Title: I want some brothers too... Post by: z][t-Magnetic on December 01, 2003, 08:53:14 pm It just came to my knowledge today, that Stripes has gained 840 points, so far, by beating two clans founded by his two smaller brothers. Hmmm...that?s kinda fishy if you ask me.
Especially as both *FeaR* and |K^C| have refused to cb us every time we have asked, except for one occasion where Stripes may not have been in the room to prevent it :) Just wanted everyone on the ladder to know. Mags Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on December 01, 2003, 09:19:56 pm Hey, that's a neat trick! Wish I would have thought of it....I could have my 4 year old daughter start a clan and then beat up on her! lol
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: z][t-Magnetic on December 01, 2003, 09:21:59 pm LOL...yeah...I have thought of signing up my daughter too...she?s 5...she can handle a SA80...
Mags Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on December 01, 2003, 10:00:13 pm This is actually pretty damn funny. Smart little bastards.
Oh well, eventually they have to CB. If they haven't played well enough to beat some competition by then, it will all work out. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Fridge! on December 01, 2003, 10:04:02 pm hehe, yeah i remember K^C asked us for a cb not knowing anything about our clan, then 5 mins later said the offer was revoked as his brother stripes had told him that we were really good. Whatever, you can't prove anything obviously and so there isn't much you can do to stop it, just take comfort in knowing that they can't be selective in the finals.
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Civrock on December 01, 2003, 10:20:39 pm hey,
we think it?s just a lil bit strange... both this clans refuse to cb good clans... both leaders said that. except one cb from us against |K^C| where Stripes wasn?t online... but somehow they don?t refuse to cb their brother?s clan which is currently 1st on the ladder. z][t-Civic EDIT: apart from that, his both brothers use the same GameRanger account. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Noto on December 02, 2003, 12:33:02 am Well, as long as those clans are not throwing the CB, everything is still sound according to the rules. Although, this is an extremely uncouth way to gain points.
.::|N| Noto Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Acri on December 02, 2003, 03:56:36 pm I think new rules might be in order:
All players from one household must be represented by one clan. All players from one household must have separate GameRanger accounts. A player from one household can not substitute another player from the same household without change of name. Nothing is really stopping stripes to play on his brothers' accounts though...He could veritably set up a cb for iN without him playing and then play as one of his brothers and lose the game on purpose. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Stripes on December 02, 2003, 03:57:52 pm Hey guys we aint only Cbing those clans.. and, its up to my >Brother who he cb's i dont care. and i didn't even cb vs FeaR... it was Fish and jalex...
we are also cbing everone else.. zt, nV, BTs, GM FeaR, devil, KC, TRibe , MoD, and there is many days left.. and it isn't a too little brothers ive got. it is a little bro and Paynemaker is 16 years old Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: KiLeR on December 02, 2003, 04:46:11 pm Can you Remove FeaR From all Ladders im LEaving it No members and nobody wants to join
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: .::|N| DIESEL on December 02, 2003, 05:28:56 pm Maybe there needs to be a Kiddie Ladder for some clans. Aw, how cute. ;)
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on December 02, 2003, 06:01:27 pm Yeah, a kiddie ladder! I like it! But don't any of you veterans come in a room with my 4 year old....she's deadly accurate with an OICW!!!
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: elite on December 02, 2003, 06:27:19 pm The only problem with those rules Acri are that it is hard to prove that they are brothers cbing each other in order to gain points. I mean sure you can check ip's but do you really want to do that with every person you suspect as being brothers. It would be pretty easy to get around those rules anyway.
Cheers, elite Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Da? Swiftkill on December 02, 2003, 09:24:35 pm LMFAO....look at this desperate attempt for points.....
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: cO.Kuza on December 03, 2003, 07:23:53 am Hey guys we aint only Cbing those clans.. and, its up to my >Brother who he cb's i dont care. and i didn't even cb vs FeaR... it was Fish and jalex... I think it's more of a matter that your clan has cb'd FeaR and K^C more than any other clan, not just specific cb'swe are also cbing everone else.. zt, nV, BTs, GM FeaR, devil, KC, TRibe , MoD, and there is many days left.. and it isn't a too little brothers ive got. it is a little bro and Paynemaker is 16 years old Kuza Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: PLOPje on December 03, 2003, 01:18:43 pm my i note that the last 2 matches played by iN vs Fear dont have players for fear
Title: We aint Cheating Post by: Stripes on December 03, 2003, 01:57:29 pm We are not Cheating, and The players was bigbang and KiL'Ler and i DIDN'T EVEN play vs em!!! it was jalex and Fish...!!!! i wasn't even there... !!!!
