*DAMN R6 Forum

Please let me know what you feel and think about the new *DBL  ;D

Yours,

Mauti

Finally! ;D (though I am not Mauti's target audience)

[McDonalds] I love it! [/McDonalds] :D

Well done Mauti! :D


ps... people won't be able to register their clans on the new leagues yet

Nice work -



so BFG all clans is deleted from DBL now?

No its simply that clan leaders will not be able to add their clans to the current game leages yet, well at least u couldn't 45mins ago

Registering works now!!!!

Well the sheep makes it all alot simpler, I think....

Makes it a lot simpler on scoring... Good system I think. It also allows clans that do not cb as much to still have a chance of winning by going into battles for more sheep. Also this system allows for grudge matches between clans(should it ever arrise) where both clans could bet all their sheep. Loser is out for the season...winner walks away with a whole lot bigger of a flock.

*BAH**BAH*BLACK*SHEEP*
Ein

It all looks very cool mauti.

I was just about to say the same Ein. it could happen that two clans that are far away from the finals, would play all their sheeps in one cb, the winner takes it all, and goes to the finals.
But i doubt that it will happen.

True... although if they are a long way of the finals they probably wont have that many sheep to bet on - and therefore the chances of them being able to jump such a large distance are decreased. - hopfully it will just keep the pressure on the leaders to keep going, even when they are ahead!

so u need a ss of the agreement, about how many sheeps ur guessing?

I think we're mostly presuming that people are mature enough to agree on the number of sheep they are gambling / taking to market, and that they will stick by this without making a fuss.  Of course SS can always be usefull if an issue arrises however.

ok thx, just wanted to be sure.

I really like the idea of giving the B string guys a chance to CB and learn the ropes!
But yeah this is totally new and totally unexpected (gambling over sheep, what would my mother thing) anyway looks great Mauti.

P.S. being from Iowa I wanna see some pig and cow representation

:MoD:DarK.

if two clans have, lets say they each have 80 sheep, and they decide to bet all 80 sheep, the winner will have 160 sheep, that should be more than enough to be in top 8.
Imagine how u would feel if you were placed 8, and two hours before deadline, some noob clan, that was placed 14th suddenly moves ahead of you, i would be pissed.
It could easely end up with the clan being so pissed on the system, that it would leave the league for good.

the only problem i see in this is the fact that noob clans never have to cb to good clans. they can just keep cbin the noob clans and make it into the finals no problem, which in my opinion, is just wrong. the finals are ment for the best clans in the league. not the noobs who just cheat there way around the system.

Yep this could happen. - Well same happened in the past with the other system if in the last second an average clan has beaten a top ranked clan, often the lower ranked clan could come into the finals. At least when 6 clans made it into the finals. Well you have to fight for your place. 80 sheep should be doable.  Don't forget you and your clan decide how you proceed in the season. It's like monopoly, you can spend all your money on one street and hope someone gets there or you split your risk. It's not the system anymore that decides you all have the same possibilities. You rule how the system works and not the other way round and last but not least don't paint the devil on the wall even before the season started ;)

It's a game and I think it will be damn fun, all clans discussing about sheep. Muahahaha.

Bye,

Mauti

there is still a limit on how many times clans can play each other right?
season hasnt started u can still change rules remember if there isnt

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quoting from the rules:

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For all competition ladders - there is still a limit of 6 times you can play one opponent.

Hooks, your argument would also count against the increasing number of clans that make it into the finals now. Noob clans won't take away spots from the good ones, but you are right, and that was also made with purpose, every clan independent from skill has a chance to make it into the finals now, and I think that's more a benefit, because now every clan is motivated to cb a lot and you can succeed and make it at least under the top 8. In the finals skills decide but for the main season everyone is allowed to have fun and at least try it and risk your sheep.

The system goes a complete different way than all previous ones. It's about gaming, just gaming and because the system is so simple everyone can use it with the same chances. For the main season, where the sheep are used it isn't that skill orientated anymore that's right, the sheep should just encourage everyone to play against each other and even if the cb itself wasn't that fun due some problems you can say yourself damn I lost 8 sheep so what!? You get my point and idea behind it? =D

Bye,

Mauti

August 14, 2004:

Description: MP5 Chat! Woohoo! Yay! Um... Huzzah?

