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Introducing the Mac Shoutcasting Network. I have decided to start up MSN (kinda cheesy eh?). The Mac Shoutcasting Network will be around for one reason, to spectate matches played on the *DAMN ladder and play by play them for later download. What do i mean? Well lemme explain it a little better, lets say ZT and BTs are playing the finals of the GhR ladder. What i do is enter the server along with the members and go as spectator. Throughout the match i will be on my mic giving a play by play of the match (including kills, getting objs) basically getting listeners into the match. After the match is over, using my new audio software junk, i can save the audio as an mp3 file and throw it up on my site for download. This means that people from around the mac community can hear you own a clan or get owned by a clan. Its basically a way to give people a chance to hear what happened during the match rather then just hear about the score and the bitching that takes afterwards. Shoutcasting has been around for a long time in the PC world, such teams are www.tsncentral.com have been shoutcasting matches for such ladders as TWL and OGL. Ive listened to many of the shoutcasts u can DL from tsncentral and they sound very good and allow people to hear play by play of the good matches. Right now im in developement of the site and i want to hear what the people of the *DAMN ladder community have to say about the Mac Shoutcasting Network. Reply here with whatcha think questions comments or concerns are very helpful being that im trying to get this thing off the ground!

Our very own reporter watching the big games?!?!

I like it!

Shoutcast:

"...and GhostSniper peers over the edge of the cliff, lines his scope up on Typhy's left temple, and FIRES!  It's a kill, it's a beautiful headshot in the best tradition of the sniper!  Typhy is whithering in agony, crying to the heavens...."why me god, why me???"  When just then voodoo comes over to try and pick-pocket his dead buddy and BAM!  GhostSniper scores another direct headshot!"

ooohhh.....hehehehe

muhahahahaha

They better have a sexy voice. I don't want some squeaky, feminine voice commenting on *NADS pwnage. =D Wait, *NADS doesn't CB? Damn. But still. Don't let just anybody be a commenter. They must be shmexy, like Mauti.  ;D

Aramarth has the perfect voice for the job lol....

Just anyone but not komisar - i swear to god he ties a rubber band around his bollocks before he talks on netfone ;)

Actually, anyone but sar to be exact.

Yeah, I think this would be kinda cool, nerdy but cool. Especially when you are bored.

isn't all this shit "nerdy"?

t minus 1 month b4 golo gets a new computer....uh oh !

Rebs (tubby) u can cover all my games, it should make for some good entertainment at least.

BTW Rebs, can you listen to those servers on that PC TsN site from iTunes?

What's to stop someone in the cb from listening in to the play by play, thereby knowing exactly what the other team is doing.

And if your answer is: "no one in the cb is allowed to listen in," then what if someone listening in is then conveying what the other team is doing to the players in the cb.

The play by play would have to be very disciplined. For example, the speaker could only mention kills, and when objectives are taken? anything that both teams in the cb already know about.

Well snipe, I took the liberty of DLing and listening to a match, it's fucking crazy hard to understand, they're all like "Oh Axis go in for a sweep, and exterminate the opposition." and shit, very weird.

ok, i get enough delay off of netphone from my teammates making it hard to know what the hell they are doing and where they got killed. to deal with the delay in the system you're talking about would be insane.
for example we'll take a 4 second long message with the bare minimum facts
call it a half a second to make the call, another half to have someone realize it's useful info and relay the info, and then me recognize, process and act on that info
that's a second before I'm getting the info not counting latency, and IF I'm paying attention solely to the shoutcast  it's 5 seconds before i get the info i need and act on it. by the time i react the info is no good

so yea snipe, it can be done, but i'd rather not listen to the shoutcast, kill the extra lag, an be able to hear footsteps than have a constant stream of old info

Yes u can listen to those servers live on iTunes but i dont know how they do it so i wont be able to do it. As of right now im the only one who will be shoutcasting but i will be looking for dedicated others. SRy ghost i wont be shoutcasting matches between a2 and BTs due to the fact ILL BE IN THEM lol. The only problem that has arisen is that of web space. I lack a place to put my site that can hold all the mp3 files and im kinda poor so i dont have the money to purchase any....any ideas?!

Well, does it have to be a problem, because I find it quite uninteresting to be able to listen to some old matches, and I believe the ones that are interested would ask for that audio file right after the game. It could also be a requierment for clans to have these audio files on their website for at least one season, if the wish to have their matches shoutcasted. But there are probably a lot of good ideas on where to store them

 love the idea though.  "Brutha goes for it, but BFG blows it all because of a foolish nade in the back of bruthas head, killing himself, brutha and doc. What an error in comunications......if only brutha had shouted louder.....awww the horror....pieces of shred :MoD: is spread all over the red square".

yeah...i could definetly see shoutcasting happening. ;)

lol yes thanks for reliving that horrific nightmare for me there brutha ;) I hope i will never ever play another round like it. oh the calamerty! ;)

Just don't walk to close to sab when he has GL  :P :o

Brutha if u can find a way for me to host this LIVE plz gimme a shout. If i can figure it out id love to hear how. Sounds like people are likin it hooah!

Try www.ncsuk.net they have some nice deals over there.

Well...have to say that I am not sure how we can figure out to shoutcast live....BUT some of my clan mates have been bombarding me with their "radio idiots" live streaming of music on I tunes....would it not be possible to to that with voice? Hell....even Ichat could work if we can squeeze in an observer into the CB. The point is, if we are going to shoutcast these games LIVE we need to make sure of that none of the clans involved in the CB can listen in.

But I will gladly be a part of any group set down to look into this matter.

cheers

p.s. just PM me if you guys want to mind meld.

