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Title: White America
Post by: c| Spetsnaz. on September 06, 2004, 10:43:11 pm
I thought this was a pretty tight video...http://www.gnn.tv/white_america/ (http://www.gnn.tv/white_america/)


Title: Re:White America
Post by: *DAMN Bondo on September 06, 2004, 11:20:54 pm
I'm gaining more respect for Eminem of late. No arguing his ability, but he seems to have grown out of the phase where he went for seemingly random homophobia and mysogyny and now has put his talent to meaningful not vacantly offensive material. Basically now that he has the fame he doesn't have to promote himself through shock, he can work outside the "what will sell" incentive.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 06, 2004, 11:39:14 pm
Ive got pretty much every Eminem song. Some people say "Fuck Rap" and "Fuck Eminem" and call him different names but what they dont understand is that his lyrics mean something. My brother who is dead Punk and Rock likes Eminem just cause his lyrics  mean something rather then just the usual Fuck the cops lyrics. If you are one of those guys that thinks Eminem is just another wigger i think you should DL a song or two and listen closely to what he has to say. You may be suprised.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: bronto on September 07, 2004, 12:34:12 am
good shit. i can still only stand the music in small doses, but he's definately putting out a good, true message nowadays. i think it's pretty hilarious that this whole time he's been "shocking the nation", all it's been is truth. i especially like it in the end when you see the pig faced president on puppet strings and jets dropping tvs on us.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: *DAMN SK on September 07, 2004, 04:52:58 am
Sup bondo, long time no see

fuck eminem


Title: Re:White America
Post by: Supernatural Pie on September 07, 2004, 06:54:30 am
If you are one of those guys that thinks Eminem is just another wigger

I am.

i think you should DL a song or two and listen closely to what he has to say.

I did.

You may be suprised.

I was.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: BFG on September 07, 2004, 01:19:55 pm
heh heh... like the vid :)

"Fuck u Mr United states of Embarrassment"  

oh found this on there as well:

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Hijacking Catastrophe
A new video from the Media Education Foundation examines how the Bush administration uses the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to manipulate Americans. Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire places the last three years of White House deceptions in a global context, asking questions seldom posed by mainstream corporate media. The hour-long documentary features nearly twenty political observers, including Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, former Chief UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter, former Pentagon analyst Daniel Ellsberg, Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Jody Williams, international activist Vandana Shiva, journalism academic Robert Jensen, and musician Michael Franti. "By helping us understand how fear is being actively cultivated and manipulated by the current administration, Hijacking Catastrophe stands to become an explosive and empowering information weapon in this decisive year in U.S. history," writes Naomi Klein, author of No Logo.

Sounds like a good read!


Title: Re:White America
Post by: Supernatural Pie on September 07, 2004, 05:51:24 pm
I just watched it again.

That's some powerful shit... and normally I can't listen to 10 seconds of rap.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 07, 2004, 06:01:58 pm
The word rap is thrown around. Some "rap" is different then others. Tupac and Eminem are two rappers that I have found to have lyrics that actually mean something. Alot of other rapper's lyrics dont mean anything and its just about the regular rap topics of bitches, weed, and hos. Although these songs dont appeal to me, ones that have good, solid beats with bass that my car will play loud and proud, do. All im saying is that if you think Eminem is just another stereotypical rapper, you are completely wrong. If you dont believe DL songs and listen to them, try "Sing for the Moment". Dont post here thing like SK has "Fuck Eminem" if u havent even listened to more then 1 song. Give the man some credit FFS.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: BFG on September 07, 2004, 06:41:15 pm
U got to give credit where credit is due. - Id be the first to put my hands in the air and say im not exactly a fan of 'rap' - but then again i have a lot of it (more old stuff) and a good chunk of Eminems stuff and well...the vocals are pretty good - It was interesting to read that reaction a parent of one of the kids shot in the colombine shootings had to say about him after seeing that video... Its amazing how people seem so determined to protect the image of the 'american way of life' (or somthing!) and that to tell a version of events that rubs with that ideology is deemed so dangerous.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: *DAMN Bondo on September 07, 2004, 10:06:17 pm
The first Eminem song that really broke through my anti-Eminem mindset was Lose Yourself. I've liked Sing For The Moment, My Band, and this one as well. They have various levels of seriousness (My Band being kind of a joke song, but brilliant in doing so) and levels of depth, but they combine good musical quality with engaging themes...and don't come off as bigoted or ignorant like some of his older stuff and a lot of a lot of rappers' stuff.

