*DAMN R6 Forum

what is a moderator supposed to do anyway? rile ppl up and then delete thier posts? or just respond in red text anonomously within any post he dislikes?

i ranted at billy last night about this crap..now u can all be party to my madness.... (edited for foul language, but not content)

? on the one hand, i couldnt care less what ppl like voodoo think. he's obviously both an jerk and a moron, so forget him, dont give him the benefit of any more attention, and let him fade into irrelevancy

? on the other hand, he's a frigging admin and he's acting like some teenage moron. obviously on a power trip, has no clue what being a 'moderator' might entail..or how to set an example or 'moderate' a discussion. he needs to get a grip on himself, be put in his place, or lose his position.

i say 'have at him'.... or ignore him completely. i see no reasonable way to deal with the punk. he thinks ppl like him are the only ones making this league work, and that without him it would fail, and that he is completely unappreciated. i wonder why? I can see why he feels that way, who wouldn't? but his position is supposed to be about not taking it personally, and making a productive tool of these discussions.

well, screw him. other very very fine folks, (like Flies for example, who has no beef with anyone, who never gets riled or flames or any of that crap, as far as i can tell)...have tried to point out some problems and work on a solution (or at least a discussion towards a solution)...and voodoo and his ilk take it as an insult and either ignore it completely or insult whoever brings it up.

i guess they rather spend their valuable intellectual capital on sorting out who glitched who, etc etc, stuff that really should just get shoved back in the participating clans faces to sort out for themselves. its all such a complete waste. do we really need a public forum to discuss every single cb, or every game therein? I mean, cmon.

I'm just ignoring them all from now on. Screw these forums, they stink. it goes nowhere. I used to love them. Now they just turn to ashes every time a new thread begins. like this one. what a stupid idea this was.

If i ever get a chance to cb again, I ain't leaving until it's all settled, no going to the moderators. if we cant settle it in the room with the other team, then screw this whole league. it's utter crap if two teams cant decide who won and who lost. replays are no way to judge whats happened, and every witnessed is hostile and biased.

anyway, love y'all and hope to get on gr again soon. this 15 min here and 15 min there is killing me. i really need to get a grip on work and life and all.

To sum up...my beef ain't with DAMN, or with anyone, really. I am sort of ticked off at voodoo, but i'd rahter ignore him than be mad at him. He used to be cool, and I assume this is a brief spell of insanity. I appreciate all the hard work by EVERYONE to make this workso well  for so long. But it's getting out of control, getting to be much less enjoyable, and I see few signs that it will improve. Then again, with idiots like me blowing the negativity horn, what chance does it have....

I bet this thread will be modified or deleted and not by the author.   :o

actually i almost deleted it myself....

i'll just leave it.

they'll modify it or delete it or they'll just ban me from DAMN altogether.....


THE EMPORER HAS NO CLOTHES

Soc, Im thinkin 5 bucks and a case of beer... ;)

i agree.

WTF you talking about?

     Sign, bob is pissed at MP and the fact that several of our guys are moderators. He had another couple of threads about it. ::adds bob to the Big List o' MP-hatin'::

I dont hate MP, its just that I dont like some of you.

Doodoo is the only moderator in question in my mind i dont have a problem with MP or any other clan he was in.

Doodoo stated in a recent post that he talked to me in a private message regarding a pic i had in my signature and asked me to take it off.

He never talked to me in a private message in this forum or on gameranger in regard to the topic above and i called him a liar.

After that he deleted all post pertaining to the issue like it didnt take place. doodoo is one of the biggest babys on gr he has no balls or guts to come to me and talk about the situation its easier to just delete ... huh doodoo

I dont think damn community deserves a moderator like this.  it brings down the credibility of this site when you have a moderator taking out his personal aggresions and using his powers like he did here just think if everyone of the mods did that there would be no dam site left.  I am calling for doodoo to relinquish his moderator abilities since hes is a proven liar.

That is my opinion and mine alone.

VooDoo is a fine man and a true gentleman. You guys won't realize what a good job he's done until he's gone. He might piss off those he Moderates? now and then, but he makes the rest of us happy. So, to Voods: Kudos to you, sir. Kudos.
I don't know what that means, but I think it's good.

Mr Mellow

He might just be a fine man but he did lie and that is just not right.
You just dont know the whole story and probably never will.  

Funny, so many people here have been complaining that there should be less bitching and flaming on the BL side of things, but a little moderation to keep the thread on topic and VooDoo is a bad man.

Soc, you seem way too pissed, and are questioning a lot more then moderation in your post, all over a couple posts being deleted?  Sounds like weaksauce to me.

