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Title: Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on June 18, 2004, 07:47:01 pm
This just in,

They beheaded the latest hostage in Saudi Arabia.  details are still coming in.

oh, and this doesn't mean I am happy about it.  This is actually enraging me.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: seth on June 18, 2004, 07:52:37 pm
nowadays, its not good being an american in the middle-east


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: bronto on June 18, 2004, 08:04:21 pm
or anywhere for that matter..


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BFG on June 18, 2004, 08:08:19 pm
Apparently they annouced that this, and the killing of Nick Burg is in retaliation for the treatment of Prisoners in the Iraqi prisons...

my thoughts to his poor family back home.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: "Sixhits" on June 18, 2004, 09:28:14 pm
Terrible.

God damn it.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Civrock on June 18, 2004, 09:48:22 pm
i hope they didnt make a video of it again... or did they?


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: cO.gabe on June 18, 2004, 10:17:15 pm
i hope they didnt make a video of it again... or did they?

I don't even want to find out.... I might be an idiot and watch it.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: crypt on June 18, 2004, 10:40:02 pm
I watched the last one, and I don't want to see another one.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: "Sixhits" on June 18, 2004, 11:16:49 pm
There're pictures floating around.

:(


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Supernatural Pie on June 18, 2004, 11:47:40 pm
Awful. Truly awful.



Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BFG on June 19, 2004, 01:47:20 am
It was videoed' None of it has been shown on news to my knowledge as it was deemed too disturbing.

Pretty horrific.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: seth on September 23, 2004, 05:51:09 pm
2 more american hostages beheaded this week.  One brit, 2 frenchmen to come...

Apparently, it doesn draw a lot of attention from the american media. Does it become a routine in Iraq ?


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Cossack on September 23, 2004, 06:01:05 pm
There were some other beheadings. In Chechnya Itar-Tass covered this one beheading, then the Chechens starting doing it more. Sooner or later it became as predictable as war and disease in Africa.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 24, 2004, 04:07:19 am
You know you are no longer human when u cut another mans head off with a poorly sharpened knife. They truely fight like pansies. I say we just solve the whole Iraq problem with a 4v4 fist fight. The 4 best Taliban fighters vs our best fighters. Winner takes all.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: *DAMN Bondo on September 24, 2004, 05:03:57 am
Rebel, at least you didn't take a page out of my dad's book and suggest we start decapitating Iraqis in revenge to "show them" or else just drop a nuclear bomb on one city to show we are serious about saving them (explain to me that logic.)


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on September 24, 2004, 05:31:33 am
I say we do worse, we just ship our convicts and child molestors over there and tell them, "have one hell of a good time".  OH yeah, here's $100, backpack full of ammo and weapons of choice.  

Good Times, 2 problems fixed


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: |MP|Nomad on September 24, 2004, 06:47:26 am
Was this latest guy american?


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: The Golden Shark on September 24, 2004, 07:22:08 am
yeah, these videos are on the net. Although we might be angry at their fighting techniques, we must remember, that this way of fighting (gorilla warfare) was the way the US won its independence (except we didn't behead anyone that im aware of).



(im just playing devils advocate, in no way do i find andy beheading exceptable.)


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Stripes on September 24, 2004, 01:58:31 pm
i saw the movie , not cool at all =/

But thats how war is!


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Civrock on September 24, 2004, 02:32:28 pm
beheading hostages and making videos of it, to show the public... yeah, that's war... right.

(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif)


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Stripes on September 24, 2004, 03:00:25 pm
else they wouldn't do it - theres no rules in a war civic ! America does shit things too! it's not only the arabian world!

As ALL of u think.


and yes i know that shit shouldn't have happend!


