*DAMN R6 Forum

This is an observation.

This could be just me, but when R6 guys post, it seems that they think they are elite gods or something?

I just get that feeling,i don't know why, but i just do.
Nose in the air, ass sticking out while they walk on tippy-toes.

Is this a correct obervation?

some of the r6 guys do , some don't

It depends, if the R6 player is from 2000 (before RS came out) then they are elite gods and have full right to act that way ;).  If they started playing after that then yes, they are full of themselves.

STFU!
God, this thread just proves your point DEST.

........then gain, its just an observation.

I think they are afraid to upgrade to a better game with a bigger audience and a bigger play base. B/c they know that there the first ones in line to get an ass-kicking.

Destruco is right. They are afraid to upgrade to RS becuase:
      :-[ and  :P

Well put and well said.

Hey now, I upgraded and indeed ?:P

Since I ?:-[ ?so much I decided to give up on RS.

Besides, RS was such a shitty port job it didn't work on my comp very well.

All this doesn't change that I'm an elite god, christ j47 can't you take a fucking joke (assuming you were telling me to shut up).

The fact of the matter is that RS and R6 are entirely different games. R6 is action, RS is stealth and strategy.  Some people do better in one then the other and enjoy one more than the other so you shouldn't just assume everyone should be good at both, or that someone is a better player because they are good at both.

bondo... you wanna talk about a shitty port job...
R6, that game has never sucessfully loaded on my G4... i did get it to run once... only i had to pull my Geforce3 out and pop a PCI voodoo 5 in, and even like that the game played without textures, and at 5fps. i did reinstall it and try to fix R6, but it never has worked.

Bondo, don't backpeddel to hard...

A shiity port job? Obviously your probably the only person who has ever had a problem with it. If you wanna talk shitty, u wanna talk R6 b/c most of us had problems running it, including myself.

And i disagree- Rs has way more action. R6 is just a test of who can properly aim the best unrealistic gun shot.

Well, R6 runs at about 150 fps for me and has been fairly solid (crashes a decent amount though when I play in 9).

RS on the other hand ran like shit whether I was playing SP or MP.  I had all the computer I needed to play it yet it still ran poorly.

And R6 is more action packed because it is simple run and shoot.  No leaning around walls, no reticle knock making ping more important.  It was just guys with mgs prefiring each other.  People don't really camp in R6 (fotogeek aside) because it just isn't made for it, compare that with RS which has C4 camping, HBS blocker camping.  Camping is the name of the game.  So don't tell me RS is more of an action game.

So, I'm not backpeddling at all, I still say RS was a shitty port job (far worse than R6) and I still say R6 was more of an action game and that RS by taking away the action screwed up a good thing.  Even on MoH where leaning is an option, I still don't bother with it most of the time, it may keep me from being as good as I can but it is more fun not caring.

yes its true
(spam curtisy of Farmerjebidia)

I am an R6 player.  I upgraded to rs.  Relized that it lagged like your mom, and didnt play it again.

I also am full of myself.  I believe I am an elite god.  

R6 is a game of skill.  If you know the map, have quick reactions and good accuracy, you will become good at the game.

RS is also a game of skill, but less so.  It is a game of connection speed, a game of RAM and VRAM.  Essentially, the better equipped the better you are.  Plus it it relies too much on camping and tricky tactics.

Now: before I get yelled at, let me qualify my statements...

1) "RS...is a game of connection speed" etc.

Often people say the same is true of R6.  They are wrong.  The majority of SEALs players, arguably the second best mac r6 clan to play the game, played on 56ks.  Ace himself, until he went to college, was the champion of the 56k.  Needless to say his R6 skills are and always have been better than near everyone on this forum.

2)Plus it it relies too much on camping and tricky tactics.

When a player in R6 camps, cheats, or does any number of immoral acts, an opponent with a far amount of skill can eliminate the offender.  I have not witnessed such ease in accomplishing this in RS.  Whether that is  because the game is flawed or because the RS players arn't as good, I don't know.  Either way it attests to the superiority of R6

Consider this: RS coems out years after R6.  nearly everyone whose anyone gets the game at the same time as every RS player who is new to this sort of gaming community.  It would seem logical that the R6 players would get good at the game quicker than the masses.  And it is true, they often did!  Then why is it that most players originally on R6 didnt convert for good to the newer game if they were good at it?  because it  wasn't as fun.  It wasn't as skill-oriented, it lacked a certain something.

