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Being that there is a NB04 thread i thought id start the NK04 thread. This does not mean id vote for Bush, just means i think Kerry is not going to make things any better, just progressively worse.

fair enough.

I agree. At least we know Bush won't get any worse than he is doing now, but we have no clue how Kerry is going to take this "crisis".

Things can ALWAYS get worse, and they probably will.

I'm such an optimist.

How do we know that Bush wont get any worse? Even if he doesn't get any worse, the policies and actions of the Bush administration will continue to have a worsening effect on the world. If the administrations behaviour during the Iraqi war was any indicition of the future, Bush is unlikely to treat other world governments with fairness and respect. He has also disregarded environmental protocols which could have helped to rectify the problems of the past. While it is possible he won't actually do anything more, the actions that he has already taken will continue to present growing problems for the U.S and for the world as a whole.

I think as long as the US has a electoral system that limits us to two parties, any candidate will worsen the country. However, I think it is exceedingly obvious that Bush will make things more worse than Kerry will.

Honestly, I'm thinking long and hard about emmigrating either way.

Most of the stuff Bush is doing isn't affecting me at all, so maybe I'm biased against that. But I just don't think he is going to do any worse.

OBVIOUS? Can you read the fucking future?! Cause if u can id love to see you predict some more stuff. There are two quotes that relate to this election. The first being "Whoever wins, We Lose" the quote from Alien Vs Predator. The second, is one i believe is true, The devil we know is better then the devil we dont know. You know what im talking about and you people that hate bush believe it will get worse. I myself do not agree with the way we went about taking down terrorism, but at least he did SOMETHING rather then  Kerry who has allready stated he plans to remove troops from Iraq. All i can say is if Kerry becomes president, i might move to Canada for fear of my life...terrorism will no longer be 45000 miles away but right on our asses.

But it is. You pay more for things with less money everyday. If you were to go abroad you wouldnt be treated as well. the air you breathe is a little less clean. your personal freedoms are curtailed etc ect etc.

rebel, quite a lot of this terrorism started because certain people were unhappy that the us had troops in a certain state. i think that the us should defend itself, and that it has a responsibility to rebuild iraq, but i think that us troops should be at home, defending us, not out in the world.


(sry for the double post, im a douche)

Top Ten Reasons to Vote for Bush

10. The 17 percent productivity growth from the first quarter of 2000 to the first quarter of 2004 stands head and shoulders above the growth rate for any comparable period. In the first 13 quarters of the Bush Administration, the basic determinant of our standard of living increased by almost as much as during the entire 32 quarters of the Clinton Administration.

9. The USA Patriot Act brought down the artificial wall separating law enforcement and intelligence officers and allowed them to talk to each other as they work to prevent future attacks.

8. If the Indian tribes sue to get back the land you're living on, which candidate do you want in control?

7. What's more important, knowing how to pronounce "nuclear bombs" or knowing who to drop 'em on?

6. He can't be as dumb as everyone says.

5. He's the only candidate who stands for the principles that originally made this country great - like slavery and denying the vote to women.

4. If Bush had been President, we never would have gotten involved in Vietnam. Especially if he could have been President and still have been "draft age".

3. Big deal, Kerry got the Purple Hearts and Silver Stars. Bush got the Yellow Moons and Green Clovers.

2. Are you a man or not? Our guy - named after a beer. Their guy - named after a character on Sex in the City.

1. Actually, there's no reason to vote for him if you live in Florida. You don't have to. We got that shit under control.