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Toxic::Joka on September 24, 2004, 03:06:37 pm
Ugly world we live in  :(

I would like to see a reality-tv show with those jihad fellas are put on a island a la' Battle Royale

Stripes, yes there are rules regarding wars. And even without rules, it should be common sense that you don't chop off the head of a living person.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: *DAMN Bondo on September 24, 2004, 04:25:01 pm
Though it is more shocking, especially in our culture, there is no real moral difference between beheading and just shooting someone...murder is murder. In a number of cultures, Saudi (where beheading is a form of execution...more grusome but no different than our lethal injection) and Japanese/Samauri to name two. I know it is hard to watch, but to act like the beheadings are an extra level of bad is really absurd, and exactly what they want us to do.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on September 24, 2004, 05:57:42 pm
Though it is more shocking, especially in our culture, there is no real moral difference between beheading and just shooting someone...murder is murder. In a number of cultures, Saudi (where beheading is a form of execution...more grusome but no different than our lethal injection) and Japanese/Samauri to name two. I know it is hard to watch, but to act like the beheadings are an extra level of bad is really absurd, and exactly what they want us to do.

Hate to disagree with you Bucc (or is it REALLY Bondo? hmmm), but there is a BIG difference between beheading and lethal injection.  During a beheading the person is screaming in agony because they are alive and being tortured while having their head hacked off.  During lethal injection, a sedative is first injected (Sodium Pentothal) which puts the person to sleep before the lethal dose of Pavulon and Potassium chloride are injected.  It's actually a fairly painless procedure that causes death rather quickly.  So don't go there with how the two are the same.  That is total BS.

P.S.  Who's side are you on anyway?  Sounds to me like you are in support of the Terrorist Doctrine.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: seth on September 24, 2004, 07:14:55 pm
Bondo in the case of a lethal injection, i see at least 2 majors differences, besides what GS said:

- its legal

- the human dying is not  innocent



Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Stripes on September 24, 2004, 07:28:11 pm
GS there is no sides, that bs just has to stop. stupid question to ask what side they are with.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: *DAMN Bondo on September 24, 2004, 07:42:12 pm
Bondo in the case of a lethal injection, i see at least 2 majors differences, besides what GS said:
- its legal
- the human dying is not  innocent

My comments regarding lethal injection and beheading were in the context of Saudi vs. US capital punishment. In Saudi Arabia, the individual being beheaded is a criminal and it is legal to behead the criminal. So those two differences are not differences at all.

The innocent comparison was between shooting someone vs. beheading them. Shooting them would be illegal and it would be an innocent person dying.

GS, you just greatly miss the point and turn to disgusting accusations that I support terrorists. Unlike you, I don't support any killing of innocents. I don't make an exception when the killing is more "humane." I condemn the terrorists killing anyone in any manner.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on September 24, 2004, 08:17:59 pm
I would say I would have to make an exception if I am an innocent being killed.  Of course I would object, but for fucks sake, shoot me.  Don't lop my head off in one lengthy and painful manner.  Shit, even suffocate me.

Besides this stupid arguement.  They are just using the means necessary to make a point, watching it just helps pass on their point.  They are willing to due pretty much whatever they deem necessary to anyone, innocent or guilty, in order for us to believe their point of view.  They could eat kids alive for all I fucking care, I still won't see anything on their insane viewpoint of the world according to religion.  Maybe then more people will realize they are just pure evil that needs to be put down in any manner possible.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: crypt on September 24, 2004, 09:21:11 pm
These people have no morals apparently. How about shoot me then cut off my head?


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: KoS.Rebel on September 24, 2004, 10:58:29 pm
I dont understand their point.....if we just pulled all of our non military personel out of Iraq and kept close tabs on our soldiers, who are they going to behead? Their own citizens? I say pull out our rebuilders and leave the soldiers. try beheading someone with a gun. PwneD


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: "Sixhits" on September 24, 2004, 11:05:51 pm
Just a reminder.  The one place in the WHOLE middle east that didn't have Al Quieda before we invaded them?

(http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/terrornet/images/alqedamap.gif)

Take a good look.  Posted by the US government Nov 2001.

(from http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/terrornet/12.htm (http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/terrornet/12.htm))

We wouldn't be talking about beheadings in Iraq if it wasn't for Bush's lies.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: *DAMN Bondo on September 24, 2004, 11:10:13 pm
I dont understand their point.....if we just pulled all of our non military personel out of Iraq and kept close tabs on our soldiers, who are they going to behead? Their own citizens? I say pull out our rebuilders and leave the soldiers. try beheading someone with a gun. PwneD

That is a very good point Rebel...I see no reason why we cannot employ Iraqis to do the rebuilding and not Americans. Besides, they would probably not charge as much. It would certainly help the Iraqi economy and unemployment...in a more efficient way than just feeding aid in.