Finally, RS players take the game too seriously.  In R6 whether i was getting ass raped or I was the ass-raper, the game was always fun, there was always glee-filled banter.   In RS I don't see that.  Ace might be an ass on the forums, but he's great to play with.  I may be a haughty little bitch on the forum (and in real life too) but in the game you won't find a player whose had as much fun or committed as many amusing tking atrocities.  The R6 community has a sort of hazing process to weed out the annoying and dumb-asstical players.  it makes the community more close-knit, and "1337"

So, that's why R6 players feel superior, it is because they feel their game is superior as it requires more skill and it is more fun.  

Plus R6 players have been around longer.  Not only longer than RS players, but longer than the game itself.  That sort of seniority comes with pride.  

By the way, according to Bondo's definition Loudnotes, Wrath, him and I are all "elite gods."  The poor boy needs to get his head checked.

I still play both....
and i agree on you Bondo, R6 runs faster, RS is a bit crapy.. (btw: i mis my CAR-15 in RS)

but thats not the point here...
R6 has become a "cult-game" and thank God R6 has no SA HBS or jammer, lag-guns and that horrible thing called:C4... ;D
i compare these 2 games with the movies:Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs is the cult movie and Pulp Fiction is just a crapy sequel...

the only gods on R6 are some SIXers, SEALs(not Fotogeek),SBR, EUR, DAMN... and don't forget the Janitors... and they don't bitch that much as in RS(except for Fotogeek of course)

I love it when you talk dirty roy...about ass raping...and about R6 and such...

Ahem, anyway I'm am quite sure roy and The Beast have put thier fingers upon it...

Dest sorry but RS is a crappy port. Compare it with the PC version. It is very slow and needs a huge amount of RAM.

I waited very long until I played RS regular because I prefered the fast action in R6. RS is much more teamplay orientated and is also slower than R6 to force tactical teamplay.

Both games are played very different. In R6 you can rush and kill 6 and more people alone in a room. With RS you probably die very fast doing the same movement. And one thing about the guns Dest. I was in the Army and shot over 22000 shots with my Steyr Aug, MG 74, PAR 66/79, PAR 77, Glock 17, ?SMG 12.7mm and MK 2cm. In real it is much easier to hit a target. R6 guns are more realistic. The AUG has almost no recoil and shoots perfect. With a pdw you could never snipe as you can in RS. RS is only more realistic if it comes to walk/run differences(except pdw) It is damn difficult to hit something while you run even when the target is only 50 meters away.(This part of the AUG is ok the rest is crap)

Also I strongly miss the original R6 network code. In RS you can't prefire(I speak of real prefire if you only play RS you can't understand what I am speaking about) anymore. That was a great tactic and was a sign of skill.Also with prefire you could better handle lag.

That are all reasons why I played very long R6 instead of the newer RS. Now I also have fun playing RS because I don't try it to play as R6 anymore.

I have found a very interesting article why R6 will still be play although RS is out at  Pie Tactics (http://www.piestactics.com/guide/articles/r6notdead.asp):


"...The differences in the Rogue Spear gameplay turned off many Rainbow Six gamers to the sequel.?

If you've followed the development of Rogue Spear from the beta stages to the final date of release, you've probably heard about the heated discussions between players who argued for the gameplay of Rainbow Six versus the slowed gameplay of Rogue Spear. Specifically, the running speeds (or at least the feel) of players was reduced, the 3 burst was slowed by a delay, and in general, the controls were more stiff in their feel. All these points are highly subjective, but that was exactly the problem. Because the gameplay issues are so subjective and different from the original Rainbow Six gameplay, players were easily turned off from Rogue Spear. What's worse, the beta leaked out in late June, and so a LOT of players got the chance to play the first beta. As the name implies, the beta was an unfinished version of the game, and had a lot of bugs. However, the changes in the gameplay was there. I played this beta (since I was reviewing it) and was absolutely shocked and disappointed in the changes. Word quickly spread that RSE had messed with the gameplay, which R6 players had grown so accustomed to, and the response was highly negative in many circles of the R6 community, especially the Zone. So, RSE lost a lot of potential customers because of not only the change in gameplay but because players relied on word-of-mouth or illegal beta copies to make their decision..."

