*DAMN R6 Forum

Ok MP5, you battle all the weaker clans for points(no offence to anyone I hope) and now sit on top waiting...for what? Im calling you out. BoC formally challenges you to a clan battle before the start of the finals. I see you lost twice to stronger clans, core and MP....is that why we have yet to see a challenge from you guys?? Come on, Nut up and lets get to it.

Ok, I'm going to speak from my personal point of view only. Not Myst. Not 5150. Not Typhy. Me.

Second: This is to everyone that has asked MP5 for a cb in the past month.

 OK SAR?! EIGHT?!



When the Battle League first started, I was anxious to get to the cb's. But I saw that no one else was really cbing. So what'd MP5 do? We cb'd everyone once to try to jump-start the ladder. Don't say we were just cbing "noob clans" to get points, because each win was a mere 50-60 something points. And yes, we lost to some respectable clans, and beat many others?But just because we lose to some of the better clans, we get accused of being afraid of the good ones, and therefore never cb anyone else again?

Take a look at the ladder. There are 22 clans signed up to play raven shield. There have been 47 cb's played.

Forty-seven. That makes MP5 responsible for over 20% of the cb's played. Then what? No one else cb's each other, except for the occasional cb between c|. WHY DON'T YOU GUYS TRY CBING SOMEONE ELSE FOR A CHANGE. STOP PRETENDING THAT MP5 IS THE ONLY CLAN OUT THERE, SO IF YOU CAN'T CB US, YOU CAN'T CB ANYONE. Ridiculous.

Now, I have quite a bit going on in my life at the moment, and I'll be getting home from school between 7-10 for the next two to three weeks. That really doesn't leave much time for Raven Shield.

And the last reason that I myself have not been doing very much cbing?

MY FRAMERATES ABSOLUTELY SUCK.

Now, there's been this whole thing with 10.3.3 bringing expected framerate increases of 20-30 FPS, which would make the game more than playable for me, and it would give me a fighting chance at winning.

But until I get home at a decent hour, and I can get my framerates up to a decent level, and I start caring more about the game, I just won't be cbing.

End of story. If you want an additional explanation from Typhy, you'll have to wait for him to reply to this thread, or ask him on gameranger.




NOW EVERYONE STOP ASKING ME FOR A FUCKING CB.

I still <3 vood, though.  ;)

I hear ya snipe....but the point is that clans will always want to battle the clan thats at the top, which is MP5 at the moment. I find it, and Im sure most of the community finds it a little selfish of MP5 just to disapear off the ladder for a month not giving any other clans a shot at the clan thats on top. If you guys dont want to cb then maybe you guys should take MP5 to inactive status.

Just a thought.

I just had my moment of zen. I think I know where some of the problems are coming from.

People are so used to the huge clans being on top.
Also, there are a whole bunch of huge clans out there now. To name a few:
BTs, MP, z][t, MoD.

MP5 has a mere 4 members. We simply cannot satisfy the demands of cbing constantly. Clans such as BTs could have half their clan go inactive, and still have enough for three different cb's at one time.

So keep that in mind, everyone. MP5 is 4 people. Four people, three time zones. It's difficult enough having enough people online at one time to get a cb started, but then it has to be convenient for each person in the clan.

Maybe some of you in your bigger clans should do a little test. Choose four people in your clan, and say that only they can cb together. See how easy it is to get a bunch of cb's done then.

(Btw, I know that was a weak example for BoC, but it was an example for everyone else)

Good, because I was about to remind you how many members where in BoC.  ;D

 Early this season, we were turned down about 400 times. ( |c and BTs accounting for about 200 of those, including both turning us down when both had 10+ members on ). No one wanted to CB, so, like Snipe said, we CBed everyone who was willing. These CBs incude losses to both Core and MP.

Who was the first and only clan to take MP up on their challenge?

We're a 4 man clan. I've been turned down numerous times by clans saying "we only do 4v4 and bigger". It's incredibly hard for us to have 4 guys on. We've got 2 guys on the East Coast, one on the West Coast, and me in Alaska. 3 different time zones. 11:00 my time, which is when I usually get time to do things like play RvS, is 3:00 AM for Myst and Snipe. When you've gotta get up at 6:00 for school, then that's far from easy.

