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Title: The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: iMat on April 06, 2003, 09:14:20 pm
hello fellow RS,GhR players,

I want to tell you,share with you that
iBull,aka ross cheats,he told me admitted,several times,after i accused him in a game.
He said he wasn't scared of me telling it,because
he has several accounts.

There is not much to say
believe me,or don't...


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 06, 2003, 09:36:04 pm
 Hmm, let's hear a little more about this, shall we, iMat?

Why would iMat want to get Bull in trouble? Let's see, Bull left FiRE to join MP5.

Anyone who belives iMat is just a damn fool. This is the same iMat who Photoshoped a screen shot of "Ross admiting to cheating," when Ross pointed out that it was Photoshoped, iMat claimed not to have Photoshop, then, in looking at the screen shot, Ross saw a little application on iMat's desktop - Photoshop, also, a .psd document.

Pretty sad, iMat.  


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke (Bull) on April 06, 2003, 09:39:05 pm
subsequently, his ss got removed from the site.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke (Bull) on April 06, 2003, 09:41:23 pm
Actually there was no .psd document or photoshop application. There was a .jpg document which had the standard adobe icon on it. For a guy who claimed to not have "any drawing applications" thats a little strange. straks.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Snipes on April 06, 2003, 10:23:01 pm
Heh, I can see you are new. And, arent you like 8 or somthin? or am I thinking of mattster? lol

- Snipey (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/wallbash.gif)


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 06, 2003, 10:54:22 pm
 Actually Snipey, I think you're thinking of yourself.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: bronto on April 07, 2003, 01:00:32 am
snipey...just...no. just stop posting stupid crap.

back to the main issue here,
im not taking any sides with this but i looked at Ross' screenshot and i noticed that when he was photoshopping it, he pasted the same 2 lines twice one after the other.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on April 07, 2003, 02:01:56 am
Um, well Bull's host is a little weird like after the MP5 vs. FiRE cb we won iMat told me about some weird stuff going on. Like seeing enemies behind walls on the map in red and people dieing from PDW shots where they shouldn't. Not the first time I heard it but whatever.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke (Bull) on April 07, 2003, 02:04:06 am
Good point bronto, i knew someone would bring that up. I copy/pasted that.....in GR. he didnt respond to the first one after like 3 minutes so I said it again. However, ill admit to psing. The second ss with the games menu was psed, based on the first ss.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 07, 2003, 03:12:26 am
 Haz, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. iBull wasn't in the MP5 vs FiRE CB.

FiRE defeats MP5, 2v2, Rogue Spear, 8 games to 6.

Players for MP5: Typhy & Mysterio.

Players for FiRE: Mattster & iMat.

Hmm, no Ross.

Bull's host has had some odd things happen, like the 'Ghosts', ( SS or someone who saw them could probably further explain ), however, Bull is not a cheater.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: bronto on April 07, 2003, 03:20:26 am
I just can't see how someone in such a position as Ross can accuse others of cheating. So far he is the only one with multiple witnesses to strange occurances on his server, even Typhy, his new team mate will admit that. So how come this doesn't happen on anyone elses server? These things that happening on his host, whether you think it's cheating or not, are from Ross editing the game files. And I know Ross knows how the game works, him being an ameteur modder.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on April 07, 2003, 02:23:30 pm
Oops I meant fire vs. rnt.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 07, 2003, 11:55:58 pm
 Of course I 'admit' that strange things happen on his host, I'll 'admit' to anything that is true.

Ross himself admits that strage things happen when he hosts.

Because of what goes on in his games, he doesn't host CBs ( he hosted against AK because Rapid hasn't played on my host since I upgraded my cable, and won't belive me that I can host lagless for 2-6 people ), and there were no problems there.

Ross' data files are probably a bit screwed up, since my guess is that he had to mess with them when he was working out things like his headshot training mod, that is why just yesterday, he ( if he ever found that CD ) reinstalled Rogue Spear.  


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Mr.Mellow on April 08, 2003, 12:42:45 am
Hmm. I'm not going to take any sides, since Ross doesn't host CBs, it's not a problem. However, there is already a headshot practice mod out there, and it's been out for a long time now. Forget the name of it, though. When I was in FBI way back when we used to use it once in a while to practice.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke (Bull) on April 08, 2003, 03:07:13 am
Yeah, but since dling it suked, and nobody wanted to go through fileplanet to get it and then start practice 30 minutes later, and I had no idea how the damn thing worked, I made a server-side version from scratch by myself.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Mr.Mellow on April 08, 2003, 05:36:28 am
So, Ross, the world is dying to know...What'd you do to get banned? Also, now that you're banned, do you have any plans? (A good answer to this: 'I'm going to Disney World!')