<< -MP5-Typhy.Kerry joined the room >>
<< -MP5-Maniac joined the room >>
<< -MPt- Mysterio joined the room >>
???useless stuff???
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: (me... I was irritated at not know what sheep was) Ok typhy
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: I had a great idea
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: it hit me
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: while i was losing 50,000
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: in poker
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: what if each clan started off with a certain amount of points
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: and you gamble points for each cb you play
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: you can gamble as many or as few
-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: but both clans in the cb must agree
-MP5- Mysterio: typhy sucks at poker
-MP5- Mysterio: I robbed him fo hsi monney
-MP5- Mysterio: then a noob got into my game and robbed us both



Private message with -MP5-Typhy.Kerry
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: ok
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Shut the fuck up
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Don't say another word
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Or I'll rip your balls off
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: omfg
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: AM I RIGHT!?
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: HOLY SHIT NO FUCKING WAY
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: What are you talking about?
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: did I figure out sheep...
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: o_O
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: gasp
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: YOU GAMBLE YOUR SHEEP
[21:49]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Snipe
[21:49]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Shut the FUCK UP
[21:50]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: holy crap dude
[21:50]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: I DID figure it out
[21:50]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: didn't i
[21:50]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: holy crap
[21:50]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: now you have to tell me if I guessed it
[21:51]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Look, god damnit
[21:51]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Who the fuck told you?
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: NO ONE!!!
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: I swear to god
[21:51]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: I'm going to fucking kill someone.
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: it was just a weird idea I had
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: dude I swear to god
[21:51]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: Fuck off, I don't believe you
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: dude
[21:51]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: You say a word of this in public, and I will rip your balls off
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: I won't say a thing... but seriously
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: NO ONE SAID A WORD TO ME
[21:51]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: lmfao
[21:52]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: this is hilarious
[21:52]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: It was something that just came to me
[21:52]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: as I was betting in poker
[21:52]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: and i was like... shit... what if we could bet sheep
[21:52]-MP5-Fuck Sheep-a2-: and I was just fucking around when I told you that
Typhy's disbelief continues for 7 minutes, during which time I revert my name back to normal
[21:59]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: BS!
[21:59]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: YOU WHORE
[21:59]-MP5-SNiPE-a2-: lol
[21:59]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: YOU CHEATING WHORE
[21:59]-MP5-SNiPE-a2-: I figured out sheep
[21:59]-MP5-Typhy.Kerry: KEEP IT QUIET!
[21:59]-MP5-SNiPE-a2-: I'm amazing

And that is the story of how I learned of the Sheep. I hope you have enjoyed this "Get to know the dark side of Typhy" session, and I hope he won't be pissed at me for posting this, but alas, we'll find out when he comes home from his first day of school today!  :)

Between great and awesome  :)

had to let this idea sink in a bit.  Seems like this season is gonna be fresh and alot of fun! nice and original m8

*bows as he coughs*

Sounds like over the course of a 60 day season we will still get the top clans into finals.  I wouldn't worry about people fucking with the points system anymore then they have been the last 3-4 seasons.  It's gonna happen regardless.....

But the idea of doing the finals all on a set day with set times and only one loss is what really intrigues me.  Glad to see the DBL taking suggestions from members (and former members) and introducing it into the system.  That sounds awesome.

Well done Mauti & company

Looks good and clean. Well done, but it doesn't look like the RvS ladder has been reset yet going into the new season.

Excellant work Mauti and Elandrion.  I like the new concept and design.  This season will be awesome.


EDIT: the new DBL page seems to be loading slowly for me.  I am using the latest version of Safari(v.1.2.3) and on a fast cable connection.  Also, Mauti if you need any help, give me a holler! :D

Ok firstly I'm demoting the war admins in my clan that are compulsive gamblers -I can just see me logging in one day to find we're sheepless!!  >:( hehe But overall, I like this new look and I'm sure with all these changes, it's gonna be an exciting season!

 all power to the animals!! ;D

I'm going to rip your balls off. ;)

After seeing how Myst plays poker, I think I'll have to handle the sheep bets for MP5. . .

