Title: Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: "Sixhits" on June 26, 2004, 12:20:17 am http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9004298.htm (http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9004298.htm)
>>> Western diplomats and local officials in the Middle East say Iran, widely considered a supporter of international terrorism that's trying to develop nuclear weapons, is emerging as the unintended winner of Bush's war on terrorism. <<< and >>> The logic of Iran's ascendance is simple. Iran sat back as the United States launched expensive wars and defeated Iranian enemies on two of its borders, in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran's population is predominantly Shiite Muslim, and with Iraq's Shiite majority certain to dominate any new Iraqi government, the two nations will share cultural and religious ties that will likely bringing the formerly warring neighbors closer. Senior U.S. officials in Washington fear that a Shiite uprising in Iraq could trigger unrest in neighboring Kuwait, where Shiites are 30 percent of the population; in Bahrain, which is 70 percent Shiite, and in the oil-rich eastern province of Saudi Arabia, where Shiites are a narrow majority. Iranians, who succeeded in exporting their Islamic revolution to Shiite parts of Lebanon after Israel invaded that country in 1982, believe they've now played their cards well as America stumbled into a guerrilla war in Iraq. "Two factors have made our position stronger. First is the American attitude, the American behavior. They came to Iraq under the slogan of human rights and democracy, but unfortunately, the Americans could not prove they are sincere in what they are saying," said Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi. "The second was our behavior in Iraq was very clear ... we are not looking for hegemony." <<< Oops. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: KoS.Rebel on June 26, 2004, 04:24:02 am Damn....if Kerry happens to win the election, i guess ill become like you and bash Kerry all day. Dont you have anything better to do? Oh wait....you dont.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 26, 2004, 04:58:48 am Damn....if Kerry happens to win the election, i guess ill become like you and bash Kerry all day. Dont you have anything better to do? Oh wait....you dont. OUCH! ;) Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: alaric on June 26, 2004, 06:58:04 am Damn....if Kerry happens to win the election, i guess ill become like you and bash Kerry all day. Dont you have anything better to do? Oh wait....you dont. You know it's funny. I have yet to see any member of this forum who defends Bush actually come out and refute any of the points anybody's made against him. All I ever see are personal attacks and emotional appeals. Either put up a decent argument or shut up and save us the trouble of reading your spam. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BFG on June 26, 2004, 12:17:23 pm * Copy what Alaric said *
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: Croosch on June 26, 2004, 04:54:01 pm I love it how every news post on here turns into a political battle ;D
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 26, 2004, 06:19:20 pm It would be nicer if the poster would just sum it up. Then I'd me more likely to read it instead of the first 4 posts to get a picture of what's going on.
But Alaric, so true. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: The Golden Shark on June 26, 2004, 07:26:16 pm Damn....if Kerry happens to win the election, i guess ill become like you and bash Kerry all day. Dont you have anything better to do? Oh wait....you dont. Hey rebel when you say shit like this it just makes you sound like a dumb child. STFU and leave your non-constructive comments to yourself.Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: bronto on June 26, 2004, 09:16:11 pm yeah, if i were to assume that every conservative were like the ones on this board, i would say they basically know nothing of their own countries history, the politics they blindly follow, and really can't put up an argument for shit due to their lack of knowledge. of course that would just be from a stereotypical point of view, but one often wonders...
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 26, 2004, 09:27:16 pm The fact is that there must be some smart conservatives out there. We just haven't found them yet.
(sorry Rebs ;) ) (HAHAHAHA! GS) Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: "Sixhits" on June 27, 2004, 02:25:10 am Damn....if Kerry happens to win the election, i guess ill become like you and bash Kerry all day. Dont you have anything better to do? Oh wait....you dont. I look forward to the next daring dagger of wit you'll toss my way. I love variance in conservative and con-appologist come backs to informed criticism: they all boil down to "why are you so negative, you fucking fuck fucker" or "don't you have something better to do (than stand up for you rights, your country, and a better world?)" You should read some of the Founding Father's and the shit they wrote. I mean, these guys wrote so much. They did so cause they had something to say. I have something to say, and really enjoy saying it. And I enjoy what others have to say as well. So, again, I look forward to your next rash of meaningless commentary. :-P Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: Mr. Lothario on June 27, 2004, 03:05:18 am Sixhits, that reminded me of a quote, so I dug it up.
