*DAMN R6 Forum

Well, I was playing ghost recon today, and "Jacques.Chirac" and his french fucking friend "eOe Bouboulle" would not stop tking or calling the Americans "baby killers." >:( I'm sick and tired of hearing this, especially from the French. >:(

HOW MANY TIMES DID WE SAVE YOUR ASSES?! WILL YOU EVER GET IT THROUGH YOUR FROG EATING HEADS THAT IF WE WEREN'T AROUND, YOU'D ALL BE SCREWED?  >:(

Anyway, I recommend blocking these two guys, as they will just ruin the game for everyone playing.

So, this brings me to my poll.. which political leader do you hate most? I was going to leave it at just Chirac and Hussein, but I thought people would want more choices.

Snipe, first off, the French don't owe us jack squat, if we really were fighting for their good we wouldn't have waited until we were attacked to get into WWII.  Secondly, are you sure these idiots are really French, I don't think you should get upset about the French over people acting like French idiots who aren't French.

I'd vote for Bush because he actually has global power and he uses it horribly.  It isn't as bad as those dictators who kill people, but it is more deserving of hate IMO.

Forgetfull, Ungreatfull French >:(

Bondo..
1) They spoke French.
2) Their GameRanger map says they are in France.
3) They were assholes (must be French)


And the one thing that confirmed the fact that they were french:

THEY WERE TKING MASTERS, AND RAN AWAY TO HIDE WHEN THE OTHER TEAM CAME NEAR THEM

You Silly Bullshiters!!! You all hate Bush.. I am a republican and I like President Bush. I chose Saddam as my least favorite ruler..

- Snipey  ::) DIE BITCHS

Snipey.

Well I am american and I am ok with Bush, so Saddam is my choice. If your american and u choose Tony Blair your an idiot, he is our biggest ally. Britain is one of the or the only country that actually stood up and is fighting with us against Iraq.

Since when was AK a french clan  ;D

Snipey, we voted that we hate Bush, so yes, we hate Bush...but we have damned good reasons to.

Mattster, Blair could technically be hated if you are opposed to the war because he supports it.  But he is less vile than Bush on that side of the issue so anyone who is against it is more likely to hate Bush than Blair.  In fact I like Blair, I just disagree with him about the war.  I actually dislike Bush (hate was being used simply because it is being used, not to actually be as strong as the word means) because he does nothing right for this country.

Screw Chirac !

Snipe cool down and think before u post!

BtW without the help of the French - A USA would probably not even exist, SO SHUT UP! They Help u in the independece war - and they did them most diplomatic work for you to get the GB leaving you alone.
The fought so many fights on your side! They gave u weap and their Army to get you independent ( or better to get the British out of America )

Your Statue of Liberty is comming from the French , when u hate them so much - then give this gift back!

Perhaps it should be given to the Canadians (in Quebec especially) instead.  They seem to appreciate the things France has done.

Hologram, don't you think it's.... well... maybe a coincidence that the French FINALLY showed up for the Revolutionary War when we had the British backed into a corner and were kicking ass?

The French gave us the Statue of Liberty... Thanks. It's neat.

The French have given us "support" in wars. Umm, you say support, I say distraction.

Last, if the French have done so much for us in the past, why do the all of a sudden hate us? They can still have their fucking oil trade with Iraq after it's over, but if you call us "baby killers," well that just pisses me off.

Snipe, the French hate us for the same reason a good third of Americans hate Bush.  It just happens France is politically much more liberal where as the US is only part liberal.

You still haven't answered my question of why France should feel they owe us anything since we let Germany devestate them twice before caring enough to enter the war.  Perhaps if we had joined immediately and prevented the Germans from entering France they would owe us something.

Americans can be just as pig headed as the French and vise versa. It was inappropriate for them to tk you, but it is inappropopriate for you to hate the French because they dont agree with you on the war. I voted Putin because he stole the election from me. Bastard.

Bondo, what happened to, "Better late than never?"

The French dont hate you - they hate the policy the US does! But u repeat any critics with hateres.