Well, looks good, though i dont think i like the idea of having BFG around our sheep...he is a farmer after all(a little)...and farmers shag sheep...we know thats.....WAIT..SHADE LIVES ON A FARM!!!!


(dont know who in mod will be able to take care of the sheep without them trying to have a go with the sheep)

but still...looks good.

* Goes to get the shotgun *

Well done again, it'l be interesting to see how this goes.

All your sheep are belong to us (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/halodude101@hotmail.com//ALL.jpg)

Ban Civic ! Look at it , what a shame

http//civic.wasarrested.com/sheep (http://http//civic.wasarrested.com/sheep)

LOL Dark... that pic fits so perfect for this season. ;D

and rat... lol, wtf? i know what it is but... that link doesn't even work. you forgot the ":" after http. :-P

No no NO!!!! The website will have a built-in sheep betting function, such a thing cannot be left to the honesty of greedy sheep-hoarders. This way, no one can back out on their word. Before your cb, you enter the sheep you and your opponent are betting, and afterward you enter the winner.

oh on that way thx u very much Ara, this will be awesome gl all in season 9 and most of all hf

BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

All the finals games on one weekend will fail terribly. WORST CHOICE EVER.

http://civic.wasarrested.com/sheep (http://civic.wasarrested.com/sheep)

lmfao - anyway i wanna know..... why the sheep?

why not the dog? the cat or whatever?

Because sheep are sheep.

Cause sheep are nice and fluffy. *zips his pants up*

Ehm Aramarth what you say was how we wanted to do it first but it wasn't realizable to integrate this way into the excisting script. So make your bets, and to have a proof just make a screenshot. After the game you submit your scores as you did in the past. The only difference is that you now also enter the bet sheep.

bye,

Mauti

mb you can make a seperate thread where ppl can type down their bets.
This way they can't change it, because it will be added and the rest of the community can see how ppl loose their sheep and gain their sheep.  ;D
Who are the biggest gamblers and who are the ...

Well to see who is the biggest gambler,... just use the Matchlist and increase the number of last done cbs and you will see how many sheep each clan has lost and won -> have bet.

Bye,

Mauti

Initial reaction - Dope!


 :)



King

Ya couldn't do WHAT??? Your script... the whole... aw sonofa... >:( Do you guys KNOW code or do you need the CS-major-in-training to hold your hand?!??</rant>

I sure like the idea of getting the not so active clans to become more involved, and i know sometimes we've used some of your example excuses, I also like the idea of betting on how we think our outcome will be.... Maybe a ss  of the bet should be manditory, i think it will eliminate that as a problem {brought up in earlier posts} there is still time to make it a rule. The less BS the better right.

But who would it be mandatory to send the ss to? I doubt any of the admins would want to have to go through the trouble of getting an email from every cb played all season. An Im not possitive but am pretty sure that Mauti doesnt want them either. I do like the idea of having a message board to place the bets at. Make it mandatory for each clan to place a bet in the folder where they list who they are cbing and how much they are wagering on the cb. That way the bet is in writing and if they submit the battle with less of a bet, it can be easily proven without a screenshot that they actually wagered another number than what they entered while posting the cb.

Just a suggestion. Great job on the new scoring system guys and all of your hard work
Ein.

You would only have to send your screenshot if it comes to an issue - same with the message board, it would be only use if it comes to a discussion about it how many sheep each clan bet. It would a kind of safety measure that backup's your claims.

Bye,

Mauti

ein if u dont trust other clan then take an ss of their agreement, and if they are not willing to say that they did bet some sheeps, then u got ur ss to proof that they did.

