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hy?poc?ri?sy (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy?poc?ri?sies
1.      The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2.      An act or instance of such falseness.


? But it seems Nerds like the ones who love bashing and throwing cursewords after my name (lol - kindergarden style)?

?regards idiots (mauti these forums are "poisoned" for me - everytime i log into our own website i get abused by those shithead comments!)?

?Why? Cuz u are overweighted fat americans - who dont get a good enough education to check out anything that takes place 10 miles away from your neighborhood. the only thing u are interested is waving your flag, cheering to whatever your president says and watching CNN (if there is no sit-com on another channel).?

? Ace u are a nationalist and if u would have grown up during 1938 - 1945 here some facists would have had their pure joy with your thinking i guess (its easy to replace a flag and wave with another one).

U are at the same damn point as the fukcing nazis have been once: We are the number 1 race/nation and all other nations are just nations with degenerated underlings?

?Ace and the other (for my taste 100%) morons?

?All of u who feel personal offended by my "fat, uneducated" statement: Okay you CAN feel offended. Cuz i knew when i posted this, that only guys where these attributes fit on would take it personal. Gotcha morons.?

?Grift and the others here who waste my once so beloved forums: Go to hell with your advices to me how to "discuss" here. I dont care what people like u think about me - u are not the kind of people i wanna have props from. and i dont care if i loose your respect - i spit on your "respect" - u are unable to respect human life at all - so i dont need your fukcing idiot respect at all.?
 
?Bah - i am trying to explain things to some morons again but i should already know they have nothing in their brain than a (i must say it IS beautiful) flag (uuuhhhh kill civilians is NECASSERY but our FLAG will NEVER touch the ground - uhuuu!!! wow "the patriot". disgusting!).?  

?And if it is so i bet: they all SPIT on u and will not need the blessings of bloodthirsty people like u who arent any better than the asshole bin laden.
warmongers, nationalists, little wheenies
go to hell and stay there a long time pls.?


? I dont hate u cuz u are american - i just hate you cuz u are a violent - brainless - nationalist, whose stupid comments arent really worth arguing with.?

?Its easy for u to hide behind the whole bunch of anti-moslemic people here on "my" forums or on GR cuz u are not alone - one warmonger is backing the comments of the other (when i deliver political facts, you bash em aside and answer some patriotic bullshit instead).?

? It really doesnt interest me a bit if u lost respect for *DAMN or all your respect for me. I dont respect morons of your kind so keep that shit for yourself.?

?i ve to say sorry if some of ur ignorant bullshit is so full of crap - so that my "ape-like" english (or should i say "american") skills are not able to understand em as u really meant em.?

?(Mr. Grifter - u managed to make me that upset on u so its very unlikely u would earn any respect from any other afghan or afghan woman. no need to keep up your fake respect for us - thanks.). ?

?But it seems Nerds like the ones who love bashing and throwing cursewords after my name (lol - kindergarden style) never have been aware about these "benefits" of the U.S.?

?But for little clowns like u guys (the usual bunch of idiots), Critism seems not to be allowed  anymore (woah u would have loved it to live in the former UDSSR - muahaha).?

?Check it: I love the u.s.a but stupid americans like ace, grift, blackhand etc. are a littlebit like the (fukc)Taliban?

Just in case Bander reads this.
For the record Bander, I only take offense to the uneducated part. ?I sacrificed being in shape so I could be educated ?;)
You of course know that I have a much more generous political approach being a social Libertarian. ?I don't agree with the terrorists, but I think our government's insistance in attempting to Americanize the entire world brought it on. ?While we should show an interest in protecting groups of people from persecution, we can't force the issue constantly by giving aid to rebels all the time. ?Once upon a time we supported Fidel Castro, Sadam Huiessen, and the Taliban. ?Now we are supporting groups similar to how those groups were to over throw them. ?It is a never ending shit cycle that the U.S. has gotten it self into and it needs to make a change soon. ?Either way, consider me and expatriate that just happens to still be in the U.S.

P.S. Before you start pissing on me about the expatriate thing, look it up, it doesn't mean what you might think. ?Hemmingway and Fitzgerald were both expatriots but are now considered the greatest American Writers.

First, let me quote the immortal Jack Buck and say to blackhand, "Pardon me while I stand up and applaud."