With that said, I don't own any Eminem stuff.

To show that Rap is a very diverse genre, Skee-Lo is certainly in the Rap genre and I think he has one swear word on the entire CD. His CD, which I do own, is enjoyable but he isn't an incredible talent to the level Eminem is.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: BFG on September 07, 2004, 10:11:28 pm
... not many artists are willing to take the piss out of themselves, "my band was quite somthing!"

.. dunno about "loose yourself" - some of it can be a bit "me me me me" but hey whatever your into! :)


Title: Re:White America
Post by: *NADS Capt. Anarchy on September 07, 2004, 11:10:18 pm
Hmm... I remember seeing this some time ago. Truth be told, I like his stuff, but his voice bites at my ears.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 08, 2004, 12:59:44 am
Half those kids that sing Punk songs have no talent....its just their girl leavin them and their voice gets all high and they cry......poor punk kids.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: BFG on September 08, 2004, 01:24:35 am
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Half those kids that sing Punk songs have no talent....its just their girl leavin them and their voice gets all high and they cry......poor punk kids.

Oh yes thats comedy - teenage angst with a bit of soft drugs ect... suddenly the world dosn't understand them and they need to dye their hair yellow "to make a statment of their individuality"... freaking hell



Title: Re:White America
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 08, 2004, 01:31:44 am
amen to that BFG....


Title: Re:White America
Post by: KoS Ultimo on September 08, 2004, 01:51:26 am
the worst is kids who call themselves emo. WTF!

and for christs sake rebel if you wanted a l33t avatar like mine you could of just asked, yours looks like a deformed little brother of mine.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: bronto on September 08, 2004, 10:12:09 pm
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Half those kids that sing Punk songs have no talent....its just their girl leavin them and their voice gets all high and they cry......poor punk kids.

Oh yes thats comedy - teenage angst with a bit of soft drugs ect... suddenly the world dosn't understand them and they need to dye their hair yellow "to make a statment of their individuality"... freaking hell

i feel all this. i fucking can't stand those little bitch kids. but the soft drugs thing (i am on LI so i'm surrounded by these motherfuxxors) is actually rarely true. they call themselves straight-edge and they refuse to do anything at all. just another trend. you don't even know how many of these nerds i'm surrounded by. they swarm the streets with their dyed black, flat iron hair, and small tee shirts featuring crap suck bands that are meant to show off your muscles, but instead are flashing pale white twigs. and the tight jeans...don't even get me started. must kill.


Title: Re:White America
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 09, 2004, 02:26:52 am
If you kill, I will help


Title: Re:White America
Post by: BFG on September 09, 2004, 12:08:37 pm
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they swarm the streets with their dyed black, flat iron hair

Thats exactly it, little bastards. And they look like any minute the sky is going to fall on their damn heads and crush them to death. Most of them seem in capable of washing or stringing more than a few grunts together in a sentance. All i get is this overwhelming urge to grab a baseball bat and knock some sense into them. EIther that or give them to the "Queer eye for the straight guy" makeover guys to dress them up in frilly pink clothes and give them some good old pyschological damage that will scar them for life  ;D ;)


Title: Re:White America
Post by: bronto on September 10, 2004, 10:11:41 pm
pink frills is the next trend on their list, i can feel it. every time you see a picture of an emo, they never look directly at the person taking the picture, they always roll their eyes towards something else, usually towards the sky, as if they are very special.