Brutha find me on GR and lets talk about it. As of now my whole views on it were going downhill but i feel that even tho i can do LIVE yet it would still be cool to shoutcast.....and then let people DL. Just need some webspace to throw DL's on...

MSN went leaps and bounds today. I got hooked up with some pimp audio things and i will be able to record and go live on the air. As of now, the mac shoutcasting network looks to be up and accepting shoutcasting request starting monday of next week. Hooah!

And that is one of the two reasons this is doomed to fail.  I don't want anyone taking any extra bandwidth up, and most people feel the same way.

The other reason being that spectators can't observer in Raven Shield under the BL settings, they'd only see a blank screen saying "no death camera's allowed".  The reason for this being that we don't teams to be able to observer each other.  The one way around this would be for the person to actually keep joining each team to be able to observe it.  No thanks.

Shoutcasting would work for Ghost Recon...I dunno if anyone cares tho...

Wouldn't have to worry about bandwidth or cheating because the shoutcaster could just use the replay for the commentary...just an idea. meh

Well, we dont have to shoutcast RvS cause of the rules. No dirt on my shoulders. This isnt doomed to fail. Your just being negative. If it were doomed to fail, there would be no shoutcasting for PC games, but as we all know there are more then 1 shoutcasting sites out there for PC matches so yes it can work. I guess if you wanna have your match shoutcasted u have to sacrifice some stuff. As i see it, shoutcasting will work for....GhR, AA, MOHaa, CoD (when it comes out), and RvS. But hell, if you dont wanna get shoutcasted in RvS aint no thang, ill find some1 who does wanna get shoutcasted.

Yep, I'm probably just as wrong about this as I was when I predicted how many AA CB's would be held the first season, or the second.

Wait, I wasn't wrong.

hahahahahaha not funny. I can tell you why there arent many AA matches. One, there were only 5 clans, Two, 3 of the clans were Euro! That means its kinda hard to play them do to time difference. Bucc, ive got nothing against you but please dont plague MSN with the negativity that youve allready posted here.

I don't need the reasons, I said them all long ago.  You, on the other hand, was sure it was going to take off.

This is an open discussion for opinions, sorry if you don't like mine, but I'm still going to voice it.

Never said u couldnt....just dont like flame wars....

To get back on topic here....i just got everything working so i can no talk Live. Now to answer the question that everyone wants to know...how do i keep people from listening to me while they are warring to find out where people are? Simple, on the software im using i can see whos connected to me and if i see anything suspicious, i boot them. Plus, half the time i wont tell where people are...its not needed in the shoutcast. And no clan should be that deperate to have to listen to me to win. Im going to start accepting shoutcast requests at the beginning of the BL season 8 on May 6th. To prerequest, email me at rebel@killersonspree.com. Those people who have a certain time in which they will war will have first priority then those who are "spur of the moment"

Really, think that speaks for itself.  

As for flames, the only one close here to that is you.  All I've done is express an opinion with reasons, none of which were flame worthy.  

Someone not agreeing with you isn't flames Rebel, you are starting to sound a lot like Rapid.

     STOP FIGHTING! Can't you see you're tearing us apart?! ::wipes tears:: I'm going to my room!

Why are you wasting your time on my thread? Now to get back on track....

Ive tested my software and have gotten the hang of things so im fairly close to being ready. Im gonna give it a test on some kind of CB soon so if you wanna get shoutcasted catch me on GR and just ask!

How, exactly, are we going to listen to the ShoutCast?

And where can I listen to the ShoutCast?

Well basically, right now im developing a website for the whole deal but im still doing shoutcasts. What you need to do is either hop on GR and listen to one live ( i will have a chat room up describing the live shoutcast which will have a link to the itunes stream) or u can DL the shoutcasts when i get the site up and running. The only thing i really need right now is web space. I have no money which makes things tough.

Just wondering Guysr re the shoutcasting... Im getting the feeling some clans understandably are slighly worried about the fact that this is the constant opportunity for people to 'listen in' and feed invaluable information to one or either of the teams involved in the cb... To remove this can i suggest a 2minute delay on the shoutcast? It would eliminate the problem as people just wouldn't have a chance to correlate the information given the time gaps....

Not sure if this is possible etc.... Also out of curiosity what kit are u using for these shoutcasts?!

Oh and well done :mod:muzzy and biggy and, Koon and Priest for getting the first shoutcast done!! :)

BFG, i have recently emailed a highly successful pc shoutcasting group about how they control this factor. As of now there is a delay on when i speak and when it receaches my listeners...if i had to guess it would be able a 30 second - 1 minute delay based on where they are located. I know this by asking questions do listeners during pregame and then timing how long it takes them to answer. When i find out how the PC world controls this factor i will reply.

Thats cool rebel, hell 30 seconds is going to make quite a difference. We were just interested as to what exactly you were going to say on the shoutcast and how much you refer to locations etc... I guessed there would be a certain amount of delay between u seeing whats going on, saying somthing, it being processed and then streamed out, but i reckoned that could be anything between a couple of seconds and at least 45 :)

ps. great job last night i hope a lot more people sign up to have u shoutcast their games - and as you get more familier with the clans and the specific players - just as sports commentators do with the teams, i can see it going from strengh to strengh!

pps.. dont' forget to get the lastest mappack updates lol  ;)

For those of you who dont head to the Battle League section, please go there ASAP and read my post about Mac Shoutcasting Network. I hope that some people in the community can find it in their hearts to donate some money to MSN so i can buy a server to stream MSN off of to prevent lag while im shoutcasting in matches. For more info head to my post in the Battle League section