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: PLOPje on December 03, 2003, 07:24:34 pm err stripes you played vs fear atleast once
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Stripes on December 04, 2003, 03:51:16 pm Hi folks and clans
I am sorry for the account problems. It shoulndt have been this way, and was never meant to. We are a big family, with 3? brothers and 2? Macs. We have the following accounts: iN> Stripes: 76572 Payne Makers Account And KiL'LeRs: 132777 We only want to CB and have fun, so mb the DAMN-admins can solve whatever need to be solved on this matter, and we can get back to cb again. Whatever decision is made, we are OK with it, as long as we can just play and have a cool christmas here on Gameranger. // Stripes P.S. If anyone can help me on what to do, to solve the account prob in a serious and accepted way in the future, plz tell us. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: TError on December 05, 2003, 10:44:59 am That means that non of the cbs count, and that we cannot cb K^C? is that fair? i mean, i understand that it looks like its kinda cheating, but to let non of the cbs count. As far as know is K^C a "serious" clan, if u know what i mean. There by it sounds kinda crazy to me not to let any of them count. If its because of that u think that stripes was making K^C lose, then why dont u let the cb(s) that stripes didnt participated in count and remove the others.
I know that my opinion wont count for much since im a part of the clan, but i just think that it sounds kinda crazy removing so many cbs, and not letting us cb a clan that's in the top 10 in the team ladder. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: onwig on December 05, 2003, 11:22:33 am yeah i agree it kinda harsh to remove all those cb's, but at least better than to ban your clan from the BL all together.
you can always play those games again once you get those account numbers sorted ??? ??? Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Acri on December 05, 2003, 11:59:52 am Good point, wiggy!
When they have sorted it out, they can replay it! Although, I would still like a rule that puts all members of a house hold in one clan OR a rule saying you must inform admins before you sign up. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: onwig on December 05, 2003, 12:52:42 pm acri,
As far as i am concernd, the more peeps the more cb's, saying that all peeps from one household should be in one clan nah: a) is not fair to those peeps (i wouldnt want my bro or sis in my clan) b) i dont think there needs to be a rule, iN played those teams 4 times which is the limit of games, the only rule that needs to be there is there, (account number) Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: th.Sentinel on December 05, 2003, 02:02:49 pm Acri you prolly don't have any brothers or sisters to play in a clan so your point of view on this matter is not suited, I've got a brother, which plays not bad. But I'm not the one to tell him what he can or can't do, its his own choice.
He can join whatever clan he wants (well almost...). And if he has to ask for an admins aproval first well then that's fucked! The account number thing won't work either since lots of ppl know how to switch accounts. And for the matter of the point loss of iN>, that's fuckin BS! They loose 690 points that is way to much! It isn't fair to cut their points they played the cb's they will never get the same amount of points when they have to play em now. I think its strange that particullarly a member of z][t who is (or was) fighting for the first spot on the BL has to bring this up. Wasn?t this a problem in season 5? Winning points in the Forum! Its fucked! Its not fair and its BS they have to loose those points. Mb you guys should try winning in games and not on the forum, its just like that other thing where iN> won the unfinished cb and then the day after they finish it without even asking to the players who were in the cb. Just so they could get those points back they lost. The cb was finished for Marcyboy and to bad he didn?t take a screenshot, and to bad Civic is an admin, because its seams to me he can do wathever he wants like this. For me z][t just stole a lot of points from iN>, 690 + 300 = 990 points! That?s really nice... GL with the season boys you played it fair... I feel sorry for the youngsters of iN> they are good players and they earn the first spot on the ladder. You guys just fucked up the season from my point of view, tnx a lot. th.Sent Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Acri on December 05, 2003, 02:11:35 pm Sentinel:
You are wrong in about everything here. I never wanted iN to lose points. It wasn't my idea. I feel sorry for them too. All 3 brothers are ok people and I dont mind them playing at all, but I think a rule like the one I suggest could come at handy. imo, the danish brothers are totally ok now that everyone knows it. I wish them all the best of luck, ESPECIALLY my old CLAN MATE stripes. Neither have we been in forums once to get a win? We completed the unfinished cb 3-4 hours after it had ended. That's not very much. iN were the ones who chose to win for a technicality (bad mathematics from my team members). zt were the ones who wanted to settle it ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Sentinel, I can clearly see you have a lot of stored up aggresion towards me. Why dont we have a chat over nf and clear it out? As for Flies ruling: He is admin and does what he thinks is best, but I dont think taking 690 is the BEST solution. I'd rather see 0,1 warning points for each clan. Taking 690 points from them will leave us with a 1000 point lead... not funny. Also, Civic is not really involved in this issue as guide lines prevent him from handling his clan's matters. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: z][t-Magnetic on December 05, 2003, 03:09:24 pm I think its strange that particullarly a member of z][t who is (or was) fighting for the first spot on the BL has to bring this up. I didn?t bring this issue before the admins to "steal" points from iN>. I saw an irregularity and reported it. That?s it. I would have brought it up if it had been any another clan. I won?t comment on your anger...as I like you. Mags Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: th.Sentinel on December 05, 2003, 03:17:24 pm Sentinel: You are wrong in about everything here. I never wanted iN to lose points. It wasn't my idea. I feel sorry for them too. All 3 brothers are ok people and I dont mind them playing at all, but I think a rule like the one I suggest could come at handy. imo, the danish brothers are totally ok now that everyone knows it. I wish them all the best of luck, ESPECIALLY my old CLAN MATE stripes. I?m not wrong. I didn?t say you were the one that posted this thread but mb scroll back a page and take a look who started it. Second: your rule will only come in handy to start such threads like this one, ?hey I didn?t know he was his brother, did he say it to an admin? ... No, I don?t think so, lets go steal their points by letting them forfeit the cb?s they played!? BS! There is no need for such a rule, its just to bad you can?t proof Stripes manipulated his brother... So their is no proof to delete those wins. Neither have we been in forums once to get a win? Umm, what?s this then? Mb I stated myself wrong, to take other ppls points away. We completed the unfinished cb 3-4 hours after it had ended. That's not very much. iN were the ones who chose to win for a technicality (bad mathematics from my team members). zt were the ones who wanted to settle it ON THE BATTLEFIELD. First: z][t were the one that made the mistake! Second: iN> didn?t choose to win by techinicality they told magnetic! They wanted to finish the cb, so don?t put the blame on them! Third: Civic should have asked the players who were in the cb to continue the cb first! But he didn?t, he went straight to Stripes who didn?t know about the problem. Sentinel, I can clearly see you have a lot of stored up aggresion towards me. Why dont we have a chat over nf and clear it out? Acri, there is no point of talking to you. You always twist the facts. I?ll put up another thread on this, this evening. As for Flies ruling: He is admin and does what he thinks is best, but I dont think taking 690 is the BEST solution. I'd rather see 0,1 warning points for each clan. Taking 690 points from them will leave us with a 1000 point lead... not funny. Also, Civic is not really involved in this issue as guide lines prevent him from handling his clan's matters. Quote I?ve got nothing against Flies, I think he?s a great guy and a great host. But the fact is iN> doesn?t have to loose points, nor giving them warning points. You have no proof he manipulated the cb?s, so they won em fair. The winners of the BL are decided in the finals, so why bitchin over such bs if you don?t have proof. Me and my brother don?t give each other wins, we like being competitive. So he plays the best he can, he will never let me win easy. But still I win most of the times. But I can see how Stripes won the cb?s: he?s prolly older, he has more experience and with those things you can win a cb. If you think he cheated by doing this, then why don?t you play all the clans that don?t have played a cb yet. Earning 50 points out of each cb. Those clans were prolly gonna end up in the lowest regions of the ladder which won?t give you much points later on in the season... Mb we can blame z][t for doing that tactic, but we are NOT! That?s my view, tell me I?m wrong again, go on... I don?t care. I know what I see... th.Sent Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: th.Sentinel on December 05, 2003, 03:21:08 pm I've got nothing against you Mag, but I don't see it as an irregularity, its just a BL ladder, they played each other because they prolly online around the same time. As for us we are always online a bit later.