Bondo, we "brought it on." That's bullshit. You want to boycott our economy? Fine, we brought it on. You want to bash our president or government? Fine, we brought it on. You want to make an attack on Americans on our soil? We are going to bring it ALL on you until you breathe no longer.

Be ashame Ace and Blackhand. U are acting like dictators here. Americans of Bondos Style are the reason why i and MANY people on this world respect the U.S.! Americans like ace and blackhawk are the kind of americans who are most guilty by giving the U.S. this "selfish" image and make it possible for assholes like bin laden to spread hate about it.

Once again:

with "the FAT uneducated americans" i meant, are ACE and BLACKHAND (and all the others of their type i didnt meet until now). i adressed this sentence to THEM! not to the americans in common. I used a steroptype to answer their stereotypes - THIS was a mistake.

About Blackhands "sum-up" above:

Seems i have a little fanclub rising there (lol). Okai Mr. Blackhand: u dragged all my "comments" out of contex and summed up everything where i attacked u or your few gang-brothers here. (applause - how long time did that take? u could have used it better to explain your OWN views here on current issues). As i mentoned: Those who curse and swear loudest are those who have less or nothing to say. (i cursed too a bit in the beginning of this "chat war" and im ashame for that - but those people i cursed at obvously deserved it).

And: Since i figured out that this shit u (Blackh., ace ...) are talking here is NOT the common opinion of other U.S. GR dudes, or americans i see on TV, i am not that worried anymore. in the beginning i really was. but now i know u and ace are also just extremists and do not represent the U.S. majoritys point of view.

At last i am very thankful to the "honest" americans for fighting with my and my familys people for a better afghanistan! (i just want to be sure people (politicans) who are like ace, black, grift etc. dont do something that makes afghans and americans enemys. cuz this would really suck. There is war since 15 years. War for many reasons and its very HARD to orientate yourself in afghan issues (very very complicated) - but once there was a time where people from america and europe travelled to kabul in their old flower power trucks and had a chilled and nice time while being "invited" into the houses of guest-friendly afghans. But WAR destroyed all this beauty and friendlyness there. If there should ever be peace one day (and when the mines are removed) we (friends) should meet there together among some biduines, smoke some grass (or not) and praise the peace!

greetings

Black: i "found" this thread before i found your other one.

? i dont know if u re fat or slim, well educated or not (its still a stereotypic i used - and it really sux.)

? not everything u posted is bad or wrong in my eyes

? i now know how u meant some things. i overreacted on some of them cuz i misinterpreted them.

? (black) u are not an extremist (but some views of yours seem a little extreme in my eyes - but however - its just my opinion)

so i hope i stopped any further escalations with black after my last post here. (greetings Wrath also: i am sure u read most of the stuff here too - great tnx that u didnt join bashing me - i know u are a patriot too (like most U.S. *DAMNs) who could have felt offended by some of my posts here also. ;) - but i am glad u already know me a little better (emotional person, as mauti described it) -

peace blackhand (hopefully)

Bander, I noticed you have apologized to everyone but me about being "fat uneducated Americans"


Swim a 500 yard free in under 5 minutes. Then come call me fat.


Get a scholarship to USC. Then come call me uneducated.

Ace, how about next semester you take a Political Science class that has some emphisis on U.S. Foreign Policy. ?I love how on both my posts you pull out the sentance that we brought the attack on as the one thing to respond to meanwhile ignoring the rest. ?If you've listened to anything that the Al Queda network has said, and what all the other anti-U.S. groups have said, it is our constant involvement in their lands that make them attack us. ?While it would be good if they could do this diplomatically, they don't. ?I support a war against the terrorists, but I also feel we must take a long look at how we act in the world to help prevent further irritation.

Actually, just a note about scholarships. Only about 5% of scholarships are based upon educational merit.

Of course, as you are so educated, you knew that and were only making an inside joke! Excellent, Ass.

5% of scholarships are a direct result of sexual favors towards well connected alumni.

The above comment was brought on by the idea of Ace in a speedo.

Ace u need some more swimming training.
500 yds in -5 minutes.....cmon.....my weight is almost 100 Kg (muscles and fat) and im faster than you.  ;D
....making surf in a sea filled with blue and white sharks makes u faster..eheheh

"Go back to hell u overgrown fish from hell!!!!"