"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence." -- Charles Austin Beard Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: KoS.Rebel on June 27, 2004, 03:34:10 am For all those who hate i just have one statement to make. I hate those people who dont vote FOR someone they vote AGAINST someone. Yall dont want Kerry u just dont want Bush. I have np with that i just think someone like Colin Powell could do a better job. Kerry is a fuckin loser so shit....go Colin Powell?
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: Cossack on June 27, 2004, 06:44:48 am We will not go for Colin Powell because he is not running.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 27, 2004, 08:01:40 am Rebel, You vote for the better of the two. Since Bush is retarded they vote for Kerry.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on June 27, 2004, 11:32:43 am Tell you the truth.. I'm not going to vote for either... I hope there are some decent independents running
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 27, 2004, 04:53:30 pm Tell you the truth.. I'm not going to vote for either... I hope there are some decent independents running w00t! Michael Savage for President! An Independant Conservative for an Independant America!!![/size] Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 27, 2004, 05:05:41 pm Tell you the truth.. I'm not going to vote for either... I hope there are some decent independents running w00t! Michael Savage for President! An Independant Conservative for and Independant America!!![/size] I think you said that already... maybe thrice so far. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 27, 2004, 05:23:51 pm I think you said that already... maybe thrice so far. Yes, that was the 2nd time I posted that.[/size] Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 27, 2004, 07:29:04 pm I think you said that already... maybe thrice so far. Yes, that was the 2nd time I posted that.[/size] AHAHAHAH! I knew it. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: c| Spetsnaz. on June 27, 2004, 11:56:30 pm Go see Fahrenheit 9/11. http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/foolbush.mov (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/foolbush.mov)
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 28, 2004, 12:19:18 am Moore may be crazy and a lier, but he makes a point. We already get lies every day through our media. So why not hear the opposite side.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BFG on June 28, 2004, 05:53:47 pm ..... I wonder.... Has he ever realised how freaking stupid he really is?
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 28, 2004, 10:22:47 pm Who Mr. BFG.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 28, 2004, 10:35:21 pm Yeah, go see the stupid movie. Its box office opening weekend is the 222nd Biggest Opening for a weekend in the history of movie-making. lol....222nd? You call that a great movie? Hell, "Starsky & Hutch" had a bigger box office opening than this movie. Yet all I see in all the Box Office sites is how this movie broke all these records. It broke records for a DOCUMENTARY. Whoop de doo. I, however, will not be wasting my money.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: seth on June 28, 2004, 10:49:21 pm Its box office opening weekend is the 222nd Biggest Opening for a weekend in the history of movie-making. lol....222nd? Starsky and Hutch did open in 3185 theaters, averaging 8.8K$ per theater. Michael's moore new documentary opened in 868 theaters, averaging 25 k$ per theater. hum.... wich one was the most popular ??? even GS can answer that now. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 28, 2004, 11:11:47 pm Its box office opening weekend is the 222nd Biggest Opening for a weekend in the history of movie-making. lol....222nd? Starsky and Hutch did open in 3185 theaters, averaging 8.8K$ per theater.Michael's moore new documentary opened in 868 theaters, averaging 25 k$ per theater. hum.... wich one was the most popular ??? even GS can answer that now. Still wrong....if it was so popular, it would have been shown on over 3,000 theaters. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: Croosch on June 29, 2004, 12:05:23 am But it was popular in the 868 theaters it showed up in. And it is a documentary, so you can't really compare it to the hollywood Starsky and Hutch. That's a horrible comparison