By the way! Snipe : back to ! What happend to : better ?ater then never - also involving US Independece fight! and without France u never would have got the official Indepence from GB - they maybe left u alone but they wouldnt give Amerika the independence - and France did not enter the war after it was nearly won. They helped the amerikans with lots of weapons and then they fought the British on your side a bit later - but would u have done wihtout any weaps???????? against an much stronger enemy?????

What would have the Americans done when France didnt force GB not to send more Soldiers to America????

I'm not sure if I completely understood that...

Anyway, what I want to know, is if you've helped us all these years, why the sudden turn around? Why the hatred? Why the pro-saddam viewpoint?

The French have never been pro-Saddam, just anti-war, they are NOT the same.

You hate them just as they hate you, I imagine it's because you're so similar, heh. Both countries as arrogant and loving their sovereignity, both countries based on liberty, both being pretty conservative, then there are a lot of differences as well but in the core I think the countries are both pretty similar.

Guys, we've helped the French plenty. Why do you think we went into Vietnam? Vietnam was one of France's colonies, and France wasn't able to control it. With the two World Wars, while we did wait a while to enter the war, that doesn't mean we didn't help at all. We were giving the French and British gigantic loans, not just economically, but militarily as well. We lent out mass amounts of weaponry to the Allies pretty much from the start of both of World Wars. From what I can remember from history class, the French took their time in helping us with the American Revolution as well. Now, I do think it's ignorant to say that all French people are assholes. That's like saying all white men beat their wives, or that all eskimos live in igloos. However, from what I gather, they do have a tendency to be rather snobbish to Americans. That's probably because we make better wine, and sell more of it, too. They're jealous.

You're all just jealous because the French are more sophisticated than you are. Do Americans smoke cloves and drink wine in street caf?s while discussing Foucault? I think not. Plus, croissants are delicious. Where would Burger King be without the Croissandwich? Out of business is my guess! Is English known as "the language of love"? Fuck no, French is. France has also made a larger cultural impact on the world than the US has, although they have existed longer. In summation, I love French people.

I think these Poll results are hilarious.

I have two things to say, more responding to the actions of Chirac and his accomplice, than the discussion of who saved whos butt in a more complete fashion, in events that all happened over 60 years ago.

1) As Cossack said it was wrong and stupid of those two to run around the game TKing and being generaly a pair of jackasses.  It's pretty lame they cant think of a better way to express themselves by ruining the game for other people, who have no connection to the actions of the U.S.

2) Calling Americans 'baby killers' pisses me off more than just a bit.  The Mae Lay (sp?) massacre was conducted by a small handful of men, not by the entire U.S army in the Vietnam conflict.  Horrible, yes.  A tragedy, undoubtedly.  Reflecting the nature of all of the American Armed Forces? Hardly.  Reflecting and demonstrating the entire population of the United States, give me a fucking break.

If you try to tell me that the comment wasnt directed to the events in Vietnam, then it is even more faulty.  In war, bombs and explosives arent particular about who or what they kill.  Ill bet you that in more than one occasion the French in their own involvement in Vietnam killed their fair share of babies, either intentionally or by accident.  So does every country involved in war.  People of all ages and walks of life die.  It is how it works.  Period.  Im not saying its good, or acceptable, but them's the way things happen, and we cant change that.

Anyway, in ending, guys dont insult the individual French infantry man.  In WWI they went through absolute hell, and were only so viciously butchered because of poor leadership of their generals, not by any fault of their own.  WW2, same story.  Without the French resistance the invasion of Normandy might not have gone off the way it did, or if it did, casualties would have been -much- higher. 

I havent studied their involvement in Vietnam enough, but i bet the same thing applies there.  The one thing i do know, was in Dien Ben Phu (sp?) it was a deathtrap the commanders ordered their men into, and let them get sliced to ribbons.

Behaving like a jackass in a game dosn't help anyone. Dosn't mean you start roasting a whole country..


