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Hello Dudes,

I have one question, is there any really noticable speedboost in Games or Apps with the double G5?

Do I really need the second processor?

What I do on the mac:  gaming, Office, some Perl programming, watching DVDs, Internet, Webdesign, and CAD for my work ( hopefully AutoCAD comes out for Mac ) And a few other things.

At the moment I dont have to do anything with Video editing, or 3D Rendering.


B/C I think of buying a G5 - but I am not really sure whichone I should buy.
The single G5 with SD and lot of RAM, or the standard 2xG5 1.8.

So what would you do? get the sigle with good Grafixcard and lots of RAM or a standart  double.

dont buy ram afom apple.. you can find it cheeper elsewhere.. I had same debate.. i went w/ dual 1.8.

It is nice that U have the dual :-) --- but is there any real use for the second prozessor?  Any noticable boost in work, or gaming.

What I have seen on PC, the speed boosts mostly came from the better grafixcards.

What connfiguration do u have? Grafix? RAM? SD or COMBO?

for gaming you won't need the second cpu, because there are hardly any games that use it. Quake 3 and games based on its engine come with dual support, and it really boosts fps. but most games don't use the dual. ut2k3 e.g. uses it only for the audio thread, and thats about 4% (correct me if i'm wrong) of the total load. RS, GhR ... don't use it.

other programs make more or less use of dual cpu's, like the finder (sic!).

but the question which one to buy remains. at which price would you get the single 1.8? depends on the price, but maybe for gaming the single 1.8 with a Radeon 9800 would be the best combo.

Elan

I will get the G5 1.8 single for arround 1800 EUR - and later I will buy a ATI 9800PRO for it. that makes  1800 + 500 = 2300

? 1800 with or without taxes? anyway, thats a very good price. Where can you get it at this price?

1879 ? already includes the taxes.

I also get "free shipping"

www.mactrade.de

wow. get it! =)

Elan

shit! I got the wrong price!

1939.00 ?  thisone is correct

( 1800 ? were for the 1.6 G5 )

can't you get the 3% edu discount?

If you are thinking about the long haul, get the dual 1.8, no questions asked. OS X is very good at taking advantage of multiple processors, so the dual 1.8 will have a much longer lifespan than the single 1.8. You can always add more RAM or change the GPU later.

I thought about it -

And I ordered the G5 1.8 single  - NOW  will be at home on Friday I hope.

Mactrade gives 6%, but I am no longer on aducation - thats the problem

sweet, finally a topic that doesn't start with "who is the"

Acording to the recent macaddict magazine there is no difference between the 9600 and 9600 in a dual 1.8ghz G5 for gaming. However i've seen otherwise on different sites.

You will want to begin giving blood, semen and organs to raise money for ram if you want to play games.

Sorry Jeb, But  I did not get the point of your post!

Maybe its my bad english!

He made a spell fault: He wanted to say "there is no difference between the 9600 and 9800 in a dual 1.8ghz G5 for gaming".

I would also leave the graphic card in it at the moment and only upgrade RAM for the moment to 1.5 Gig(2 512MB RAM slots aren't that expensive anymore).

Viel Spa? und willkommen zur?ck in der Mac Spielewelt ;)

Mauti

Speaking of which... where the fuck is mine? I hope my subscription isn't up...
Never got a magazine in December.

Danke Mauti, ich hoffe dich auch bald wieder zutreffen.

Werde dir was vom n?chsten Monatslohn zukommen lassen.


YEA Mauti, I will put in some more RAM. And stay with the FX CARD for the moment, and upgrade it later.

Any of you guys have any intel on G5 speed bumps. I was hoping to read about news of a G5 dual 3ghz after the keynote but only heard about the xserve G5.

G5 speed bumps by the end of January. Not to 3ghz, but an intermediate step.

I have to say I feel kicked in the sac by Apple. I stupidly took advantage of the Refrub Single G5 1.8. It arrived yesterday and was dead out of the box. Its been a long time since I've gotten that pissed at an inanimate object, as I nearly launched the gigantic tower out the window. I took it to the Apple Store and its covered by warranty, but I still feel betrayed by Apple. Check out the apple G5 forums under Support , you'll find numerous issues with the single 1.8, I wish I would have known this before I ordered the piece of shit, but hopefully it will come back in functional condition.

Yikes, I hope there isn't anything wrong with the single 1.8 G5 (I thought Apple came out with the dual 1.8 a little pre-maturely).  I havn't had any problems with mine yet, so I hope I didn't get a lemon in the long run.

It wasn't prematurely, apple never should have made the single 1.8ghz g5. Not to many people bought them to begin with, because it was an extra 400$ on 200mhz, pci-x, and 4 more slots for ram compared to the 1.6ghz. And it wasn't anything near the dual 2ghz machine in terms of power.

The single 1.8 was a nice machine before the dual came out. Compared to the 1.6, it has faster memory, PCI-X, and more room for RAM. Also, Apple was able to sell a bunch of dual 2's to people like myself who wanted a new PowerMac but would only go for a dual processor machine.

The only prob w/ getting the 9800 pro not from apple (installed when youi get your mac) is that the apple supplied 9800 is a 8x agp port card.... the one you get afterwards in a 4x agp port card.. I have had several places tell me that the 9800 pro (that they sell) in not compatible in the G5 fully yet b/c of this. If you dont mine waiting till ATI upgrades the 9800pro to support 8xagp.. then get the nvidia ir 9600,, if you mind waiing get the 9800 (this alsi holds true w/ getting the 9600 from a dealer other then it intalled in your camp when you get it)

now diff dual v single... Ghostsniper has a single and i have the dual g5's.. i have niticed that mine is a touch faster.. I load programs a little faster then ghost does.. other thn that i have not realy had the chance to compare them yet.

I think that the DUAL for 1.8 is useless for the most ppl.

They should have done 2 version of 1.8. the Sigle and Dual.

Most ppl dont need the Dual, but for those who need one, they would have done an alternative.

The guys at xlr8yourmac have tested the OEM Radeon 9800 and the Retail 9800 Pro, and have noticed no difference between them, despite the retail one only being a AGP 4x card. Link: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/Retail9800_vs_BTO_9800.html (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/Retail9800_vs_BTO_9800.html)

AGP 4 or 8 this is not a quation, b/c it doesnt give u any speedup!

B/c AGP 1 already has enough bandwith for most common games - the limit in former days was the RAM, it was expensive, so Companies developed a fast way ( AGP ) to transfaire DATA form RAM into GPU. They edvanced the AGP port. But with big amount of RAM on Grafkscards there is no more a need for AGP8 or even 4.

There is no game on the market that fully needs the AGP4.


PS: There are really some Apps that need AGPm but this arent games, and those APs noone of us will ever use.
Also, when you try to test the diffrence between the Speed u get out.
There will be like 0,1 - 0.5 % between AGP 2 and 8 - alsthough AGP 8 has more Bandwith. The Bottleneck is the GPU and it RAM.

I was just going on what has been told to me by several sources

Harvey it was nothing against you.

I just added here some info ABOUT the AGP Fake!  And that a GPU with with more fast RAM is better then a less RAM and higher AGP.

ALSO a better GPU with less RAM is better then a slower GPU with more RAM.

Ok, my G5 has been shipped, so it will arrive tomorrow or in two days ( Friday )  

OK  cya soon - comrads