Scholarships in general doesn't mean much.  I have a scholarship here at Northern Colorado.  It is only 1,000 and only for the first year.  This isn't much of a scholarships, but it does give me the privlidge to say I have a scholarship.  The only acedemic scholarship that really means anything is if you get a full ride.  I was about 70th in class rank in high school and would guess that 120 of my graduating class could have gotten the same automatic scholorship as I did.  Therefore it means very little.  What type of scholarship do you have Ace, one that is relitively insignificant or a very large one.  Anyway, despite what my class rank says I would argue that I was in the top 20 in actual intellegince, even if my GPA didn't show it.  I didn't take AP classes and Honors classes to boost my ranking, I took a variety of classes to broaden my mind.  Here at my college I'm surrounded by people who just want to get grades and not knowledge.  I almost agree with Bander on the uneducated part because most american college students don't learn much from college.  In European colleges, if I know correctly, most people don't attend because college isn't for everyone, even though that is what people in america are being told.

My scholarship is a Dean's scholarship awarded specifically by the Engineering School. It's 25% of tuition, which is a sizable chunk. (I got other assorted scholarships from high school but they only amount to about $5k altogether) I'm not going to mention the 35 grand a year they give me for speedo modeling... oops, did I say that aloud? And Bondo, I'm actually taking a Poli Sci course this semester, but it's on American courts and public policy. The rest of your post belongs in a different thread, where I will proceed to tell you that when you make such an ignorant and offensive statement as you did, I will not bother reading the rest of your eurotrash drivel. (I know you ain't European, but you sure as hell act and think like one)

And yeah Ebola, that ain't that fast, but that was my time from my junior year in high school. If I had trained throughout my senior year instead of increasing my drinking and getting a girlfriend, I probably would have hit 4:40 or so. Oh well, I hated swimming. I only did it for water polo, the sport of kings.

I love Dean's scholarships.......i mean i never got one or anything...... but its cool to have a scholarship named after your real name!!!!. I figured i would break the tension by acting stupid. Weeeeeeee

Ace, two things.

Number one, Bander didn't appologize to me either.  So you are not alone.  The really shitty part is I actually defended they guys opinions (back before all his stereotyping and rants... you know, when he was actually making a point)

Number two, it better have been junior high that you broke 5 mins in the 500.  I think I was 12 or 13.  Then again, you didn't get your schlorship in swimming.... I did.  (Ok, but I didn't drink a drop until college... but I didn't give up the girls).

Blackie, guess your post here goes to show that if you hit a jackass over the head with a shovel often enough, it'll eventually listen.  Let me borrow that shovel back.

You call me and Bander's points (the viable stuff, not his stereotyping) Eurotrash or whatever.  That is no worse than your blind allegience to the flag.  Sure, I guess you should say, oh, I need to be perfect american citizen and feel that our country rules and I would want to live in no other country and the the government is doing what is best.  But then again you would have to be in denial to be like that but hey, most americans are in denial so why change now.  Of course what I'm saying now is unpatriotic so it must be a bunch of offensive bull so you can continue to ignore it.

Bondo.... who are you talking to?

Sorry, I'm talking to Ace, I guess I should state that.

*smiles and remembers why he deceided to get out of these discussions.* ;)

GRIFT, good for you about the swimming. Like I said, I hated swimming and only did it for water polo. I was a 2m def and I could counter most of those big ugly hole sets so that was enough for me.

"with "the FAT uneducated americans" i meant, are ACE and BLACKHAND"
That's what I was referring to about Bander's apology. I know he still owes one hell of an apology for his other stuff.

Bondo, blow me. You can go on and on, but if you said something like "America brought this on themselves" you are full of shit. No civilian ever brought this on themselves. Until I hear something else from you, I will consider you below my reading and not worth my time.

hehe.... Ace, if you won't take the time to read.... how will you know if he says something worthy.....:o.  We've had the water polo discussion before.  I only played that as an aside to my swimming back then (high school / college).  We didn't have a real water polo team at my university.. just club.... so I left that and started playing rugby instead... one of the few games more violent and gut wrenching then water polo (imho).

