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Title: American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2004, 02:51:54 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/12/iraq.berg/index.html

It's depressing to think things like this can still happen in today's world. Nobody deserves to die like that guy did.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Toxic::Joka on May 12, 2004, 03:17:37 pm
Yea i just saw it.. . sick fucks  >:(


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BFG on May 12, 2004, 03:30:43 pm
omfg. bloody horrible. just bloody horrible.

How anybody... anybody can do that to another person is simply incomprehensible


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Brain on May 12, 2004, 06:54:16 pm
for once i'm going to agree with bush on this one... the people who did this must be hunted down and punished.  now, personally i would torture them for a while and subject them to the same death  that they inflicted upon Mr. Berg. our constitution forbids this however, therefor i hope that these sinners rot in the hell that they have dammned themselves to and i hope that we get to send them there. after trial, of course


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: "Sixhits" on May 12, 2004, 06:54:22 pm
These the fucker I want dead.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: seth on May 12, 2004, 08:41:31 pm
in that case, we didnt to know. Can you imagine this guy's family reaction to the news !
Freedom of the press should have its limits.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BFG on May 12, 2004, 08:46:10 pm
They knew before didn't they.. but didn't want the press to know (i don't blame them). imagine having to come to terms with that while being hounded by the press.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Supernatural Pie on May 12, 2004, 09:21:57 pm
Can you imagine this guy's family reaction to the news !

They blame the Bush administration. (http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1083180435990&p=1012571727162)


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: cO.gabe on May 12, 2004, 09:38:03 pm
And this guy is just a civilian! Not even a soldier! ...so fucked up.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: crypt on May 12, 2004, 11:48:02 pm
This is sickening. It chills me to just think about who would do an act like this.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: "Sixhits" on May 13, 2004, 12:17:38 am
Can you imagine this guy's family reaction to the news !

They blame the Bush administration. (http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1083180435990&p=1012571727162)

They blame the Administration in a broad sense.

However, they direct their true scorn at the US military, which they claim was complicite in the detaining of their son by Iraqi police. This detainment, presumably, allowed him to be targeted by militants.

>>>
Mr. Berg was detained in March by the Iraqi police in the northern city of Mosul, American officials and his parents said. While he was in police custody, he was questioned by F.B.I. agents who were trying to determine what he was doing in Iraq and whether he was a United States citizen.

At the same time, his parents, frustrated by their inability to find out about their son's whereabouts, filed a lawsuit in federal court in Philadelphia on April 5 asserting that he was being held by the American military in violation of his civil rights. A day later, he was released.

He disappeared soon after that.
<<<

http://nytimes.com/2004/05/12/national/12berg.html (http://nytimes.com/2004/05/12/national/12berg.html)


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Acri on May 13, 2004, 12:46:19 am
I really hope I never get to see that video somewhere on the net.

My heart is with the Berg family.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: *DAMN Silent Killer on May 13, 2004, 12:53:32 am
The chick that posed infront of the naked soldier with a ciggarette said that "Much worse things happened at the prison"

I bet youd be suprised what happens there


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2004, 09:24:03 am
much worse things than shown in the photos.... not "much worse things than beheading."


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Typhy on May 13, 2004, 09:35:46 am
I really hope I never get to see that video somewhere on the net.

My heart is with the Berg family.

I've seen the video, it's pretty fucking nasty.

I don't really have a problem with Iraqi insurgents shooting it out with US Soldiers. They're soldiers, they're incredibly well trained, and they have the ability to fight back. Nic Berg wasn't a US Soldier, he was a civilian. Even taking him hostage in the first place is completly unacceptable, executing him is crossing a major boundery. I hope to see the bodies of the people who did this.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: |MP|Nomad on May 13, 2004, 08:42:59 pm
I couldn't watch the video, I had it on my desktop then started to watch it and suddenly when I started to hear the screams, I just shut it off, I couldn't watch the rest and I didn't and I won't.  I deleted it.  

Just to think what Mr. Berg was thinking right before they excuted him and what the family is going through, i can't even imagine it.  And the press, don't get me started on these fucks.  To even have the nerve, the gull to make this public, they should be ashamed.  Then the press and people talk about how bad GTA3 and similar video games are a bad influence, wtf?


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: the oNe on May 14, 2004, 01:28:51 am
with Bush's record of "hunting" down whoever did this...I wouldn't be surprised if they never catch him...but my god...that was brutal, just found that video on the Internet...fucking extremists


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BFG on May 14, 2004, 02:00:27 am
I do not understand how u guys can be going on to the net to activly find this video so you can watch it..

firstly its just plain bloody sick. thats a man having his throat cut, not a movie trailer.

secondly his family were very clear how they did not want the media reporting it etc... how do you think they feel that people all over hte place are downloading the last moments of their sons life before he has his head cut off?

Jesus Christ this world is so fucked up in every possible way.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: l ! l Ross on May 14, 2004, 02:11:20 am
Hopefully this kind of thing dose not happen again but I fear it will.

I hope these people are brought to justice and also the soldiers that abused people in the prisons. There is no justification for any of it.

Peace will come eventually. But more will die.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: c| Dr. NO on May 14, 2004, 02:41:32 am
I do not understand how u guys can be going on to the net to activly find this video so you can watch it..

firstly its just plain bloody sick. thats a man having his throat cut, not a movie trailer.

secondly his family were very clear how they did not want the media reporting it etc... how do you think they feel that people all over hte place are downloading the last moments of their sons life before he has his head cut off?