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: "Sixhits" on June 29, 2004, 01:01:40 am Yeah, go see the stupid movie. Its box office opening weekend is the 222nd Biggest Opening for a weekend in the history of movie-making. lol....222nd? You call that a great movie? Hell, "Starsky & Hutch" had a bigger box office opening than this movie. Yet all I see in all the Box Office sites is how this movie broke all these records. It broke records for a DOCUMENTARY. Whoop de doo. I, however, will not be wasting my money. F 9/11 is the most successful documentry ever -- and that's just after opening weekend! Additionally, it cost $6 million to make. So, it's profitablity is very high. It recooped it's cost and turned a profit in one day, and that with only the 800 or so odd theaters it was in. Starsky and Hutch, meanwhile, cost $60 million to make and grossed domestically only $88 million. It's profitablity was rather low, comparatively. Furtherr, F 9/11 has want we like to call "legs" -- postive word of mouth and a high profile. Expect the movie to maintain, or dare I say increase it's earnings on a day to day basis next week. Finally, 222nd biggest opening ever of all movies? Think about how many movies have been made. Think about how many movies are made per year and then belittle this opening. People in Hollywood are shocked -- outright shocked -- at the money it made. We felt the same way when the PASSION came out. The nicest thing out of all of this is that we're going to see a lot more liberal films -- blatantly liberl -- now. Cause there oddles of money in it. And GS, you are completely wrong about "if it was so popular it would have been shown in 3,000 theaters". There are two reasons why you're wrong. First, Lionsgate is not a big time distributor with the bankroll to cash 3,000 screens. Second, F 9/11, as big as the hype, is a small movie. Screen buys like Starsky are reserved for what studios think will be their big blockbuster movies. And no one thought F 9/11 would do so well as it has. Expect to see an increase in theaters. Cause nearly every theater it was at was sold out. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: seth on June 29, 2004, 01:07:05 am and i might something.
Why is it distributed by Lionsgate and not Miramax ? Because Miramax is a affiliated to Disney, and that Disney is getting a big tax discount in the State of Florida. So basically if they were to allow Miramax to distribute that documentary, it would have meant the end of their tax break because who is gouvernor of the State of Florida ??? Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: "Sixhits" on June 29, 2004, 01:33:40 am and i might something. Why is it distributed by Lionsgate and not Miramax ? Because Miramax is a affiliated to Disney, and that Disney is getting a big tax discount in the State of Florida. So basically if they were to allow Miramax to distribute that documentary, it would have meant the end of their tax break because who is gouvernor of the State of Florida ??? I had a meeting at Miramax last week and they are not even allowed to talk about F 9/11 -- Disney is in the process of destroying Miramax and any mention of the film might get the company in trouble. It had to be personally purchased from Disney outside of Miramax. The exec did't know if the company will be around for much longer. Eisner has made it his personal vengance on the Bros to punish them for outmanuevering him. Sum of it is that Miramax may be destroyed soon. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: alaric on June 29, 2004, 03:23:32 am I, however, will not be wasting my money. Honestly, GS, I'd go see it if I were you. I know that personally, I would go see a movie made by Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter not because I like or support them in any way, but because they have different views and opinions on things than I do and I think it's healthy to get a diverse perspective on things. I probably wouldn't go opening night and would probably catch a matinee instead of prime time, but I would go. If nothing else, it would give me plenty of ammo for the next flame war. ;D One final note, you can't talk intelligently about a movie you haven't seen. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 29, 2004, 03:26:14 am I, however, will not be wasting my money. Honestly, GS, I'd go see it if I were you. I know that personally, I would go see a movie made by Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter not because I like or support them in any way, but because they have different views and opinions on things than I do and I think it's healthy to get a diverse perspective on things.I probably wouldn't go opening night and would probably catch a matinee instead of prime time, but I would go. If nothing else, it would give me plenty of ammo for the next flame war. ;D One final note, you can't talk intelligently about a movie you haven't seen. Yeah, but if I go, I might throw-up on someone because of the graphic liberal crap I might see....then I would end up in a fist fight with some idiotic liberal for throwing up on him.....then I would have to kill him with my bare hands.....then I would go to jail.....just a big mess. I better stay away for everyone elses safety.