Most importantly, lives take prioirty over Raven Shield. I skied from 9-4 Thrusday through Saturday, and 12-4 Sunday. Today, I had school, and tons of homework and makeup work from skipping thursday and friday.

I haven't played more than about 2 rounds of Raven Shield sense mid Febuary. Why not? The skiing's been great, had a soccer tournament going on, and been doing shit with friends.

If we were CBing weak clans, but turning down challenges from strong clans, then you'd have a right to complain. We're not. We're not taking challenges from anyone.

Please, just give me a fucking break, we may start CBing again sometime, we may not. Just give it a rest. There are plenty of clans out there.  

We actually like to work as a team and try to avoid CB's of only 2v2, the only offer we ever received from -MP5-.

Well, as we said, having a 4-man clan, it's extremely difficult to even do a 3v3. 2v2 is about the biggest we get most of the time.

Well, we tried to get one set up but for some reason it didn't work out the first time with MP5, I'm guessing the guys are ready at any time for a cb. I too dislike 2v2's. I think 4v4 is optimal, 3v3 is great too.

Doest this mean you all are going to turn BoC down because we only have 2 members?

Come on gents, a cb is a cb is a cb....

Crypt you silly retard... uh... I mean... yah.

Didn't we just make it clear that we're NOT ready quite yet for a cb?

Me and typhy havn't played in a mooooonth.

Try not playing for a month while we practice up a bit, and then we'll cb. Ok?

I dunno, snipe, sounds like good ole' fashioned cowardice to me.  ;)

Spetz, just some facts for you:

|c has 13 people.

MP5 has 4 people.

The equal of having 3 MP5 members on is having 10 ( 9.75 rounded ) |c members on.

Even the equal of having 2 members of MP5 on is having 6.5 |c on.

Imagine if you were expected to have at least 10 members on for each CB. Things would be a bit harder, don't you think?

lol Alaric, unlike 99% of the people on this forum, I can tell when you're baiting others for a fight.  ;)

Typhy,

I don't think Spets was saying that M5P needs to have everyone on all the time.  I think he was just saying that we don't like 2v2s, they aren't nearly as much fun for us.  Nothing more, nothing less.

And Voodoo, if all you have is 2 members, then yes, most likely you won't find too many c| members that will want to CB.  We all play this game to have fun, right?  Well for c|, working in large groups is what makes this game fun.  Maybe it's cause we're originally a GhR clan, but we like to incorporate some sort of team tactics.  In my opinion, 2v2s are just too boring and too random.

You guys like your CBs small, we like em big.  It's just a matter of personal taste.

I think most of the MP guys would have to agree with c| on this one. Small cbs require less complex team tactics and leave you much more vulnerable to random chance, campers, etc.

We try not to cb less than 4v4 and prefer to go even larger. We will absolutely not cb a 2v2.

BTs wants to cb MP5 .... since you guys (Typhy) setup the day and then (again) backs out of it... how bout giving BTs a piece of that 1st place? or are we not noobed enough?

ok guys this is good fun...

U guys complain about MP5 not cbing...but is MP5 the only clan to CB? Ok, i agree, they are 1st and everyone wants to play them. But, they havent got that many points so u can step up to them with cbing other clans.

The good thing is, if MP5 isnt 1st anymore im sure that they will start cbing again  ;D

O, and if you like good competition (not only 2v2) try to ask RnT, i think i asked a few of you to cb, we couldnt get any...we can play up to 6v6 if you like!

Ye and Core is a good competition too...(or mb too good?)

 Core was great fun, but next time, Kinetic, the pleasure will be all mine. ;)

Eight, even if I were CBing, I'd still hesitate to CB BTs, mostly because it's a clan made up of some of the biggest assholes I've ever met ( no offense to guys like Harvey ).

I have no problem with 4v4s, aside from the fact that people seem to have some delusion that if they're the only one alive, and the oponent has 4 guys searching for them, they've got the right to camp.

As I said, though, it's very hard to do 4v4s or even 3v3s when you've only got 4 players.


God'am, you know me too well, Abs. ;)

Chances are we'lll start CBing again if we lose the #1 spot. Why? Is it because I really care so much about the difference between first and second? No. It's because I'll have a reason to CB. A reason to start playing the game again.