Bondo, while your thoughts have merrit... your inflamitory statements detract from them a bit.... I'll take you to mean that the US has been lucky to have escaped this violence these long years of peace that we've had... not that we had it coming...... at least, I hope that's what you meant.  I could be wrong.

I never said the people who were killed deserved it or anything of that nature.  I said that the U.S., through it's foreign policy, pissed the people off enough to commit acts of terror.  I do not support the terrorists.  I feel the U.S. does have a bad foreign policy in many ways and that it should be protested by the other countries such as the Middle Eastern ones, but they should protest diplomatically, not violently.  I hope this clearifies things so that you can see where I'm coming from.

Bondo, I know what you are saying, and where you are coming from.  I agree with some of it.... I think our forign policy is part of what pisses of some people... and I think that some people just always need a target... and who better then the "fat, rich, americans".

The point I was trying to make (which is the same point I was trying to make with Bander, which brought upon a heap of insults) is that the message can get lost in the text sometimes.  Leading with such a strong statement (visions of 120pt bold news paper headlines about "Mars Attacks" talking about a meteor shower) can often encite an emotional response.... and usually does.  Saying things like we brought it upon ourselves (not a quote at all.... but how most people probably *heard* it)... makes people see red... not read some valid points that followed.  

To give you another example... Bander made some great points early on.  But once he got pissed and wrote  so many of the messages that Blackie posted at the begining of this thread... people just stopped listening to the important messages, only hearing the insults he was throwing.  I'm gulty of it as well... and I've noticed when I've done it, I don't often get an intelligent comment regarding the points I was trying to make, but instead a reaction to the tone in which it was delivered.

So, what I'm trying to say is, your thoughts are very valid, your opinions seem to be well thought.... but with the emotion running high, nobody here seems to be able to talk about it without fucking up, getting angry and pissing others off in the process.

All that said, I still don't agree with you on some points... but that's ok.... we aren't all supposed to agree on everything.  So take this as what it is... advise that how you say something can be as important as what you mean.

Heyas -

To Bondo: In my (stupid) european eyes u are a very patriotic american (also when others will deny this by taking ur arguments as "insults"). But i think: If people honestly think about the doings of their goverments and (if necassery stand up and say: NO! stop!) - this is freedom for me - to not be ruled from some "almightys" - if the people stop taking their right for free speech - what happened to true democracy then? I am really a fanatic - a fanatic democrat (not meaning the political direction - i mean the basically concept for what it stands). Austrian politicans do also a lot of stupid things (among good things) but the consequences on what "we austrians" do arent that BIG than a superpower can cause em. Its the reponisibility of people like bondo in every strong nation to keep them strong in future too. this is MY opinion. c?mon give me names ... ;)

To the education systems in euroland:
In europe most schools, colleges and studys are all one like the other. (sure there are also exceptions). this means u dont have to send ur kids to a "better" high school - u just have to take the one next to where u live.
Due to our (expensive but worthy) social systems here - most of your costs for schools and studys are paid by the goverment. (From social taxes). So also "poorer" euros can send their kids into the same shools like the "richer" people. and for some reason euros permanently discuss (and inform themselves) about world politics. (this was a report for bondo from the eurolines).

Ace: lol - apologizing to u? for what reason?
I apologized to Black for my ungentle personal cursing on him  during some stressed times (we could argue for long here now - who started it - but blabla). I was VERY surprised for that "bander" thread of him - really cool blackhand ;) much respect for that cool step.

but hey man (ace) - about the swim-time: why do u get so upset when some guys here mock on that time. (ur problem seems to be u always have to be the best). its not a bad time - and we dont have imminent need fow a swim-champion here. i must say i know some smart guys here who CANT even swim ;)

better concentrate back on me ace - u didnt call me asshole the last few post. grifter - u always claim "i defended those people etc. etc.". lets end this. u think im an idiot - i think same of u. I remember really good what u called me during our "discussions" here. so just lets say: ignore each other. iff poss. this would be very cool for all i think.

bondo: scout for a save plane and then move ur ass over here to vienna u cowboy - so we can quarrel a littlebit about politics, then go out and drink loads of austrian-beer followed by clubbing time and a chillout afterwards ;) (and so on and so on - euro style man!).
i think u would like it ;) -