Add me to the hate list if you want, but I'm just pointing out what I see to be the truth


Obviously you don't know voodoo, obviously you don't know how annoying it is to have stuff going wrong in your life then come on to something that used to be an escape for you and be confronted by something like this. Maybe he just had a bad day. I know voodoo and he is a great guy, it was thoughtless and stupid of you to even post this. This is the kind of stuff people need to be mature about and take it up in a PM.

Teenage moron? My definition of a teenage moron is one who acts without thinking, what good could you have possibly thought this thread would create? On a power trip? He used none of his admin powers! He dropped Billy a little note and that was the extent of it's use! C'mon now grow up vent your anger somewhere else.

Well if people like him aren't making it work(dedicated ones) then who is? The people spending their time looking for loopholes to a 6-0 win? Or is it the people criticizing the system and the people who run it?

Final thoughts jerry springer style: This is a post written out of anger. You want to solve something, maybe make a difference in this league that you "used to love" do something about it. You giving up on it because you disagree with someone isn't the way to go. Be mature.

You guys need to relax.  Say it all you want but there is no bias behind your backs that the Battle League Moderators have against you.  We check out the problems in cbs and threads.  We've been given outlines while being allowed to interpret them we stick to them mostly.  We've been taught how to moderate and change posts and what is appropriate/inapproprate.

As for Voodoo having a problem with Flies and such, it's no complaint about Flies trying to add to and help the battle league.  It's just that he tends to question everything about the battle league and not just give some things some time.  We talk about this stuff and how to handle it.

Voodoo almost left the battle league and it was because of people complaining for poor reasons that should be dropped and people just not playing the games anymore.  Voodoo was one of the first moderators I met and one of the first to greet/welcome me.  You need to have more respect and trust that we know what we are doing.

Hazard, its no fault of yours but you are less than fully informed.  The only reason this issue got to the forum and was not resolved on GR is that Voodoo blocked those who he had this arguement with.  Take from that what you will, but obviously neither side helped solve the problem.

I've spent an couple hours talking to Billy and to Voodoo about this issue (trying to cover all bases).  It is really out of hand by now, and would have been much easier fixed months ago.  However, I've proposed and they have agreed to meet in GR and talk it out.  I will sit in as a mediator.

Make no mistake, both sides are at fault.  That is why this doesn't have any easy solutions.  Its time someone fixed it.

 SOC, get off Vood's back. If I were him, I would've taken out this thread by now, and sent you a very hostile PM.

I've known VooDoo sense CIA, :looks at date:, so about 2 and a half years. Which, judging from the ammount of spelling and grammar errors in your post, is probably about as long as you've spoken English for.


And you're obviously a schizophrenic toddler with his head so far up his ass, the only light you get is that of the shit having a reaction with the acne on your face.


Your what now, Vood? 28? 29? SOC, if you want to see a "teenage moron", look in a miror, you flaming hypocrite.


Back at RS, I'd get involved in nearly every Battle League issue. It'd become tedious after a while, but I'd stick with it for the good of the RS ladder. After GHR came out, I stopped carring. I figured "newbies will be newbies, why interfere? Let them learn, let them grow." Vood, on the other hand, decided to stay with things. The ammount of shit that he's had to deal with, from a forum stand point, it's amazingly impressive that he hasn't lost his mind yet.


What the fuck are you smoking? You fucking prick.

Maybe you should talk to someone who's  been on GR for more than, oh, say, 6 weeks? Vood has the guts to do what needs to be done, but the intelligence to know when to let things take care of themselves, which is a fucking load of a lot more than can be said about your sorry ass.


Just because Vood's is a moderator doesn't mean that he's required to listen to the pathedic ramblings of a hypoctitical, hypercritical dumbshit.

If you wanted to come on GR and talk to him in a respectful manner, I'm sure he'd be most attentive. If you want to come on GR and be a stupid prick, then I can't blame him for blocking you.

Anyway, got a problem with what I said? Good. I'll be happy to argue it with you on GR, but get off VooDoo's case.  [/color]

well uhmm

for me there is only 3 BL admins here
Mauti
EL
Civic

didnt c others doing anything

they just forums mods (bad or good i dont care)

schit season, schit BL atm

hope it ll go better

Billy, if anyone here doesn't know the whole story, that's your and Soc's fault.  You guys brought the complaint forward here, so if you can fill it with insults, but not the facts, that your own damn fault.  That it doesn't help your case is obvious to some of us.

