from me.

Mauti that's sort of a low thing to say. If you're going to make public accusations back them up. It's low enough to give a personal opinion on a non-personal issue. But really Mauti.

Myst I backed up my statement:


In a CQB cb 4 guys play - 2 deny, 1 thinks he never cbed against S&C leaves one in the dust... just read my posts again.

Regards,

Mauti

You didn't back them with real evidence, the fact is Stripes could have just been a pawn.

I won't repost our 60 pages of discussions and endless interviews we had with some of the involved guys to gather the truth. We have witnesses Myst of what happened that's enough evidence and so the case was closed until new evidence should pop up like in a real court.

And my personal reproaches that he was still acting as clanleader are also confirmed by many chats with iPs.

Myst it is a fair decision, we have discussed all possibilites and we came to the conclusion that the .iP. vs S&C cb never happened.

The Stripes comments are just my personal conclusion based on the facts... and he is still the only one who says the cb happened. However this case is closed for the *DBL until new evidence should pop up.

Regards,

Mauti

MAuty why do u loose ur time just leave them alone!!! heuu nono plz make them talk more they make me elarious ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hahahahahaha

have fun with loosers

ps :  I won my bet, tonight i made 10 euros!!!! thx guys u did it !!!! heheheheh

I don't think you have to repost it mauti, just move a thread or two.

Does this sound familiar? If it doesn't here is the thread.

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=7136

Don't worry Stripes and iP. You'll be able to come back next season to create trouble, waste time and be the reason new rules are created.

*Lob

Myst we release soon a midseason newsletter where we will also dedicate a part to the .iP. ban with an even more detailed explanation what has lead to the decision with all pro and contra, and our thoughts.

Bye,

Mauti

Yes, which is why I now propose that Stripes be given a permanent ban from the *DAMN Battle League.  He has been a thorn in our sides as long as I can remember, and he has repeatedly shown that he can NOT follow the rules.  I think it's about time the admins vote for a ban specifically on Stripes.

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Also, making the rules even more strict doesn't help. Stripes has proven constantly that he can't follow directions. Why make it harder on the innocent players?

not beeing an admin i can say that stripes likes to play on GR like he likes to play with the rules, but does he deserve a ban i dont think so and anyway he wil be able to come back on psedo or else, so i wont say ban him, + he is not that bad, he just make some agitation in the group and he gets most of his clans suspended or ban or disbanded, anyway i like him sometime, also if i wont CB him for a longtime.

By the way benji, u see who is right and "why" and "how" so now dont ask me anymore benj, and have fun

I don't think there is anything wrong with stripes helping a newbie clan leader. Stripes has a lot of experience, admit it or no, and I have noticed how careful strpes is not be clan leader. I was sceptic at first and thought Stripes was the man behind the leader... I say stripes is the boy behind their success and the leader is the boy that got them banned.

The last time I heard about Stripes as a clan leader, he got banned. He's obviously doing something wrong if he can get banned like that.

I don't know about the stripes ban, but I have noticed that the rules just keep getting stricter. (75% relating to stripes). I don't think its fair to others to have to play under such strict rules. That's my only problem with stripes staying.

CRYPT , is the only thing you can only insult and being stupid?

Sar, I would bet the main reason stripes gets so much attention opposed to others who have been troublesome is that a certain admin spends many days jumping on any mistake he makes and posting dozens of unseen threads and public accusations just because he doesn't like him.

I don't blame the admins for finally jumping on the 2 most recent opportunities, if I had to read a new thread with a lame problem every other week I might break down eventually too.

I am doing no such thing.

Actualy.. I will say that the person you ae refering to have not started one thread about iP troubls this season.. So STFU b4 makes acusations that you know nothing about. All the threads about iP were tarted in relation to probs we have been made aware of just like we do for everyother prob with every other clan. Believe it or not I started 2 or 3 threads about iP issues .. as the issues came up... Not b/c i was after iP.. but b/c i Make a thrad about every issue that comes up so that way its documented. Then from there we investigate the issue and go by what the RULES state. Stripes was not banned from the dbl.. the iP clan was just put on suspension for this season.. they camn still play FFA's and can play next season. Now as for saying that the clan should not be put on suspension for one or two of the memeber breaking the rues.. Well remeber... the clan leader is responcible for every one in his clan.. and also the clan is a team.... its up to everyone in the clan to make sure that each person playes by the rules.. and its up the the clan leader that everyone understands the rules. On the S&C isue.... we actuly were going to rule in iP favor on this till we got new evidence showing the S&C was telling the truth that the cqb never happend.. FOr future refrance.. if you post a cb by mistake... post about it asap in the fourm.. or tell a BL admin.. dont wait til the other clan happends to see it and asks about it.

ty, Harv

Reading line one gives me great assurance as to your state of mind and makes me question your motivations more so. The threads would be nice about now.

not posting as a bl admin
My state of mind.. I like stripes.. why would i want to fuck him over.. I tried to give him advice about issues and try to help him stay out of trouble if i didnt want to see him play the season out. but rules are rules and the iP clan was suspened for not following the rules and getting over the maximum 3.0 wp.. end of story. There is nothing I can do abou tthat.. and there is nothing that iP can do about it except wait till next season (juts like I had to do i nthe past with BTs) and play next season.. but be more carful not to break the rules and get wp's

I still am yet to see evidence they earned their WP.

GS, anyone who participates in the BL should be concerned and question when probably the most active clan is banned.

Actually GS, I believe your memory is failing you. For a lesson contact me on GR.

I didn't mean immediately report to GR for briefing, I simply asked you to contact me if you wish for the lesson.

YES! Take it from somebody directly related in the event. THE CB NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED HOW THE FUCK IS THERE GOING TO BE EVIDENCE!

God these fucking annoying ass people on here.

Crypt I believe you like if you said you were still BTs.

You claiming BTs was the most active clan? *giggle* You might be the most active flamer, GS, and I bet you cherish that pride. Go back to the GG.

not posting as a bl admin

Acri BTs was one of the most active that season that GS is refering too.. Us, z][t, MP5.. just to name a few realy active clan that season.

Psst, we don't have to use that gay message anymore. ;)

Ok i didn't want to but im going to close these up. There is little if not no productive discussion and the ruling is to be quite clear not open for debate.

? We aren't going to provide the 60 or more  pages of discussions on the issues that have led up to this.
? This has absolutly nothing to do with the level of activity of a clan. Its totally irrelevant.
? You cannot prove evidence of something that has not happend - there is no evidence because it has not happend. Had evidence been provided that the battle had happend, and that other information we recieved had been different then it would have been a different matter.
? The resons why this suspension came into affect are very simple. Every time you break the rules Warning points are awarded. If you break to many rules and your warning points add up then you are suspended for the remainder of the season.
? Nobody wants to ban a clan, not me not any of the others. We all enjoy playing on the BL and the more healthy and competative the league is the better. This is not about some form of personal vendetta or some sort of planned out strategy to suspend active clans or anything of the sort.