[/size] ;) Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: "Sixhits" on June 29, 2004, 03:34:13 am I, however, will not be wasting my money. Honestly, GS, I'd go see it if I were you. I know that personally, I would go see a movie made by Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter not because I like or support them in any way, but because they have different views and opinions on things than I do and I think it's healthy to get a diverse perspective on things.I probably wouldn't go opening night and would probably catch a matinee instead of prime time, but I would go. If nothing else, it would give me plenty of ammo for the next flame war. ;D One final note, you can't talk intelligently about a movie you haven't seen. Yeah, but if I go, I might throw-up on someone because of the graphic liberal crap I might see....then I would end up in a fist fight with some idiotic liberal for throwing up on him.....then I would have to kill him with my bare hands.....then I would go to jail.....just a big mess. I better stay away for everyone elses safety.[/size] ;) Or you might cry when the mother who lost her son reads his last letter home. Or cringe when American soldiers joke about an Iraqi they just captured, and how they grabbed his nuts and he got a boner. those are just two examples of my emotions during the film Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: alaric on June 29, 2004, 03:35:28 am I, however, will not be wasting my money. Honestly, GS, I'd go see it if I were you. I know that personally, I would go see a movie made by Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter not because I like or support them in any way, but because they have different views and opinions on things than I do and I think it's healthy to get a diverse perspective on things.I probably wouldn't go opening night and would probably catch a matinee instead of prime time, but I would go. If nothing else, it would give me plenty of ammo for the next flame war. ;D One final note, you can't talk intelligently about a movie you haven't seen. Yeah, but if I go, I might throw-up on someone because of the graphic liberal crap I might see....then I would end up in a fist fight with some idiotic liberal for throwing up on him.....then I would have to kill him with my bare hands.....then I would go to jail.....just a big mess. I better stay away for everyone elses safety.[/size] ;) Oh, don't worry about that. The theatre I was at had ample garbage cans and all were easily accessable. ;) I don't think it's just liberals who are going either. The area I live in is very conservative by nature and I seriously doubt it would have sold out every show all weekend if it were only liberals going. The first day maybe, but all weekend? Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 29, 2004, 03:52:07 am I'm not going to see it because I'm not going to support that moron with MY money.[/size]
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BFG on June 29, 2004, 10:35:47 am Quote I'm not going to see it because I'm not going to support that moron with MY money. Or anything that might threaten how you view the rest of the world and the recent events? Because your not going to like what your going to see? Or do you genuially think that the .2 cents or whatever that actually goes even close to Moore is going to make any freaking difference? Come on. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 29, 2004, 03:26:25 pm Quote I'm not going to see it because I'm not going to support that moron with MY money. Or do you genuially think that the .2 cents or whatever that actually goes even close to Moore is going to make any freaking difference?I would honestly rather toss that .2 cents into the ocean than support something that I oppose so strongly. One thing you will find about me is that I stand up for what I believe in. Even when it isn't popular, even when nobody else thinks it's right, even if I may be dead wrong. I stand up for what I believe in. Honor. Integrity. God. Country. These are things that define who I am. These things I will defend with my life. Peace. -GhostSniper Out. Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: seth on June 29, 2004, 05:16:59 pm even if I may be dead wrong. and you are... Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 29, 2004, 05:53:53 pm even if I may be dead wrong. and you are...In the words of one of my favorite Vice Presidents EVER.... GO FUCK YOURSELF! Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: seth on June 29, 2004, 06:28:42 pm once again you prove me that you are a short minded guy.
Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on June 29, 2004, 07:04:37 pm once again you prove me that you are a short minded guy. Thank-You. ;D Title: Re:Iran Wins War on Terror Post by: BTs_Mysterio on June 29, 2004, 07:07:16 pm once again you prove me that you are a short minded guy. Thank-You. ;D His lack of real comebacks never ceases to amaze me. |