This is ultimately the exit strategy...keep the financial support but allow them to take charge in the manpower. Unfortunately, I don't see Bush going to it because they wouldn't want to yank the contract from Halliburton and send it to Iraqis...the American corporate interests wouldn't benefit from that.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: Maniac on September 24, 2004, 11:13:22 pm

We wouldn't be talking about beheadings in Iraq if it wasn't for Bush's lies.
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Thats a bunch of crap. Those people shouldn't even be over there. Nick burg was going around looking for a job over there and got captured it was his own fault. Only soldiers and a few other should be in Iraq right now. It's not Disney Land in Iraq.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on September 24, 2004, 11:16:02 pm
Ummm... Sixhits , "Countries Where al Qaeda Has Operated"

One group out of the many terrorist groups does not make Iraq terrorist free.  I know our focus for invading was Al Qaeda, but I had to point that one out.  It is well know terrorist groups were funded and at times present in Iraq, just not specified down to Al Qaeda.

added!

In addition, Bondo has put forward one good point while giving me one great idea.  We should hire Osama Bin Laden's families construction company to rebuild Iraq along with other Saudi Arabian companies in the south.  Then use Iranian construction in the North.

Imagine what these fucking guys would do then. I doubt Osama would go after his own families assets, and if he attacked the Iranians, they would go super jihadi on his ass in the north.  Goddamn reconstruction idea at this point is a farce.  Use Arab construction, eliminate the civilian deaths.

- Nj to all and forward this to the necessary parties.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: c| Spetsnaz. on September 24, 2004, 11:17:51 pm

That is a very good point Rebel...I see no reason why we cannot employ Iraqis to do the rebuilding and not Americans. Besides, they would probably not charge as much. It would certainly help the Iraqi economy and unemployment...in a more efficient way than just feeding aid in.

Then how would all those private U.S. contractors like Halliburton get rich?


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: "Sixhits" on September 24, 2004, 11:29:59 pm
Ummm... Sixhits , "Countries Where al Qaeda Has Operated"

One group out of the many terrorist groups does not make Iraq terrorist free.  I know our focus for invading was Al Qaeda, but I had to point that one out.  It is well know terrorist groups were funded and at times present in Iraq, just not specified down to Al Qaeda.

added!

In addition, Bondo has put forward one good point while giving me one great idea.  We should hire Osama Bin Laden's families construction company to rebuild Iraq along with other Saudi Arabian companies in the south.  Then use Iranian construction in the North.

Imagine what these fucking guys would do then. I doubt Osama would go after his own families assets, and if he attacked the Iranians, they would go super jihadi on his ass in the north.  Goddamn reconstruction idea at this point is a farce.  Use Arab construction, eliminate the civilian deaths.

- Nj to all and forward this to the necessary parties.

Big  Point of Fact.  How many times have you heard the President and Vice President and other members of the administration confabulate Al Quieda with Iraq?


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: BFG on September 25, 2004, 12:40:01 am
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Use Arab construction

And that wont ever happen cos bush wants to make a quick buck for his big business back home...


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: [:] Narauko on September 25, 2004, 04:43:34 pm
Surely everyone knows before they go over there, that there is terrorist activity. And if we were just to leave the soldiers in iraq you'd still see coffins coming home. US have started something noone can finish, the arguement that terrorists can't think differently. I dont condone there actions but what else can they possibly do, talk quietly on their local TV and radio, thats gonna get a whole lot of publicity.

Terrorism has been around for ages, people have been doing what they have been doing before we were alive and yet you all act shocked. I wouldn't be surprised if they do group beheadings or use a spoon to take their hearts - actually that would sicken me.

Incest.


Title: Re:Latest hostage beheaded also
Post by: seth on September 27, 2004, 05:11:39 pm

Terrorism has been around for ages, people have been doing what they have been doing before we were alive and yet you all act shocked.

terrorism being around for a long time doesnt make its actions less disgusting. Its just that people get used to it and forget about reality: killing someone, a way or another, is just sick !