*DAMN R6 Forum

i think he should suffer me idea is. We should rip his skin off so that it's raw and throw salt on him! ;D

Aww, come on man. This topic is completely inappropriate, and makes Americans look bad. That being said, I say we make little cuts on him with razors, and then throw him in a vat of orange juice. Now, I don't think we should do it, but if you're thinking of the best way to give someone a lot of pain, that'd be it. But still, a little bit of a tacky subject. :P He's no worse than any other ruthless dictator. But, please note, I'm not anti-war, so don't flame me...

I think they should drop him off in the middle of Times Square with his buddy Bin Laden wearing "I hate American" tee-shirts on.

Unfortunately the US is (allegedly) a law abiding country so they are not permitted to act in creul or unusual ways (or violate the Geneva Convention).  Lethal injection should do.

 For saying such a thing, I think we should do as you propose to you, Mr. Wuggles.

 

If he is found by special operations, he will be executed (if he is caught) or just shot (even if he is trying to surrender).

We don't want to make a public trial about this because it might serve as a rallying point for radical muslims.

I say we transport him to America, give him a fair trial, and sentance him to a life in prison. The US would look like the most moralistic country in the world, for a day at least.

If he were to be put on trial, it would be for war crimes and there would be no life in prison - he would probably go before a firing squad.

Anyway, he will never be captured alive...he will be killed by us (if he really isn' t already dead...who knows?) or he will go out like Hitler and commit suicide in his luxurious bunker.

 I'd say it's far more likely that he will go out like Osama Bin Laden, or Taliban leadership - Disapear.  

ok,
we can't have cruel and unusual punishment technicaly...
but what we can do is this, put him on trail, grease him up, and throw him in prison. Think of all the cruel things (and places) they'd do to him in there.

Jesus people.  Isn't it enough for you to be the judge and jury?  Now you have to be the executioner too?

The whole point of fair trials in America is that often there is evidence to guilt or innocence other than that which the press or government makes available.

The media and the Bush administration have condemned Hussein.  But since you know virtually none of the facts, stop being little sheep and puppetting along to the exact viewpoint people you're supposed to have.  If you want to believe Saddam is a terrible person, which may likely be true, fine - but you have absolutely no grounds to call for his blood.

No one in America has the moral authority to demand Saddam's demise.

Why not rip his clothes off and shave all his body hair, then throw him in a pit with angry kurds with stones? That would be the most fair punishment imo.

well maby what i said was a lil extreme but maby we should send him 2 prison in mexico and let him get ass raped 4 the rest of his life

If the americans catch him, i most certainly hope they will not put him on trial in their own country. He would be convicted in no time, and the rest of the world would, probably rightly so, believe that the trial was a facade.
In my humble opinion, the best course of action for the USA is to, once they have him, turn Saddam over to the International Court in the Hague, so he can be tried and convicted with his fellow war criminals.

You guys are violent/sadistic. I don't even wish this stuff on Dubya, and I hate him way more than I hate Saddam. And no I'm not saying that I think he is worse than Saddam in any way, I just hate him more because he has a direct effect on my life and Saddam doesn't.

Other ridiculous thing: the Bush adminstration declaring Saddam the worst leader in world history. What happened to Hitler and Stalin? Besides just those two, there are probably twenty other leaders in all of world history more ruthless and unscrupulous than Hussein.

ok those last 2 posts were not mine it was fire maniac.... i agree with him but i dont want my ass chewed out anymore in this forum! ;D

look.
sin is right
being moralistic is fine and all, but let's face it, if a spec ops team finds sadaam, they will kill him, unless they have damnned specific orders not to (and i bet the orders are to kill).  if, by some act of a higher power sadaam is found by an enlisted soldier, i would bet that the soldier will shoot on sight, and he'd get off scott free too.
why you ask? because sadaam was 'going for a gun'. sure he'll go to trial, but who is going to testify against him? one of his squad mates? i doubt it.

that said, if sadamm is captured, he's either going to rot in jail, or he is going to the hauge, after which, he will promptly rot in a grave

and if i had to shoose a way for sadaam to go, it would be a bullet to the brain. this fiasco had dragged on long enough. thet last thing the us needs is a messy death on their hands (although shooting him in the liver is tempting too)

Hmm. . .you all seem so sure of yourselves.  And what authority to you have to discuss such a murder so cooly?  Gee, I'd like to shoot you in the liver too.  Maybe I'll rip your skin off first - but not until you've rotted in a hellhole of a prison for a while first.  If you really beg, I'll give you a farce of a trial before I disembowel your ass.

Why?  Oh...I was told you're terrible.

Loudnotes, these are the mere facts and you choosing the ignore them doesn't change that. There has been plenty of analysis on whether or not we would want Saddam alive or dead, and it has been agreed upon by almost everybody with a say in it that we want his ass dead for the reasons I said above.

If we find him, we will kill him - just like we tried to do to Hitler before he committed suicide.

Added-on: Loudnotes, if Brain gassed his own people (lets say he was President and decided to gas all the Blacks in this country) by all means shoot him in the liver and do whatever you want. This isn't about someone saying he is evil, we all know what Saddam has done, and there is no debate about that. You cannot under any circumstances make that type of a comparison.

The point is, the people making that analysis, and subsequently this thread - are not really qualified to make that kind of judgement.  Ask a Kurd, or ask an Iraqi.  But Saddam still hasn't done anything to any of us, certainly not on a scale for the country to be clamoring for his blood.

