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Well, by best I mean Best Trained.....also, after a day of voting I will tell you which one creates the Bravest soldiers.....the answer might suprise you.

Marines... it bothers me that you claim to have the answer and are so sure of yourself when you are asking an opinion question. And who are you to judge who creates the bravest soldiers?

I am the guy that has trained and served with every unit listed.

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That still doesn't mean you can judge who produces the bravest soldiers.

Good grief, does everyone have to argue!  I havn't even said "who" yet!

Let me guess: "All of them because they are American." Seems like a ghostsniper answer to me ;)

Um, No.  And it might also suprise you that most of the members of the military in those other units will tell you the same thing I am gonna tell you later.

these topics suck

 Ok im editing my own post for flaming. Appologies i think i must have either drank to much or just been in a bad mood. sorry [bfg]

Arent the british SAS soldiers considerd to be the "best" by many autoritys, even american.

Why yes they are, as a matter of fact.  I can speak from first hand experience having trained with them as well.  But if you want to vote for the British SAS, you have to go to my other poll.....

Indeed.  Let's start a "Which is the Best Special Op's Unit in Zimbabwe?" thread ASAP, so you don't feel left out.  You may not like the topic, but just because it's about the US?  Hmm...why don't you go start another topic about the country of your choice.

And who the fuck proclaimed they were.

Can we stop the US/Canada/"Euro"/<insert nation> bashing on this board, already?

You know what I dont care what people say about these threads I am just gonna vote and give my opinion on the matter because I consider myself somewhat informed on military issues.

My opinion would have to be the Green Berets. The Green Berets are the most intelligent out there and serve the most vital purpose. The Green Berets were constructed with the intent to use them to convert and train indigenous forces. If you are going to have an intervention in some nation it is a good idea you get the support of the populous and have a competantly trained populous. Green Berets are also widely used from a rescue mission in the Congo, to Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq, to Panama, to many small brushfire conflicts in Latin America. Green Berets have been there and have modernized allied infantry all over the world (some of these allied infantry units arent very humane such as the death squads in Nicaragua, but are well trained none the less).

Air force combat controllers weee....

Ghost i wouldnt be surprised if they banned you for making all these goddam polls. ;D

p.s. i think seals are the most trained unit of them all not the "Best"

Haz, pls stop complaining he will open another damn poll. ;)

First of all, you saying you have trained with them all including the SAS I think is a crock of shizzy, if you were that well trained and had that shit going on in your life you would definately not be here.

And it's a fact Delta force is the best. They are made up of the best of the best from those other groups. If you trained with them...still lmfao...you would have already known this.

LOL i hadn't noticed that bit.

"Bollocks" mate. Im sorry but we arn't stupid. There is NO WAY on earth you can have SERVED and trained with ever single force listed here. so you have served and trained the following?

 Army Rangers
 Army Special Forces (Green Berets)
 Delta Force
 Air Force Combat Controllers
 Air Force Pararescuemen
 Navy SEALS
 Marine Force Recon

Plus you have trained with the SAS?!

Im sorry i don't mean to laugh. I just don't believe it for a second.

Okay, for all of you idiots out there......I was a U.S. Army Ranger and later transferred into the U.S. Air Force where I served with Air Force Special Operations Command at Herbie.  As a Ranger, and later with the Air Force, I trained with nearly every Special Operations force in the WORLD (what, you people don't think that other country's military units don't train with the United States???).  So YES, I trained and served (in peacetime) with the Green Berets, Delta Force, Air Force Combat Controllers and Pararescuemen, Navy SEALS, Marine Force Recon, British SAS, and even a few groups none of you have ever heard of.....THIS DOES NOT mean I was a MEMBER of those units, I simply served with them for short periods of time during training missions (the Special Op's forces of the world do in fact train with each other).

Now that I've enlightened you all, I need to get some work done (cause some of you can't get it through your head that just because I served 8 years in the armed forces, I AM NOT CURRENTLY in the military).

Consider yourself pwned.

Peace.

-GhostSniper Out.

What he meant was, he has trained and/OR served with all of them. And yes, it is a well-known fact that U.S., Canadian, U.K., and Australian special forces cross-train with one another. Probably a lot of other countries too, like Germany. Well, I guess I can't say the information is well-known, but if you watch a lot of History channel, or you're just well informed, you'd know.

Okay, the answer is......

The U.S. Air Force Pararescuemen.

These are the guys who jump into hell holes that every other special forces unit wants to get out of.  They are among the best trained military forces in the entire world, as they have to complete or go through parts of Airborne School, Ranger School, SEAL Training, Combat Medic School, Special Forces School, and several others.  To be a Pararescueman you have to be Jump Qualified, Scuba Qualified, Air Assault Qualified, HALO Qualified, Expert Medic Qualified, and you have to train in aerial gunnery.

One example of the bravery of these fine men is the Medal of Honor Citation for SRA William Pitsenbarger:

The President of the United States in the name of The Congress takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to

Pitsenbarger, William H.