Click on Pie Tactics above to read the full article.

Back to topic I don't think that R6 players are more full of themselves as RS players.

Bye,

Mauti

R6 players arent full of themselves...they have the same feelings to most RS people as us older RS people have to RS newbies...

Anyway, I am sort of jealous of them because I never got the hang of R6 and consistantly got my ass handed to me on a silver platter...but I cant say the same about RS.

If you think about it, clans like Cunt, *NADS, and their predecessors turned RS into a game of kill the Cub Scout because of all the campfire camping, etc.

Beast: Don't whine, the M4 carbine is the equivalent to the old CAR-15 of R6.

For the rest of you: If you hate tactics and slower gameplay, STAY AWAY FROM GHOST RECON. If you thought RS was slow, Ghost Recon is 10-20x slower yet more fufilling and exciting than both R6 and RS. If needed though, I can provide screenshots of the game, etc on request (I would have posted them on the *DAMN site for A&S, but it has a 200kb cap and my screens are 800-900kb each.

Well in my opinion i think R6 is a much better game

Reasons to like R6:
R6 is much faster gameplay and RS is much slower and tactics taht you use are way difernt

You dont have to deal with all the HBS/HBS jammer/SAHBS jammer/SAHBS/HB Pucks and all the other crap that makes the game to complicated

It runs like a bitch on my comp and freezes


Reasons to like RS:

Sniping: sniping is by far the coolest thing in RS

ummm c4




And just cause im not a super under 20000 dosnt mean that im a newb

Just cause i own u at r6 bondo

;)

Well, maybe I can get into GR even though I hated RS simply because I have a feeling GR will actually run.

SK, everyone can own me in R6 now, I'm a MoH whore who doesn't bother to boot up into OS 9 to play R6.

I think the new R6 players THINK that they are god because they dont know any better.

They have no idea how ?the game was played in the day! ?{old skewl}

Only real ppl left that play that game and know are the Six guys and a few other rare gems!

I play now and then and they(the new guys) talk alot of shit, ?true very true and I can see why this thread was made!

Nixon, if you are the Nixon of the past: the "old skewl" Nixon of SBR fame, I'm damn dissappointed in you.

I haven't played recently, so I don't know about the "new" R6 players, but if anyone, you should understand how the game was played.  We had many a shootout you and I.

Those Dest are talking about when he speaks of R6 players, ARE those who knew the game for what it was.  He speaks of players on the forum.  That would be players like Ace, Wrath, Loudnotes, Bondo, Mauti, and myself.  we are the players (wrath & Mauti especially) who define "old school"  Add a SiX or two and you've got a real game going.

In current r6 games there may be cocky pricks who don't know better.  On the forum the r6 players are cocky pricks because they know better.

And thanks Mauti for that article.  Quality stuff, that.

Hey, piss off, it's "Strategic Defensive Positioning"! ?

Yeeeeeeshhhh....

OOOooOOOooo, you lippy little bitch, as soon as I figure out who you are, I'm slapping your ass but HARD.

Sheesh, leave for awhile, and everyone gets all lippy. ?As soon as I get some free time, I'll come back and straighten the lot of you out. ?Or, at least, stuff my tent up somewhere reasonably uncomfortable. ?So nyah.

lol Fotogeek, I was only taking advantage on Bondo's post... consider it as a joke, plz... I know you're a great player...
love ya Foto... slap me!!!

btw: unblock all EUR players, so they can join your host again... ;)

No offense to our super cool website admin Mauti, but I'm more old skool than him if you want to get technical. Wrath still puts us both to shame, but I don't feel bad because he will forever be my nade bitch (oh the good ol days of our stalemates on estate and skyscraper). All this talk of R6 is making me feel nostalgic. I probably should boot up in OS 9 sometime (I always say I do but never get around to it) and bust out the mad R6 skills. Of course, I need to do this before I go back to school because 56k is way better than broadband. It's no fun if your ping isn't over 200.