Splinter, I understand what you're saying. However, I still don't understand your attitude. Is it that you consider 2v2s less fun than sitting on GR and talking, or playing in normal games? Or is it that you haven't practiced for 2v2s at all, so you're not confident that you'd win? I would think that if you really are just in it for the fun, like you say, then you'd be willing to do 2v2s.

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I know we have several guys itching to do some RvS cbs... if any of you folk fancy it give us a shout :D

Yes, Typhy, I honestly would rather play in a regular game than do 2v2s.  At least in regular games, I can connect to a group of other c| members, and we all can go into a room and basically practice 4v4, 4v5, or 4v6.  And actually we practice in plenty of 2v2 situations.  Whenever there are 4 of us on we often do 2v2 practice.  But as a clan, it's not what we focus on. And these days, I don't really care if I win.  I spent 3 seasons CBing constantly, trying to get every win we could.  Now I just want to come online and have fun.    Getting online with a group of my friends, and chatting it up and laughin is what makes it fun.  When it's just 2...not as much fun.

It's just personal taste Typhy, we don't all have to think the same way.  Just like you don't like GhR, I don't like small cbs.

 I have no problem with that, Splinter. If you'd really rather play in regular games than do 2v2 CBs, then that's completly your choice, and I can respect that. It's also harder when you've got 4 people who've known eachother for 3 years on NF. Gives us plenty of things to argue about. I can't remember a CB this season where we haven't gotten into an argument or "discussion" about something on NF while we're suppose to be helping the person(s) who are still alive. ;)

My biggest problems with big CBs:

??Harder to find decent hosts.

??Less teamwork, due to trying to work with more people on Netfone. I'm sure the clan's who's teamwork is based more upon what I might consider camping would think different. Personally, I find that it's much easier to assign 2 rushing points than to assign 4 or 5. I'm sure it's just the oposite for clans who actually "move as a team".

??Lower framerates for people on lower-end machines.

??Incrased lag.

??More of a hassle to setup.

? Takes longer.

? Increased chances of running into campers.

I'm sure there are lots of people out there who think just the oposite. Personally, the things that bug me most in RvS are getting killed because I run around a corner and my computer freezes, or drops to 1 FPS for about 3 seconds. The difference between having 4 people in a game and having 12 is about 25 FPS for me. That's a pretty big difference. Also, getting killed by campers, nothing more annoying than running into a clan who's spent the entire round at assorted posistions near their spawn, or indoor "snipers".

I hate long CBs. As Abs can tell you, I get inpatient quickly. Once I challenge a clan to a CB, I want to be playing within 2-3 minutes. I don't want a dicussion about it. When you live in Juneau Alaska, and your ISP ( how gay is this? ) just cut your upload from 256kbps to 128kbps, ( while charging me the same amount, I might add ), lag and the amount of people on NF is an important thing.

For these reasons, I perfer the better framerates, less lag, and less confusion of smaller CBs.

Ok cool....

so my problem typhy is.... You have a life fine... you setup a cb for RvS fine... you couldnt make it becuase of some stupid soccer tournament... FINE

But did you find out about the soccer tournament the day before? I mean setup a cb and then not tell anyone about it not happening till a week after?

Then your excuse is were a bunch of assholes? why becuase i agreed with you when u said sar is a retard? and then i said all of mp5 are retards?

MY ISSUE WITH YOU IS THAT EVERYONE CAN BE WRONG BUT WHEN IT COMES TO YOU OR MP5 YOUR A FUCKING BUNCH OF ANGELS....

According to the rules? Since typhy setup the cb and didnt show... shouldnt we get the win?


I hate to win like that.... but Typhy you got it coming with your crappy additude.....

This is getting fucking ridiculous.

Admins, please lock any more public threads toward MP5.

If they want to speak with us, they may do it in a private message.

BUT THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR

I want to add that this message was posted after eight had started ANOTHER thread. (merged threads) However, my post still stands. Anymore MP5-cbing-related threads should be locked.

Eight, get the fucking fuck over it, you fucking brainless prick. Are your socials skills really so lacking that you think that annoying me will make us CB you? What the fuck is your problem anyway?

My thoughts on this are simple, just fucking cb.

Crypt, try fucking reading.

Sorry I wasn't here sooner. I see the logic in your request snipe.(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/adminowns.gif)

I think BoC will get the last laugh when we make the finals. The other teams will have to 2 vs 2 us.  :o