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 08, 2003, 05:55:09 am
 And why do I get the feeling I'm next. . .

My AIM is aktyphy, I'll see you there, anytime that you want IPs. Good luck, and I hope you have an enjoyable, but short stay in the BS world of Ban Land. ;)



Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: now you know on April 08, 2003, 06:24:03 am
well, the world will always have cheaters unfortunately...

at least he admitted he cheated!

now you know not to trust him ::)


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Casper on April 08, 2003, 07:39:36 am
Wait, Where was ross ban from?


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke (Bull) on April 08, 2003, 01:12:26 pm
I NEVER ADMITTED TO CHEATING. Dont ever put words in my mouth again bitch! Ok, I have been permabanned from GR. I have some ideas as to why, but it's rather complicated, and I really dont want to share it with anyone. Here's a hint: Never ever ever piss off Evill personally. And especially don't piss off both him and his friends at the same time.


Title: Enumeration and Documentation of Server Problems
Post by: Ross Koepke (Bull) on April 08, 2003, 10:01:50 pm
The only things that have been confirmed by more than one person, are problems that are probably related to having a firewall or lag.

1) My server frequently spits people out at loads and when they die.

2) People report timing out frequently, although this may be a mistake, and they are really seeing "ghosts" (see below).

3) A rather unique problem I have is where people see "ghosts". This is probably often mistaken as timing out. I'll try to describe what happens, which I've pieced together from many peoples very confused reports. It seems that instead of warping, people are getting spliced into different locations. A duplicate of a real person is somehow created in another position, and then mirrors every action that the real person does, like if the real person moves forward, the ghost will move forward, if the real person shoots, the ghost will appear to shoot (although no one has been killed by a ghost). Eventually the ghost usually gets stuck in a corner or stairwell, but people can still watch it duck, lean, reload, and shoot. Sometimes the ghost appears at the beggining of the game in the wrong spawn point, as stealth sniper can tell you. My best guess is that this effect is caused by the computers trying to correct a warp, but not getting rid of the lagged out avatar. It could be caused by my work on mods, but this seems unlikely as all the mods I've worked have related to models, textures, and text changes. The ghosts can also be seen on hbs, possibly causing the effect of seeing impossible and/or false hbs data, making it so that people think that the guy who shot them was 100 yards in front of them, instead of behind them, where they really were.

4) No one has reported any other problems other than these three mentioned earlier. I believe all three are caused by lag and/or by my firewall. It IS possible that these are caused unintentionally by my work in modding, and if anyone can come up with a plausible reason for this, like how any mods could cause these, I would like to hear it. In any case, I have already reinstalled RS, but I will keep my old data in case any more disagreements erupt relating to this, so that we can test whether that may be the case.

5) The only one of those three things that could possibly be considered cheating is number 3. But even so, that would be a rather dumb cheat for anyone to use. In the KoTA vs. FiRE cb (i think, but it may have been RnT), they would ask for rematches due to timeouts, and we would supply them with one. We even switched to their host after the (most likely lag created) problems became too severe, and no more problems occured.

6) This is now a completely stupid issue since I have been banned indefinately from GameRanger.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: bronto on April 12, 2003, 05:09:47 pm
you idiot snipey, this thread was almost dead. you're such a noob.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Now You Know! on April 12, 2003, 08:19:35 pm
It's obvious you tried to cheat.  By trying to mod your data files, to give you an advantage.  That alone is enough proof you're a cheater.  Did you not hear about that kid "rabid" that did the same thing and got banned from BL until 2004?

The only people that cheat, are those that go messing with their data files, to fix textures, ammo and unis.  Obviously, you got stuck messsing with your files in search for a personal advantage,  which lead your RS to get fucked up and start showing random "ghosts" and other BS like timeouts.  Mess with your files, and you can count on your RS not to work properly.   Good job newbie.  Try learning the game, not changing the files to win.  Way to go genius!  And you thought it would be easy...    CHEATERS NEVER PROSPER!