My cable is so bad that I'm lucky to get pings under 300.

Oh, and if you want to go by technicalities, I'm more old-school than Mauti (at least if these technicalities are age or account number).  Not that it really matters.  If you started playing in the first six months of GR you are sufficiently old-school.

By that definition, only Wrath qualifies. :P

All i hear when i read this is all about the port jobs, and the framerates.

First off, the framerrats are going to get slower with any game, as more seqels come out. just look at MoH:AA. If you don't have a 1Gig mac, u can't run it very well etc etc yadda yadda yadda.

Of course RS is gonna be a slower game. it's a sequel. Not that RS graphics are good, but the R6 graphics are even worse, and worse graphics usually means faster frames per second.

And when it comes to c4 and "camping" there is hardly no camping in r6, b/c no one plays it anymore. When i played it back in the day, there was camping gallore and you can;t say there was not b/c just like RS it was the popular game at the time.

Also, yes there are no lag guns in R6, but u can only basically use 2 of the 7 or how ever many guns anyway, b/c if u  use any other there is no chance you are going to hit anyting. You can say blah blah blah Rs and the PDW, but the point is that you can kill ppl with different guns. where as you have either the CAR-15 or M-16 and sometimes the MP5. that's it.,



I can fertilize my lawn with the bullshit that this guy wrote. Geez. Thank you C.E.O of Redstorm.

Now to get this back on topic.

I am not saying anything about the game itself, i am just talking about the players. Those who talk on GR and those who post on the forums.

All, i am saying it just seems that they think that they own the place...lol..if that made sense.

It would make sense that the R6 players on this forum thinking that they owned the place because it was originally an R6 forum exclusively. Also, I think when you look at the intelligence of most of the R6 players who post on these forums, you don't find some of the retards that play RS. This isn't to say that all the people who play RS are stupid, but take a look at some of the biggest morons to grace this site: Rapid and Romulus. What did they both play? RS, but of course. I rest my case.

GR started Jan. 1st of 2000 so the first 6 months would extend through the end of June of 2000. ?I joined in March and have 21000 number so I'd guess at least 30000 qualify.

GR started in either June or July of 1999. Version 1.0 was released on Jan 1st of 2000.

1. I play MoHAA with my 466 Mac and get good framerate (mind you with the absolute worst graphical settings) and I also am competitive with every other player Mac or PC.

2. Dest, you must have played with foto too much, I played R6 for two years and with most of the great players and I can tell you that outside of Road and Airport (sniper/camper maps) there was no camping.  And even on Road and Airport the majority of players tried to cross.

3. WTF are you talking about only CAR, MP5, and M-16.  You leave out the HK (the best gun), the Benelli which some can use well, the deagle which has owned many a person when ammo was out on the HK.  R6 is just as varied with how guns work, there just isn't as many.

4. Roy was right on with what he wrote, it was very accurate in explaining the differences between R6 and RS.  You just don't like hearing that RS isn't as skill based.

5. I don't see where you get off claiming that R6 players are so bad in how they act, most of the outrageous, bragging, and stupid comments I hear are from RS players.

A beta is not a release, so I am still correct, GR officially came out on 1/1/00.  Now bugger off.

If it wasn't released until 2000, tell me how Wrath got his account in Nov of 1999 smartass.

Simple, he got his account during the beta.  Like I said, betas aren't considered the release of a program.  The release date of the program was 1/1/00.  Bugger...Off. ;)

There are alot of ppl who think full of themselves when making threads on forums, like the guy who made this thread.  ;D

Truth is, they think they are very smart ppl, trying to show us their intellect.  I have one advice to give: You Americans stay in school and make something of yourselves OR end up on the Jerry Springer show.