(funniest would be if u take postal with u hehe - that would ROCK! the most explosive damn mixture (bondo and post, who sometimes dont check what a awesome team they make too - hehe) on their way to vienna! ha!)
remember: once u re here NEVER climb into a red VW-GTI whos owner founded a clan named *DAMN ;)

btw. i am stoned (i am the reason to not smoke pot - someone said. i must deny hehe (obvously, had a hard day at work and DESERVED that - btw. i am STILL at work - all alone. just me and my friend Ubada - a very cool palestinian dude) - but its really hard to keep your english together in that state of chillout ;)

ahm - and what would fit better than a
love, luck and peace on earth now?

just one thing:

lol

Moment. One important thing - also for the records bondo dude:

this is what u said:

"...but I think our government's insistance in attempting to Americanize the entire world brought it on..."

and this is how our nice translator-machine "ace" turned it around now:

"...you said something like "America brought this on themselves" you are full of shit. No civilian ever brought this on themselves."

no comment

grifter - u always claim "i defended those people etc. etc.". lets end this. u think im an idiot - i think same of u. I remember really good what u called me during our "discussions" here. so just lets say: ignore each other. iff poss. this would be very cool for all i think. - Bander

Well Bander.. glad you have kept your trend of not listening to me at all.... I never said you were an idiot, nor do I think it. ?I happen to think you are pretty smart. ?However, I also think you are a hypocrate asshole. ?I've gone back and read "our discussions"... have you?? ?It all started when I thought you were getting a bit emotional... and tried to calm you down.... telling you that I'm losing respect due to insults you threw at americans in general. ?You then threw more at me.... just for telling you I don't like your stereotypes (the fat americans that don't know what goes on 10 blocks away... looking for the next Burger King). ?

So you just find whatever it is that you think I called you... and read back to the post I'm responding to.... ?Then I'll consider your words of letting it rest... and if you aren't smart enough to read those posts and see for yourself what I'm talking about (or show me what you are talking about) then fuck off... you are just another little man that has to be right. ?So you tell me if you can, what did I ever say that was so idiotic? ?But you wont... because you wont be bothered to do so. ?In the meantime, I'll just continue to post my opinions on everything, including you, as I please.

Oh, and yes, I do claim that I defended your opinions... in fact... I can read the posts right here... so why the hell shouldn't I state that fact?  The shame of it is, you are smart enough that I'd enjoy talking to you, if you weren't such an arrogant ass.  I tried to talk this over with you.... I'm trying here again.  Doesn't seem like you are interested in intellegent conversation...

Well Bander, the invitation sound great but I don't think it will be happening for a few years.  Maybe I'll have to spend a summer in Europe sometime for "educational" purposes and I can fly over there on my education fund rather than my hardly earned money.  And BTW, I do mean hardly earned instead of hard earned.  ;)
Anyway, after I graduate from college in 3.5 years I am strongly considering calling myself and expatriate and moving to England (or possibly another Euro country but England is most likely due to my monoligualism.)  If that was the case I'd definately have to take a vacation in Austria to meet all you DAMN guys.

So Bondo, why the wish to become an expatriate?  And why England?

This is not a mock.... the reason I ask is because I'm purchasing a cottage over in Canada right now... and thinking about the merrits of moving over there full time... if it wasn't for the pay and the taxes over in Canada, I'd probably move to Toronto... but as it is, I like my 58cents to the dollar exchange rate and getting paid in US Dollars.  But of all the big cities I've visited (all the top 20 plus in the US, plus London, Kolon, Paris, Sao Palo, Sidney) I think I'd like to live in Toronto the most.  I like the change of seasons, being on a Great Lake (that's the Michigan boy in me) the more relaxed attitude of Canada (over the US).  Also, Toronto is one of the cleanest bigger cities I've seen.

I'd like to go to Liverpool because I've become a big futbol fan of theirs, but I woudn't mind Canada I suppose.  About the expatriate part, it is just more fun to consider yourself one than not in my case.  I don't know if there is an official filing to become one or not.  The biggest problem I would have moving anywhere but in the U.S. is that I'm somewhat of a selective eater.  I eat simple things but they may not be easy to find in other coutries and also, I've heard that food isn't as safe to a degree outside the U.S. because we have the strictest standards (Go FDA)

Bondo, when in doubt, go to a jewish deli and eat Kosher.... very high standards.  Ok, this won't do you much good in the middle east... but in most of Europe, you'll be able to find them.