And for my deal in this thread: I'm only defending the little guys, the noob clans... Try helping them to sort their mistakes instead of takin away hard fought points. th.Sent Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Acri on December 05, 2003, 04:12:23 pm Sentinel, there is no problem in what you see at all. It is just messed up by what you won't see... as always.
Marcyboy says he warned mags... mags says he didn't. Believe whoever you want. Fact still remains we were the ones who wanted to settle it on the field. Stripes and I have NO beef with eachother atm, we sorted it all out, as normal people do. We are just awaiting the admins' decision. We have both agreed not to fight, whatever the outcome is, and we would both rather see a replay than letting the other clan win. Anything wrong with that? It is interesting how you can jump at the first opportunity to scorn me, Sentinel. Not even stripes does. I wouldn't accept that kind of behaviour from my friends. Also, dear Sentinel, we are cbing whoever asks us, provided we have time to play. And we DO settle our disputes on the field and we DO fight to win. Didn't we already beat you twice? I am waiting for the third. Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Stripes on December 05, 2003, 04:24:38 pm first to sentinel, We aint nOObs and why do you call us nOObs ????
And its Right me and Acri aint fighting anymore, we have chosen to stop all this [GAY CB] and Replay all games!!!! About the points we will lose: Its unfair cause you got no proof, and all other clans did cb vs KC and FeaR. mb you guys should just take the half of the cb's we played... i Wish you all a good fight in Season 6*** And gl.. Specially to the REAL nOObs** |GM| =) Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Acri on December 05, 2003, 04:34:20 pm Sent, I think you should talk to me in person or don't speak to me at all. I have no time or personal fuel for a flame war with you. I really have nothing against you and I have tried for ages to sort us out. You are still mad about season 5, I hear. I think you should move on. Any further Acri-bashing from you will not be replied to.
Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Civrock on December 05, 2003, 04:43:14 pm Third: Civic should have asked the players who were in the cb to continue the cb first! But he didn?t, he went straight to Stripes who didn?t know about the problem. i wasnt even online the day the cb was played. i did nothing of what u?re accusing me. Quote Also, Civic is not really involved in this issue as guide lines prevent him from handling his clan's matters. i didnt decide anything in this issue. it was all the other admins. i just stated my opinion, which doesnt count anyways, cuz my clan is involved. z][t-Civic Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: th.Sentinel on December 05, 2003, 05:40:51 pm Civic I apologise for any accusations I made to you or Magnetic. I deeply regret I ever mentioned you... I'm really sorry, I'll never do it again.
Stripes you shouldn't even loose 1 point! Acri-bashing?!? Hilarious! Read my posts on this thread I never ever said anything personal about you, but you did! Let me quote myself: Quote Acri, there is no point of talking to you. You always twist the facts. And it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with season 5. Quote 1) You are wrong in about everything here 2) Sentinel, I can clearly see you have a lot of stored up aggresion towards me 3) Sentinel, there is no problem in what you see at all. It is just messed up by what you won't see... as always. 4) It is interesting how you can jump at the first opportunity to scorn me, Sentinel. Not even stripes does. I wouldn't accept that kind of behaviour from my friends. 5) Sent, I think you should talk to me in person or don't speak to me at all. I have no time or personal fuel for a flame war with you. I really have nothing against you and I have tried for ages to sort us out. You are still mad about season 5, I hear. I think you should move on. Any further Acri-bashing from you will not be replied to. Voila, th.Sent Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: z][t-Magnetic on December 05, 2003, 05:53:19 pm Civic I apologise for any accusations I made to you or Magnetic. I deeply regret I ever mentioned you... I'm really sorry, I'll never do it again. I?m glad to hear that Sent...I was beginning to get in a bad mood about this. All we want in z][t is to play the game...not start flamewars. Hope this will be the end of this thread. Mags Title: Re:I want some brothers too... Post by: Civrock on December 05, 2003, 07:41:54 pm guys... no more flaming plz. talk about your probs in GR private chats and not in forum. issue solved, thread locked. 8)
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