Anyway wtf do I know, I'm just a factory worker!!  ;)

peace

omg! jn.preciousroy said SBR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wub you =) SBR own3d

Nomad if you weren't a fagget wearing glasses I would drive the hour it takes me to get to Toronto and take a pic me kickin the crap out of you and post it here....lol  ;)



Did I say BAD?, fuck does no one read the posts b4 they post.

I meant attitude!!! Snobby!!!! Fuck lock this thread already, i don't want to get into it anymore.

I was under the impression that you considered acting snobby as a bad thing.  I did read your post...what we have here is a failure to comunicate...it is all about semantics so take it easy.

About Wrath I don't understand Ace why you think Wrath is THE OLD SKEWLER. He has been around for a long time but I can remember  when I met him the first  time on GR in may 2000(under screenname Wrath of the Eternal Swarm). He joined my euro game and talked bs. I'll kill ya and blablabla. We played a lot of games owning him then he killed me once laughed and disconnected hehe. Well that was the beginning and with the start of *POD*(I know he had some clans before) he became better. He was definitive one of the best players as I consider myself(from 2000 - april 2001, at this time I played R6 like crazy) but in my opinion he never reached the skill of Attila.

In my opinion Attlia was the best single player and old skewler ever. No John Nothing, Krez, Jamiroquai or other players were better as solo player. I hated his damn canadian cable nice pings but.... arg hehe.

Roy i think you missunderstood me, what you just said i mean read my post again mb  i did no make myself clear enough.
Ok and i was talking about in the game not ont the forum but kinda the same thing

Hey Cow :-) ya we did good to see ya

Roy we use to own together.  I can also remember some great shoot outs it was alot of  fun!  I was refering to who was left (old skewl) playing R6

As far as what Ace calls old skewl  I agree with Mauti there were alot more then what Ace said Wrath rocks and was good but there were alot of other ppl for example Snipe aka Gladheateher or AXID bolth were very good!  I dont  know how you tried to define it but mb try again otherwise all good  and just tell the noob r6 guys to get a grip

PS Roy get your ass back on GR never see ya
i seen loundnotes a few weeks ago

Let me clarify. When I was speaking of Wrath being the most old school technically or me being more old school than Mauti, I was solely basing it on how long we had been on GR. Talking about the best R6 player (Kordova hands down) is a whole other argument. As far as who is old school and who isn't, there isn't truly a way to quantify people as being more or less old school than others.

Haha, of course I am the old schoolest of the old schoolest.

Just kidding

I could really care less about when anyone signed up, we only joke around about it anyways. What really matters is skill and style. I think style is more important than skill, some of the best players have no style, believe they are god and generally look down on everyone else.

Mauti, I have no idea when that happened, I know I have never said anything like that before in my GR career, except to the SEALs, and thats cuz they know its true that I'll kick their asses =P

The only player I couldn't beat consistently at some time or another was Sling Blade, who rivaled Kordova at his height.

As far as Euros go.. I have nothing against them, they just kick ass on their servers and its nearly impossible to play a truly fair game against them, either with them hosting or you.

I wasn't even reading this thread, I come and read it and find my name dropped every other post, please, use it carefully, since it is the name of the God of R6?. ;)

*bows once.. twice.. thrice - exits stage left*

I will be getting a decked out with a new G4 and ethernet at college, where i will be from august 31 to late april for the next 4 years.

I plan to put on a preOSX system just for R6.  Preferebly 8.1 or 8.6, because 9 is such a memory hog.

Needless to say, you will be seeing me much more Nixon.

by the way, with the possible exception of Kordova, Johnnothing could (and did) ass-rape any player ever.  And if not in the game, JN certainly had his way with kor in the real world.

I had to be JN's bitch for a year before he started to let me compete.

I thought u were still hisbitch thow bondo ????

-SK

I don't believe I ever said I stopped being his bitch...it is just that I was able to make him my bitch on occasion.  You know...role playing.

o role playing cool

looks at bondo funny***

leaves***

MWAHAHA, RIGHT INTO MY 56K PREFIRE!!!

Too early, this was on your host, you missed me big time, ma'am, now, bend over

I heard bullets hitting the wall and then maniacal laughter, so I went stage right.