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Title: ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: .vooDoo. on June 12, 2004, 07:17:19 pm What the hell is the difference between these 2 cards? or are they the same. I cant find any info on the 9800XT w/256mb anywhere and thats the upgrade card that you can select when buying the new G5.
Both have 256mb vram and both are a 9800. Someone please tell me. lol **update** I actually found this, but the SE isnt in the comparison chart. http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/compare.html Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: crypt on June 12, 2004, 08:02:25 pm Both kick ass cards, you'd probably not be able to tell the difference :)
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: Civrock on June 12, 2004, 08:06:28 pm isn't the XT especially designed for the G5s?
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: crypt on June 12, 2004, 08:08:44 pm I believe so, i know the Radeon 9800XT won't work in anything other than a G5.
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on June 13, 2004, 01:16:44 am The 9800 SE is specificaly designed for the g5... I believe the xt has outputs to TV's but im not 100% sure of that.
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: .vooDoo. on June 13, 2004, 01:51:11 am I would believe that is the other way around. If its true what your saying Lee, why wouldnt they offer the SE as an option in the graphics cards when i purchased the G5. My only option for a high end card was the XT. So I would assume that is the card that is specifically designed for the G5...or I coule be wrong. Just sounds logical to me.
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on June 13, 2004, 12:14:43 pm No The SE does not have the TV outs.. It has A DVI and ADC connections (I would know. I recently installed the SE in my g5) In it discription it is a G5 only card.... http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800proseme/specs.html
Quote Specifications Specifications * 256MB DDR memory * Dual Integrated 10-bit per channel 400MHz DACs * Dual 165MHz TMDS transmitter (DVI compliant) * Multiple display connections * ADC port * DVI-I port * DVI-I to VGA adapter included System Requirements * Mac? OS X 10.2.8 or 10.3.3 and later * Power Mac? G5 * 512MB of system memory * Installation software requires CD-ROM drive * DVD playback requires DVD drive Quote RADEON 9800 XT RADEON 9800 PRO SE RADEON 9800 PRO RADEON 9800 Frame Buffer 256MB DDR 256MB GDDR2 128MB DDR 128MB DDR Memory Interface 256-bit 256-bit 256-bit 256-bit Rendering Pipelines 8 8 8 8 Pixel Fillrate (Gpixels/sec)3.3 3.04 3.04 2.6 Engine Clock (MHz) 412 380 380 325 Memory Clock (MHz) 730 700 680 580 Output Connections VGA + TV + DVI VGA + DVI VGA + TV + DVI VGA + TV + DVI Now these are the PC spects.. but you can see what the diff are between the cards.. mac card have ADC instead on VGA on the se and the XT... I took TV off of the SE listed here b/c I know for sure that the mac SE does not have tv out. Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BFG on June 13, 2004, 12:48:49 pm No not a huge difference in the cards, certainly under the hood not much. Whats the price difference on these too Harvey?
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on June 13, 2004, 01:03:34 pm I dunno what the XT card will be for the mac.. but I got the SE card for around $350 usd ($365usd w/ overnight shipping) from buy.com http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10363495&loc=1765
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BFG on June 13, 2004, 01:15:15 pm Very nice! All you need now are a few games that actually require half the tech that is on these cards!
... then again a copy of Doom III or HL2 should they make it to the mac should certainly do the trick!;) Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BTs_Lee.Harvey on June 13, 2004, 02:20:33 pm Yea.. but i have been having prob w/ the SE due to a fucked up driver that ATI put out so it rendered small pixels of whats behind 3d objects (like you can see colors of whats behind wall ingames... but not enough to see what there.. just small pixels of it flashing on and off across the screen.. im still waiting for them to release an update b/c the temp solution for the prob didnt fix it... but all thats in my other thread about this card. Other then the smallprob.. It fixed the other vid prob i was having in RvS w/ the nvidia card.
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: BFG on June 13, 2004, 02:39:58 pm Hmm.. U guys seen that ATI have got an advert out looking for a experienced programmer to build drivers for their Mac Cards, 8-10 years experience and must know OpenGL inside out!?! Sounds good, another fulltime post helping inprove the cards support is allways nice! :)
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: .vooDoo. on June 13, 2004, 07:58:55 pm I bet that job pays hella good too.
Title: Re:ATI 9800SE vs 9800XT Post by: *DAMN Mauti on June 13, 2004, 10:25:39 pm The XT version has a faster memory and engine speed and a higher fillrate then the 9800 SE. Both Mac cards only have ADC and DVI outputs, they unfortunaly removed the TV output. *GRMBL*. Further you can only get the XT as bto.
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