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke on April 12, 2003, 09:39:31 pm
Wow you make a lot of accusations and you dont even tell us who you really are. Spineless Bastard. You obviously dont want anyone to know that you are accusing me of false things. Scared of it reflecting on you later maybe? This is the second time you posted on this topic under this name. Both times you have said things that you completly pulled out of your ass, because you certainly didnt get them from this thread.Posted by: Now You Know!
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By trying to mod your data files, to give you an advantage.? That alone is enough proof you're a cheater
Where the hell did you get this? Sure, we covered the topic that I have worked on mods for and with other other people, as well as on my own. But "to give myself an advantage"?  Where the hell did you get that? And the rest of your whole post is filled with lots of "Always, Nevers, and Obviouslys". This shows that you didn't really think about what you put down and is usually but not always used when people have nothing to back up their arguments. They state an unprovable fact as "Obviously" or that something just "Always" happens. I cant think of one thing that ALWAYS happens, or NEVER happens. That post is comepletly non-credible, with no real name, no one that said anything similar in this thread, and accusing me and "people in general" of things without any facts. Next time you post make it intelligent why don't you?


Title: Bull(Ross) is a cheating, cheap S.O.B.!!!
Post by: You Know ever MORE now! on April 12, 2003, 10:54:20 pm
Ok, to use your terminology you so greatly decline: Your ALWAYS denying the fact you're a cheater, when it's OBVIOUSLY the truth of the matter by the facts presented.  If you weren't a cheater, you wouldn't even have WASTED your time trying to mod files to gain an ADVANTAGE.  That's why you're so desperately trying to defend yourself from your own FOOT in your MOUF!  

Anyways, nice try on the double talk, but the truth is all but too OBVIOUS.  

People that don't cheat, don't trouble themselves into learning how to mod their files for server advantage.  End of story newbie.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke on April 12, 2003, 11:04:08 pm
Cough up a name or shut up. ::)


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: postnobills on April 12, 2003, 11:41:56 pm
i agree with "now you know".


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Casper on April 13, 2003, 06:47:31 am
umm he never said he modded files to his advantage and people do make mods you know.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 13, 2003, 08:44:42 am
 My message to everyone who is accusing Bull of cheating: Shut the fuck up, or cough up some evidence

Bull is not a cheater. I've worked with him lots in MP5 practices, and know him better than any of you. He doesn't cheat.  


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: bronto on April 13, 2003, 06:40:05 pm
Let's just let this thread die and forget about everything.

From here on, anyone who posts anything in this thread shall be considered a klondyke noob (TM).


Klondyke Noobs (TM)
Psyks
Beefy Figure (sry sexy)
Mainman
Ross


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: psyks to lazy to log in on April 13, 2003, 07:07:05 pm
Are u guys dumb or what?Bull moded his host back in fire. He moded it so there would be headshots only for his training in FT. And I dont think Headshots only is an advantage and typhy dont say shit back in AK u always cbed with a moded host like when we 1v1ed way back and u said you took off ur mods when i found more like guns with 5,000 clips.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: BeefyFigure on April 13, 2003, 07:19:04 pm
Psyks, you lazy fuck.   ;D


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: MainMaN on April 13, 2003, 07:51:52 pm
ok, this is kinda stupid.. if you dont have any proof you have no argument. So puting words in bulls or ross or whatever the fuck his name is isnt gona make you any more potiant on your side.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke on April 13, 2003, 10:20:35 pm
Uhm psyks I think that post is somehow related to the topic but for the life of me I can't figure out how. It had no point or argument whatsoever and did not seem to bring anything new to this discussion. whatsoever. whatsoever. damn I like that werd. Whatsoever!


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Typhy on April 14, 2003, 03:00:49 am
 Psyks, you fucking idiot. I was fooling around with single player, so my host was all modded up ( PDW had like 500 shots, same with  the 9mm ). If I'd done that intending to cheat, why would I have told you about it?  Now you're accusing me of doing that in CBs? Typical. You can't beat us, so you make up bullshit about us.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Ross Koepke on April 14, 2003, 03:36:28 am
I think this thread has every right to die.


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: You So Know! on April 14, 2003, 07:56:18 am
point prov3n!  

ross, cheaters mod their hosts.  Typhy admitted he wanted to cheat in single player, to gain an advantage.  How did he do cheat?  By modding  his data files.  

What did you do?  

Mod your data files and then played regular multiplayer games with your modded advantage, also known as: CHEATING.

what do we think?

you're a cheap fucker that everyone will keep their eyes on, like rabid

what should you do?

permanently delete all modded files, and reinstall your rs and never mod it again

will it change anything?

no, because you already tried to cheat everybody.  die, and come back under a new name and DONT try to cheat again newbie.  

Now go DIE! ::)


Title: Re:The Cheating oF iBull a.k.a. -MP5- Ross
Post by: Brain on April 14, 2003, 08:20:16 am
does this sound like rapid to anyone else?

in any event, ross is right. this thread needs to die.

this thread-----> :-[ <-----Me with my 1337 moderator powers