Funny thing is.. Everyone is against bush and "his war". But most peeps forget that clinton did the same thing.. just hid it from it being a big deal. Bush/Iraq, Clinton/Bosnia. Its not only bushes falt that the world looks bad on the USA... It started b4 him. I would rather keep bush in then elect a pussy like kerry.

i think you meant "than" and not "then". Either way, its funny and i'm gonna respond to that with a pic:

(http://www.electoral-vote.com/cartoons/swift-boat.gif)

I think kerry was a pussy in vietan too. Now My grandfather. He was a vietan hero... But you dont see hm trying to use that to run for prez.In vietan My grandfather was a MP/Dog Trainer. His MP Dog woke him up one night. He got up and started checking around the barricks. Then a Vietnamees grnaded ladded at his feet. He was able topick it up and throw it our of the barricks B5 it went off and killled  or hurt alot of guys sleeping in there. Unlike kerry who got a purple hart from not being able to throw his own grenade.. let alone throw one of the enimies nades back at them.

Okay harvy, all of that(kerry's record) is up for debate. Not only that but there are proven links that connect the swift boat vets for truth to people connected to the bush administration. Plus, no one is saying that Kerry is the best war hero out there, obviously there were guys who did so much more shit in "vietan"(hmm, not really sure where that is but.....), but compare Kerry's record of bravery and service in Vietnam to Bush's war record(if you can't find any record it means it didnt happen) kerry comes out looking like fucking rambo.

Any man who stepped foot in that country during the war deserves respect.

Even it it was for a small amount of time...errrr....

even if that man earned three purple stars, a bronze star and a silver star

It was not the switft boat vets i heard about him getting hurt from his own nade.. Thats been known for alog time b4 they said anything about it.

But personaly.. I dont this that Kerry is the better person just b/c he was in vietnam war. What matters to me is what he is like now.. And I feel he is will make a very bad leader for the usa.

Rebel, we know Kerry, he hasn't been no where for the past 20 years...he's been in the Senate voting on bills. Despite what it seems when Rove and Co spin it, his Senate record is strong and he won praise from many people on both sides of the aisle prior to the campaign when all bipartisanship goes to shit. I know very well what type of policies Kerry will push for, and while I do not support all of them, I know the philosophy behind it is less harmful than Bush's.

It is because I've seen Kerry in action in the Senate and because I've seen Bush in action as President and Governor...seen their records, that I can say it is exceedingly obvious. No seeing the future necessary.

You guys keep acting like i LIKE bush. I DONT! But i damn well support the war in Iraq. I think there was a better way to go about it, but its the fact that he will keep troops there that makes me kinda like him.

http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/dsbush.html (http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/dsbush.html)  Thanks to SheiX for Link.

i like when he says "the world is safer now". What part of the World exactly is he referring to ? Afganistan... nah. Iraq... nah..... The Midddle east.... are you kiddin me ! Well, i gotta admit the US is safer if you stay inside its borders...

Rebel, do you think Kerry will pull the troops out of Iraq? I've seen no great indication of that. On the other hand, I think the Iraqis could manage if we pulled out. I think it is almost a racist thought to say Iraq would break out into chaos without us, at least the way some people talk about Iraqis. They are skilled and educated people. If we were gone, there would be no tolerance for terrorism because there would be no sympathy for their cause like there is now.

I too think a war in Iraq could have been ok it would have to have been handled vastly different. I just don't think it was the right time or the right way. I really would have wanted to make sure Afghanistan was stable before moving to any other focus by choice.

Uhh Bondo...just the other day i heard him say it on a commercial. One of those damned political commercials that floods the airwaves with a bunch of BS i dont want to hear for either candidate. He said "If i become president ill fight to pull troops out of the middle east". That pissed me off, plain and simple.

Are you of voting age?

good. leave. then i can enjoy my life, without asshole rebulicans like YOU around destroying the world, you ignorant FUCK! [/flame][/rant]

Man...you can really spell well. Thats what makes this country great. People that cant type and love to call other people ignorant assholes can say anything they want. So what im republican, your democratic...and every democrat in our history has fucked this country up.

wow. you generalize really well. if anything, a rampent generalization is a much worse mistake than a simple spelling error.

I dont think either one would make a particularly good leader, but I think Bush would do worse than Kerry...
Mabye we should all vote for Nader =D   ???

give that dog a medal!