Jesus Christ this world is so fucked up in every possible way.


Well putt.

Apart of me is saying "this is so wrong and these men should be brought to justice".

Then another part says (putting myself in the place of an Iraqi) "I'm pissed off at this occupying force that came here on a lie to take our oil while killing thousands of my people".

I'm not trying to to justify what these men have done.  Killing Innocent civilians is wrong and they should be punished.  All i'm saying is i've tried to keep an open mind through this sick awful war.  I recognize their hate and understand it.  What if this was happening to us.  I know if some outside force came and occupied us in the U.S. and killed members of my family or friends, the first thing i believe would cross my mind is "seek out and kill them who ever they my be".

...Doc


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: the oNe on May 14, 2004, 04:11:58 am
BFG, I wasn't being a jackass and crazy son of a bitch to look that video up.  Had to see it to believe it.  end of disscusion about this from me.


God Bless Mr. Berg and his family and friends.  And hopefully the people who did this will be brought to justice.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: The Golden Shark on May 14, 2004, 06:00:55 am
words cannot even begin to describe the horror, and the disgust, and the fear that i have. I have just watched the video, and never before have my hands shaken so much at the site of such brutality. my words are gone. my body is paralized. for the love of all things good, and sacred.

i hear only silence.....
things feel dark....
i am humbled....


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Ace on May 14, 2004, 06:54:58 am
words cannot even begin to describe the horror, and the disgust, and the fear that i have. I have just watched the video, and never before have my hands shaken so much at the site of such brutality. my words are gone. my body is paralized. for the love of all things good, and sacred.

i hear only silence.....
things feel dark....
i am humbled....

That's what you get for watching the video, moron.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Cossack on May 14, 2004, 08:56:34 am
Welcome to war in the East. Not saying this is acceptable, but it is almost to be expected. The Chechens do it sacarmentaly, and the many invaders of Afghanistan have also met this same fate.


However, I am skeptical, because (I just saw this video on CNN or whatever the other day) that one of the insurgents says Davah prozee. This is Russian for "hurry up." Are the guys who did this Russians? Not to mention some other irregularities in the movie. The video has also been declared a fraud by a Mexico City Surgeon.http://www.rense.com/general52/berge.htm (http://www.rense.com/general52/berge.htm)

It may have not been popular to question this video, but someone had to do it (FYI I thought the Abuse pictures were doctored at first).


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2004, 09:24:00 am
http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm

though there are some fallacies, they make a lot of good points.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Toxic::Joka on May 14, 2004, 01:30:05 pm
I do not understand how u guys can be going on to the net to activly find this video so you can watch it..

Speaking for myself, I wasent activly trying to find it. I had seen a GR room namned "don't watch the beheading film" and i had no clue what it was about. And I had read various texts refering to it, so naturally my curiosity was awoken.. .

Then later that day I was presented with a question if I want the link or not.. . In retrospect I regret my answer  :(


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on May 14, 2004, 04:19:13 pm
Well, having previously seen the horrors of war firsthand, I decided not to watch this video.  I am not the same person I was in the 1990's when I doned (at that time) a Black Beret and witnessed friends getting shot, blown to pieces, mutilated, and come home in wooden boxes.  I have mellowed out over time, and have tried to forget much of what I have seen in my life.  So, as with the Daniel Pearl slaying, I decided not to view this video either.  If ever I am called back to active duty (they can do that to me all the way up until 2008), I may watch both of those videos to help get back my killing spirit.

Hopefully that never happens.

Peace.

-GhostSniper Out.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: c| Dr. NO on May 15, 2004, 05:02:53 am

If ever I am called back to active duty (they can do that to me all the way up until 2008), I may watch both of those videos to help get back my killing spirit.


Just about the sickest thing you've ever typed up.  Welcome to a new low.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on May 15, 2004, 06:07:36 am
If ever I am called back to active duty (they can do that to me all the way up until 2008), I may watch both of those videos to help get back my killing spirit.
Just about the sickest thing you've ever typed up.  Welcome to a new low.

Well then, Dr. NO, I take it you have never been in combat.  When you are in that situation, you need the rage, you need the killer spirit, you need to know that you are the most lethal fighting machine on the face of the earth...you need these things because that is how you come out of it ALIVE.  I'm not talking about killing spirit in that I want to go out and just kill people....I mean the killing spirit that builds up your inner spirit for the fight, that gives you the confidence you need to come out the victor.

It's a combat thing.  You just wouldn't understand.

Peace.

-GhostSniper Out.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BFG on May 15, 2004, 11:37:46 am
Perhaps... right now considering the topic and the situation... It is not the most suitable post however.

We have more than enough people in this world ready to kill each other...


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on May 15, 2004, 05:45:22 pm
Perhaps... right now considering the topic and the situation... It is not the most suitable post however.

Nah, I think Dr. No just didn't get what I was trying to say.  Someone who has been in combat would understand where I was comming from with my statement.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: smoke.aHa! on May 15, 2004, 08:13:30 pm
If no one here has seen the video yet and i know people do.  here it is per cutter's request.

People can easily find that video if they choose to do so on their own, there is no need to post it in the forums. - assassin


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: spike on May 15, 2004, 08:42:30 pm
smoke there was no reason to send me that vid.


Title: Re:American Hostage Shown Beheaded in Video
Post by: Ace on May 15, 2004, 10:10:14 pm
This thread has gone offtopic and gotten out of hand.