Biggist ally and also a fucking idiot. We will hopfully be voting his ass out of Downing Street ASAP. Stood up to what exactly, the false intelligence? Pity he won't stand up to what is happening In Israel or Guantanimo bay or Africa. Its all Bullshit.

Ps.... Hello the US would still be a little British Colony if it wasn't for the French! You probably really don't like that but its true.

lol I was reading this thread, and I was like, holy shit, cossack, and mattster, and tasty and kami and mellow!...and then I noticed the dates on the thread.

Go read:
http://revolution.h-net.msu.edu/essays/carp.html
http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/sfelshin/saintonge/frhist.html
http://www.harlingen.isd.tenet.edu/coakhist/amrev.html

Ok.

So if the govermnent of France today has nothing to do with the government of France that aided the U.S. during the war then we can apply the visa versa - the goverment of the US today is without doubt completely and utterly different than when the US was dragged into the Second World war and helped join the allies in the battle against Germany. Therfore people can stfu about expecting france to grovel at your feet becasue America helped free france in the 2nd world war. Nobody else dose so i don't see why some americans feel differently.

Visa versa again... Help is help both ways.


Perhaps they arn't just so stupid as to believe that fighting will always solve all problems in all circumstances, and which ever yother war would we be refering to?

Um hello? Same goverment... same people is it? For some reason i don't remember seeing George bush leading his country in the 2nd world war for some reason... or Donald Rumsfield etc ect. Do they have the same political interests, the same personal and religious agendas? um no i think not. hence my point... It is not the same.

We don't expect the french to kiss our feet for the british effort to help save France and fight against the german invasion... Nobody in Europe does - The Candians don't for their help.. nobody except America. Why is this? do you feel somehow threatened and as a result feel some need to try and inpose a sense of superiority over others?

True Ghostsniper .. America has without doubt more military hardware and capacity than anyone else...

Just a pity the guys controling that power have less inteligence than a Five year old delinquent.

Ps... were you just gonna ignore the rest of the post?

FWIW, the Articles of Confederation weren't signed until after the war, so during the Revolutionary War we were not yet a Confederacy. We were a generally undefined group of individuals who were fighting against their colonial power. Many people in the colonies were not on our side. I find it odd that you would chide him on historical accuracy while making an error. I guess if you really want to define what the "Americans" were during the Revolutionary War, we were freedom fighters...or from the view of the British, terrorists.

I wasn't nasty with you GS, why are you always so uppity?

Anyway, by your own numbers, the US was only a Federation for at most the last third of the war. Thus for the majority, my description is accurate.

I think I shall remember to, next time there is an environmental discussion, to say, unless you have a BA in Environmental Studies, I suggest you leave the lessons for those who have actually studied them in-depth. Maybe then you would realize how condescending it sounds. And you'd see that maybe saying that doesn't mean you are 100% right as I've somewhat pointed out above by showing how your dates (which I dont' contest) partially support my claim that you wrote me off as a moron for.

You know what's funny? We're all arguing because of a thread that died almost two years ago.

Lets all leave this alone, and if you want i can move everything into a new thread so you can keep bickering.

By the way, Sal, im officially irked with you for bringing a dead thread back up.

Hahahaha


What the fuck... I was reading the topics on the main page, and saw this thread... then my name, and that got me to thinking... umm, what the hell... I never posted this...


Wow...

Come on guys, read the dates, don't get into a flame war that's two years old.




And SanitarySal: You're retarded.

Does anybody have a problem if i lock this, so it stays dead?  Or would you all rather see if we can collectively keep out mouths shut and just let it die a 2nd, natural, death?

.... I would say let it die a gracefull and well needed death.. but then again i doubt thats gonna happen!  ::adminowns::

It's a poll that died and went away  almost two years ago.  Digging up old dead threads is bad.  Consider this a suggestion to not do it again.

Now going to take BFG's suggestion, and the fact that nobody has said otherwise, and lock this and let it become dead again, and stay dead this time.

-Lone

EDIT - BFG, GS, Flies, or Bondo, PM me if you would like to see this thread re-opened, and I will do so.