Rank and organization: Airman First Class, U.S. Air Force
Detachment 6, 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron, Bien Hoa Air Base, Republic of Vietnam.  
Place and Date: Near Cam My, 11 April 1966.  
Entered service at: Piqua, Ohio.  
Born: 8 July 1944, Piqua, Ohio

Citation:
Airman First Class Pitsenbarger distinguished himself by extreme valor on 11 April 1966 near Cam My, Republic of Vietnam, while assigned as a Pararescue Crew Member, Detachment 6, 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron.  On that date, Airman Pitsenbarger was aboard a rescue helicopter responding to a call for evacuation of casualties incurred in an on-going firefight between elements of the United States Army's 1st Infantry Division and a sizable enemy force approximately 35 miles east of Saigon.  With complete disregard for personal safety, Airman Pitsenbarger volunteered to ride a hoist more than one hundred feet through the jungle, to the ground.  On the ground, he organized and coordinated rescue efforts, cared for the wounded, prepared casualties for evacuation, and insured that the recovery operation continued in a smooth and orderly fashion.  Through his personal efforts, the evacuation of the wounded was greatly expedited.  As each of the nine casualties evacuated that day were recovered, Pitsenbarger refused evacuation in order to get one more wounded soldier to safety.   After several pick-ups, one of the two rescue helicopters involved in the evacuation was struck by heavy enemy ground fire and was forced to leave the scene for an emergency landing.  Airman Pitsenbarger stayed behind, on the ground, to perform medical duties.  Shortly thereafter, the area came under sniper and mortar fire.   During a subsequent attempt to evacuate the site, American forces came under heavy assault by a large Viet Cong force.  When the enemy launched the assault, the evacuation was called off and Airman Pitsenbarger took up arms with the besieged infantrymen.  He courageously resisted the enemy, braving intense gunfire to gather and distribute vital ammunition to American defenders.  As the battle raged on, he repeatedly exposed himself to enemy fire to care for the wounded, pull them out of the line of fire, and return fire whenever he could, during which time, he was wounded three times.  Despite his wounds, he valiantly fought on, simultaneously treating as many wounded as possible.  In the vicious fighting which followed, the American forces suffered 80 percent casualties as their perimeter was breached, and airman Pitsenbarger was finally fatally wounded.  Airman Pitsenbarger exposed himself to almost certain death by staying on the ground, and perished while saving the lives of wounded infantrymen.  His bravery and determination exemplify the highest professional standards and traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Air Force.


The Motto of the Pararescuemen is:

"These things we do that others may live."

PJs pwn. Nuff said.

It is actually very possible that GhostSniper has trained with all the above units. Rangers do attend many types of advanced infantry schools which these other units also attend. This does not mean anything special really. It's similar to saying: "I went to high school with <insert celebrity name here>." It's also important for these units to practice working with each other so that there are as few problems as possible if they ever have to work together in the field someday.

While interesting and occasionally impressive, it's nothing really amazing. If he had served with (or even been downrange with) most/all of these units, I would be very impressed.

OK ok, i take it back Ghost. Appologies i miss interpreted what you were saying when u said you had served and traiined with with them - i read it as you sayind that you had "trained" them and had Served as a full member over a period of time...

I should really stop posting when im in a bad mood... its not good. Appologies

If you guys are a fan of the EcoChallenge, the US Armed Forces had a contest last year to see who would represent them.  Everyone from SEAL's to Marine Forced Recon were there.  PJ's kicked all their asses.

FYI, the Coasties didn't fare to bad either.  And should have been mentioned.

Maybe its so obvious that i shouldnt be asking....PJ's  ???

by coasties, do you mean coastguard, cuz they are the fucking kings of the land... interms of training and requirments. I know, only cuz ive done some lifeguarding, and the county and the coast work closley...

Coss, it was the C.I.A who trained these soldiers, from the late 70's all the way through afgan.

PJ's=P'Jocks=Pararescue Jumpers=Pararescuemen

Are you talking about Special Forces soldiers being trained by the CIA or the Indigenous Forces of those 3rd world countries being trained by the CIA?

Oh well, it dosn't really matter because you're wrong in either case. The CIA might also have operations in those countries but the main purpose of Special Forces is to train the Indigenous Foces of other countries.

only one of u is right DElta force pwns all, if ur at a book store pick up.....Inside Delta Force by Eric,L.Hanye these guys trained for at least like 8 years, the people in it are from all diffrent units around the world so its like the guys from the best units all rolled into one. If u read the part about the selection period.....126 people tryed out 12 people made it. Alot of them were special forces, seals para rescue men ect.

kings of the...sea?

lol....good point bronto.

Isn't this post "Which is the best unit?" not "which is the bravest?"

My vote: Navy S.E.A.L.s

Yes, this post is which is the best unit....best trained, most lethal, etc.

A side question was which unit trains the bravest soldiers.