Regarding this entire war -  Today 1000 people were massacred in the Congo.  I'm not sure of the primary leader behind that, because the media hasn't vilified any one person.  But tell me, is their any reason we as the US shouldn't demand that leader's death?  Should we fight a war on their soil to prevent future deaths of innocents?  Can we compare this to Hitler?  If those are justifications in Iraq, we damn well better do the same the entire world over.  Which, logistically, is impossible.

Because Congo is in a civil war and all the of the factions and countries involved in it (yes, there are troops from Zimbabwe and other countries int he region) can equally attack the other unlike the Kurds against Saddam.

Anyway, the reasons for this war aren't solely about the people of Iraq, we are also afraid that he will someday use one of his WMD against the mainland US and that is unacceptable. If the leader or whoever did the massacre int eh Congo was in full power, had WMD,a nd was a sworn enemy of the US, I guarantee you we would go in there too.

That are yet to be found...

There is enough circumstantial evidence that has been uncoverd thus far for me to believe that he has WMD. Atropine injectors, chem/bio suits, weapons training facility...no nation would ever have such material if they did not in fact posess chemical and or biological weapons.

You also forget that the main hunt begins when his army is no longer a threat and we conduct our own style of inspections with commando raids.

It is only a matter of time before we pick up one of his weapons.

loud, i just want to point out thati said it would be TEMPTING to shoot him in the liver. just like it is tempting to strangle some of the morons i meet in everyday life. just because it is tempting doesnt mean i'm goind to do it.

i believe i posted the most 'humaine' way (if you can apply humain to this sort of a dicsussion)

i nowhere in my post clamored for blod as you so elloquently put it. i mearly stated what i believed was going to happen. (and you can bet that if we do put sadaam on trial, there wont be a coalition judge presidin, i would bet a scottish, irish, swiss or other more neutral judge will preside)

so, does sadaam deserve to die? i think he does, only we shouldnt do it. i say hand him over to the people he has bombed and gassed, and then walk away. they have the righ to  cry for his blood. are we doing wrong if we let them have what they want?

if they do a good job hunting him down like they did with bin laden, i guess it can only be years till they find him... IF they find him...

I doubt Saddam will be as hard to find as Usama is.

I think my suggestion is the most fair, give him to a couple of kurds and let time have it's course.

I think Sadaam should retire in New Jersey. Actually I kind of hope he lives. My inner journalist would like to interview him. I could care less how he dies though. There have been rumours that he died 6 years ago from cancer. Most likley he will just disappear.

...the saddam-bin laden analogy seems to be quite popular here.

a)saddam is a head of state, bin laden is a terrorist and a fugitive. a head of state leaves quite a paper trail and relies on more ppl than a terrorist.
b)bin laden lived in a cave somwhere in the mountains with only a select few ppl who know where he is, whereas saddam is in baghdad surrounded by his gang of crooks. also, i doubt his doubles are gonna be very useful: who in their right mind would want to pose as a guy who is being sought after by the entire US military, especially when that guy isnt in control of the state apparatus anymore. there arent any osama lookalikes.....ever wonder why?
c)osama bin laden can be tried in front of a US court on terrorism charges. prosecuting saddam via the court system is much more problematic. he belongs in front of the ICC in my opinion, but neither iraq nor the us signed the treaty, so its not gonna happen.

bottom line: if saddam is still alive, which is not 100% certain, hes got less than month to live.
the dumbass should have gone into exile in saudi arabia, chilled on the beach with idi amin and discussed what its like being a murdering sociopath-dictactor, but no.....he aint goin' out like dat!! so if you ask me, he deserves nothing less than what hes gonna get: a bullet in the skull. and brain, that guy would get a court-martial, hed get a medal. saddam is fair game.

and congo-zaire is a complete mess that cant be traced back to one single (alive) person....mubutu, the cleptocrat, got overthrown at the time of the rwanda genocide, after which all the hutus who had participated in the massacres fled to congo, which was in chaos, to avoid being prosecuted. also, about 5 or 6 neighboring countries sent there army in, which made things even more messed up......its a tricky situation and there is little the US could do to stop the tribal massacres, like the one this morning. also, as somone already said,there is no security risk to the US.

and bondo: stop saying he has no wmds. the US, USSR, Germany, France, Italy etc. all sold him weapons, including chemical and biological. hell, france even tried to sell him a nuclear reactor!! he would have nuke today, if it was up to the french. we know he had the stuff in '91 (this is not disputable) so tell me where did it go???

I only said none have been found, not that he didn't have any.  And add the US as a country that sold him WMDs.  Perhaps he disarmed?  And in reply to Sin, perhaps he has those from back when he had them.  There is no doubt he HAD WMD, I simply state that it has not been proven that he HAS them.

i dont think it will be all that easy finding him. mb he is already gone...

After the last bombing run that leveled a series of houses, he is probably gone....but we wont know until we recover a body like we did of "Chemical Ali" in Basra.

a man with the power and money like saddam could probably disappear from the map, just as bin laden did. mb he doesnt want to leave though...

i think saddam is an syria and i think osama is dead cuz there is a lil rumor that once a mans job is fulfilled in the al quida they kill themselves with honor and hands the reins to someone else and they think that rumor is pretty true 8)