I#ll post some tips how to do it the best way in the *DBL main news on sunday.

bye,

Mauti

The biggest news is the ALL NEW system that will be the core of this seasons play. The new season is based on, you guessed it, SHEEP! Each clan starts with 100 sheep. At the end of the main season, the clan with the most sheep wins the regular season. If your clan loses all its sheep, you are done for the season. Now, you are probably saying, "Well how does my clan GET more sheep?" Well, before warring, both clans decide how many sheep they will bet. The teams DO NOT have to bet the same amount as this will attract clans with little sheep to war the good clans if the clans offer ALOT of sheep if they were to lose. You can bet any number of sheep from 1-Everything. Lets say you want your B squad to get some warring time in, but your not sure if they will win. Just bet one sheep and let em play! Although it sounds genious, betting 1 sheep per match will not move you up the ladder rapidly. Lets say that you like to war with certain members on, your "starting line up". Before this system people wouldnt war unless they were all on. Now if your starters arent on you can still war, you just dont bet alot of sheep.

 - i dont get this, so well... how is the finals going to be playen then?

Allow me to re say this:

The one weekend finals will ruin everyone. One conflict the whole season goes down the drain.

Stripes,

Rebel only posted about the main season, he refered to it as regular season. Finals will be played as in my post: best 8 clans in the competition ladders play in the finals. There you play in a knock out system.

Myst, - well now you know the weekends 60days in advance and can arrange everything, here are some pro and contra I pointed out when we the BL admins discussed the super finals:

Finals as played until and including season VIII:

Pro:

.) you have plenty of time, organising and planning your cb.
.) you are only forced to play 1 cb/ day
.) free sheduling

Cons:

.) Extensions if one round last longer than 2 cbs
.) Although all clans have plenty of time to organise everything, there were always troubles to get two clans playing one round - in the past often rounds were skipped, or clans were suspended
.) You need to play at least on 4 days within 2 weeks if you play only 1 cb/day
.) Clans that didn't make it aren't much interested in the outcome of the finals, especially when the finals get extended you can easily lose the overview what's going on.
.) You can't really predict? if their will be an extension and that you may have to play another weekend

 Super Finals (1weekend/game)

Pro:

.) You only have to play on one weekend/ladder
.) All admins are online and can immediate assist and solve issues
.) All clans are online and have probably more players online -> chance for bigger cbs is higher
.) No extensions
.) Winners will be announced at the same day in the BL news.
.) attracts more people to the BL if they see one big event on GameRanger - Finals are more exciting
.) No more sheduling and argueing with the other clan when you will play
.) 8 finalists
.) Exact Final day will be known even before the start of the season, so you can plan in advance

Cons:

.) The possibility that you have to play up to 7 1/2 hours
.) Not all guys will be able to play on both/any days of the final weekend


Hope that makes our decision why we think the new final setup is superior more transparent.

Bye,

Mauti

Cramming it all one one day is just asking for trouble. Most of your pros could also be cons:

.) You only have to play on one weekend/ladder
- One pro I agree with

.) All admins are online and can immediate assist and solve issues
- Wishful thinking

.) All clans are online and have probably more players online -> chance for bigger cbs is higher
- Unless of course this weekend just doesn't work out for people.

.) No extensions
- Conflict results in admin debate, takes up lots of time. Loot at day one of BTs vs MP5, they didn't know the rules and the admins didn't, so it took a day and a half to work it out.

.) Winners will be announced at the same day in the BL news.
- How unexpected....

.) attracts more people to the BL if they see one big event on GameRanger - Finals are more exciting
- Could also turn people away due to bad scheduling, witnessing the admins scurrying around to find answers and arguing about solutions.

.) No more sheduling and argueing with the other clan when you will play
- Agreed, assuming the other clan is on.

.) 8 finalists
- That is insane. If we couldn't do what was it 4? In a week, how can you expect us to do 8 in a weekend.

.) Exact Final day will be known even before the start of the season, so you can plan in advance
- Again not unique.

Difference is that you only have to play 1 cb/per round and not up to 3 as before.

Of course you can see it as you see it right now, but if you are really interested in getting the finals played and be part of it, the new setup gives you much better opportunities in advance to arrange everything with your shedule. You know now that you will play on 13 and eventually also 14th november your finals, you can already set everything yet so you have time to play on these days.

Bye,

Mauti

I hope a new clan is formed tomorrow and that clan wins the season. Yup.

Is that some kinda coded message acri?!

ahhh ok

-clear enough now thanks mauti.-

I always speak in code.