Also, I forgot to mention the number one reason I might move to Canada... I once said that if Bush got elected....

I might have made a if Bush got elected I would do something, but I didn't want any others elected either so what can you do.  Now if I was president, all of you would be moving to Canada, well except for the pot smokers, semi-isolationists, and other radical thinkers.

Don't you just hate pants? Let's all burn our pants.

Yes, if I was president, it would be boxers and t-shirts for everyone.  Except hot girls, they would be naked...smack... ok, upon second thought, the hot girls can wear whatever they want as it is better to have fully dressed hot girls than no hot girls.

Grifter: I didnt say "stop discussing" here (i am not the one who forbids discussions) i said: stop "discussing" with me. and i added "please".

So talk with everyone about what u like but its senceless to keep up "our" discussion ... i am stuffed to read cursewords in any of your post that is adressed towards me. Shall i really sum up here again what u called me? (some of u like to "compare" postings here, dragging them totally out of contex to make em appear different than meant. So - this is NOT my way of discussion or argumentation. And i will not list up the hundrets of new learned cursewords (in english) here - that u called me. Its not cuz i will not "bother me" - its just to avoid getting VERY pissed at u again. So i prefer a status of "ingnoring each other" (Grifter/myself)

Whenever i watch news from the war in afghanistan  i still remember my discussions with some people on this board here ... and when i see the pictures of these refugees and compare them to what i "heared" here sometimes im just ANGRY! But consider that as a statement of an afghan - so ignore it.

Bander, forgive me for being unclear.  You asked me not to continue directing posts at you.  When I said I would continue to post what I please, it specifically meant that if I feel like directing a post towards you, I will.

Why.... because I feel falsely accused by you.  You accuse me of saying all these aweful things, yet I've gone through the posts... I see your name calling right there in the begining.  I've asked you to re-read them... I've asked you to tell me what was so offensive... you wont.  I don't care why you wont, but you wont.  You say it's because that's not the way to argue.. or debate these things... fine, bring forth some logic to your arguments I say.  Part of logic is a premise.... proving or disproving this premise is the next step in logic...  you know, if p, then q; not p; therefore not q.  The reason I call you a hypocrate is because you started the insults.. and the anti american posts... and then get mad as say we aren't discussing it when you get jumped on for doing it.

So, while you leave the insult hanging in my face... implying that I'm a liar... this continues to piss me off.  What am I guilty of... as far as I know, I'm guilty of throwing stereotypes back in your face, as you threw them in ours.  I'm guilty of calling you an hypocrate asshole (doh.. because that's what I've seen here..) but I've backed my arguments with what you've actually written.  You call me an idiot without anything to say, only that you haven't forgotten what I said.  

Well again I say, GO BACK AND READ IT.  If you are as smart as you think you are, you have to wonder if you could be wrong.  Nobody really smart is arrogant enough that they wont check their facts (even if it has to be in private, so nobody knows... they have to be sure).  I think you are mistaken in your beliefs that I attacked you.  I think I defended myself, using your own metephors and imagery against your arguments.  If you don't want to post them out of context... you can at least give reasons and examples.

As for freedom to speak... well, you have to remember that doesn't include a few things... like yelling fire in a crowded theater or SLANDER

So, as long as I feel insulted by you, I will continue to post whatever remarks I feel are appropiate towards you.  No, you asking please does not move me enough, since my personal sense of honor is offended.

wow, that want over my head but I have two words for everyone
Forgive
Forget

If we can't do that after our little quarrles, then we are no good.

and you guys think I'M crazy for wanting to bury this thread?

bander, grift has a point. it was the same one i was trying to make before we made up, i don't think we've said some of things you've accused us of.

grift, pride can get in the way of progress. sometimes you have to let things go. maybe this is the fresca talking, but does it really matter to you what a guy from across an ocean posts about you on a forum visited mostly by computer geeks who are under the legal limit from alcohol, sex, and driving?

and as for the computer geeks comment, i'm one. so is mort. so is everyone here and that isn't a bad thing.