Horda,

Just because you don't see them doing things, doesn't mean that they are not.  They are all admins, and all deserve to be recognized.  Or should I not recognize Civic, since he's new and I don't know him as well?  

Aramarth,

This may be a matter of both are wrong, but blocking them in GR shouldn't be the problem, and any pointing to that is pretty much bullshit in my opinion.  They could PM him on DAMN, but VooDoo's time on GR should be his own, to play games and talk to who he wants.  Escalating it to the public forum here was nobody's doing but Soc's (maybe helped by Billy).  

I get along with all the people involved, and I agree, it's probably some misunderstanding.  But I also think it's been taken too far.

Lol... Pity there isn't an age limit on moderators ;)

Hell pity there isn't a minimum level of materity required in order to be allowed to play GR! :(    ;D

All i'm going to say is i respect voodoo.  This here is nothing more the a schoolyard fight.

guess what? if you or any of your friends don't like the moderators on this board, you always have the option to leave. i bet they'd love to get rid of some of the whiny morons on this board.

You are allowed to read the thread before replying you know  ;)
Dont put words in his mouth, he never said he didnt like the moderators as a group. He dislikes voodoo as person, only voodoo.

And whats this whole thing equalling mods as gods, what no one is allowed to dislike them? Voodoo is allowed to do whatever he feels like and us humans cant  even raise our voice about it?

Soc is a stand up guy btw, the kind that should be a mod. This ofcourse does give kinda a bad picture though, there goes your chances of becoming a mod soc   ;)

Ok, my turn... First off, when I first saw this thread I was going to lock and move it but then I said to myself lets see what comes of this. I am only going to say a few things here as I dont have time for such bs.

1)I have no idea who soc is. I have never even spoken to him on Gameranger. His motivation for the post must come from someone else in his clan.

2)This all started long ago between Noto and myself, and now Noto and I are on good terms(ie:respect each other)

3)Billy and a few others from the clan Network were put on block by me because of constent name calling an such in games I saw them in. For this Billy decided to take his personnel feeling here to these forums and start a flame. I do have chat logs to prove this if needed but wont post them unless this goes farther.

4)Billy calls me a liar because he says I never gave him a warning about removing an image he had in his signiture on this forum. Well, that is a lie, I sent him a private message a month or more ago saying in a respectfull manner to please remove his image it slows load time on the site. He is just pissed I had to tell him again to remove it. (btw Billy, Mauti is the un-named moderator posting in your signiture for me not to even ask you next time and just remove it myself). So Billy decided to come here and blow something that I asked him to do nicley WAY OUR OF PROPORTION and try to make me look bad. Srry bro, didnt work.

I would like to say that I respect the clan Network and talk to some of there  members on a regular basis, ie:Serp, Aramarth, Noto and some others but the rest will stay on block. Im sorry Billy, but when i blocked you, I never bothered you one bit, but you took it way to personally and had to come to the forums that I moderate and try to slur my name. Well you stay on block unless you grow up. And as for you Soc, please explain you post about me, because you have no idea who I am. As far as this thread, It wont be locked, it wont be deleted, it will be left here for anyone who wants to voice there opinion about me.

Oh, and Horda...srry bro, i was semi retired and decided to come back to deal with all the trobles we have been having. I am at your service.

Thank you all who stuck up for me.
Respectfully,
Vood's  :D

Soc and voods both seem like very stand up respectable people to me.  especially Soc.  Not sure where this all started and got out of hand, but it definately seems our of place.  

DON'T ARGUE WITH VOODOO.



you are wrong if you do

wow. no idea anyone would even bother reading my crappy post, much less respond to it. not gonna bother responding to most of what I'm getting....

voodoo- I read my post again and it comes across all wrong. figures. We have spoken a few times, but nothing serious or worth remembering. Anyway, I do appreciate anyone who puts time into this league or the forums. I have noticed a general tendency for these forums to deal very seriously with glitches and other narrowly-focused issues, and less constructively when people bring up ways to improve the league. I was intending to lay some of the blame for that on you, but mostly I was trying to blame EVERYONE for it. Not just moderators, but the league as a whole. In retrospect, I was wrong to blame you at all. The thing with Flies did get to me, but we were both probably having a bad day. Sorry. I do still wonder why you would have blocked me if you didn't even know me, but I am learning to appreciate the world of blocking....in real life as well as in gr....

Anyway, sorry for this whole thing. Just got frustrated at seeing people trying to fix their arguments, suggest improvements, and getting nothing but grief.

Please delete this turd of a thread at your earliest convenience.

And thanks to anyone trying to make me sound like a good guy on a bad day...helped me realize what a schmuck I had become.