*DAMN R6 Forum

In the CB, we started out me and StealthSniper vs pat and yoshida.  Yoshida had to go, so we waited for a sub of theirs.  He got Pun.  We started, then SS had to go, so I went and got Monk.  While I was getting Monk, Pun left.  Now pat's saying his clan wins, because he can't get another member to log on.  Pun left, and now that no KotA will sign on, he wants to post a win by forfeit!   Come on now!  Our guys are here! Yours aren't! :o

StealthSniper left, and we got Monk.  Then Pun left, and we been waiting for another KotA to sign on! :o

Now Pat wants to leave, but post a quick forfeit, since another KotA hasn't logged on!  I don't think so bud.  Doesn't work that easy.  

If anything, we been waiting for a sub for pun for over 45 minutes, and since none came, we would claim forfeit from you guys.  I don't want that.  I rather play out the games!  But if you're going to try and claim a forfeit, we're the ones that would deserve that forfeit.  

Onec again Pat, you DON'T know it all and you are wrong to think you are entitled a win because you couldn't get another member and you were ahead. :o

I understand you feel as if you should win since none of your members would log on like you wanted and you were ahead in the game.  But you knew ?? would have to go and I would have to get a sub.  I'm not about to just let you say "Cool, ?? left, so we win".   Sorry bud.  And being that I got a sub 5 minutes after, and you haven't gotten one in 45 minutes...    Mauti.  Let us know pls.

First off.

• Yoshi left in warmups. The cb had never started and it just so happened that pun was right there to START the cb.
• We switched host, and a few games into Stealth's host, we're up 5-2 and SS has to leave.
• Pun assumes that the cb is over because that is how most people play... if you're up by 5-2 and the other team leaves in the middle of the cb... there has been an unspoken rule that you win. By forfeit or not.
• I said that if us both could produce enough members to continue the CB in the 30 minutes I had left to play, that it would be continued
• I had b3sk8r and Rapid refused to cb against him.
• I had to go during Rapid and Monk's session of calling me a noob and a pussy for not having a member online... and I posted.

I wasn't entitled to wait 30 minutes for us both to get members online and continue the cb, right? At one point, for about 15 minutes, it was only Rapid and I chatting about things and then Monk signed on. At 30 minutes no ?KotA's were on and I had to go. They managed to keep me 15 minuets later than I wanted and still no ?KotA's were to be seen except b3sk8r, whom Rapid turned down. 'I don't cb PC'ers,' or something to that extent was Rapid's reply.

man pat...

I warned you not to try this BS.   These are the FINALS

We waited for you to get your sub.  Why would you not wait for our sub, and then go saying you win?   Sorry.  Doesn't work that way.

You knew ?? had to leave, and I would have to get a sub.  Not my fault pun decided to leave as well.

In fact, I said I'll be happy to wait for your complete team to come back to finish.

Somehow, that's not good enough, and you rather try and win by forfeit.  

Too bad we didn't forfeit.  Our player had to leave.  I had to get a sub.  I got one in 5 minutes.  You said you'd wait 30 minutes.  You waited 45 and had none of your members log on.  Not our fault we're ready to continue, and you're not.  

Rule #16 Clans are allowed to substitute new teammates in for the battle only between host sessions(R6 and RS) or to replace a player who crashed. In Ghost Recon you can only replace a player if someone crashed. If someone has to leave midgame you have to continue the cb with the current players except you can replace the player within 5 minutes.  

I got Monk within 5 minutes, and while I did that, pun left.   We then proceeded to wait 45 minutes for another KotA to log on to replace Pun.  There you go.

I see, I see. Hmmm from your stories both would get the win.

Rapid could you please comment this:


However Pat 5-2 doesn't mean you would have won. I have seen many cbs where the other team has managed a turnaround and won.

Mauti

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! Rapid, you didn't get monk within 5 minutes!! rofl. If you ask me, it was closer to 20. But don't worry, once I find "|?K| Monk has joined the room" I'll show you that it was way more than 5 minutes. I have also seen that pun is 25+ names below than SS and Monk is even farther. Pun was on GR for at least 5 minutes before he left.

Before the CB started, Pat asked me to cb him and b3.  I told him I rather not play vs PC'ers(due to their cheats and all) and because at the top of the bl page it says ?Mac only? on one of your icons.  But that was before the CB started.  He then managed to get yoshida, and then Pun(2 Mac Gamers that were on GR).  When we were waiting afterwards, b3 wasn't available as I asked him to sub him in, since no other KotA would log on.  

well I have one question: Mauti, it says on that icon in your BL title page  ?Mac only league? if thats the case than why are pc players alowwed to cb?

In the BL rules you will find a definition:

"*DAMN Battle League: clanladder only for MAC(Apple Macintosh) clans operating in GameRanger. Other platform players are allowed in clanbattles as long as the majority is using Macs. Only clanbattles set up through GameRanger are counted;"

That's why it says Mac only.

Bye,

Mauti
ps: I'm to tired to decide about this issue yet... good night...(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/sleeping.gif)

Approximately 68 users logged in between Stealth/Monk entering GameRanger and 49 had entered between the time Pun left and Monk joined

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I just IP'ed SS's game with Grape where he and Rapid were having a private session of some sort and asked Rapid to finish the CB. He turned us down and said to leave the decision to Mauti....
 By the way... I ss'd Rapid turning me down.

lmao pat

Just go for a rematch is my suggestion.

Well, i think its in Rapids best interest to continue the cb then leave it up to Mauti. Mauti will probably just rule this a forfeit win for Kota becasue b3 was an exceptable sub with the cb should have continued with.

Rapid, plz dont write a long drawn out reply as to how the mods are against you. this decision is my interpretation of the rules.

I hate to say it, but Rapid is 100% correct, if I understand the facts correctly.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to turn down a PC sub. If they can get on GR and play through a mac, then you need to let them play, if not, then it's completly fair for you to turn down their sub.

The only 'sub' that I had was b3sk8r. And it wasn't even a sub, Rapid was the one who needed to find a sub within 5 minutes of the stoppage of play. Rapid found a sub after 69 ( :o ) members logged into the Bar & Grill, which should prove that it took at least 5+ minutes to find a sub.
The time had passed for Rapid to get a sub, as his member was the one to leave the CB and thus stop it. Punisher stayed online for 10-15 minutes (21 or so users logged in between the time SS got off and Pun logged out).
BTW, these aren't BS results. I hadn't logged out of GR so I just had to find the spots in the Main Chat where users logged in/out.

BS typh. You're comepletely wrong....100%

I can't believe it. Every single issue Rap argues in, you butt in and side with him. Sometimes you might make a few harsh comments to him, but then you later go back on them...We'll talk later.(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/wallbash.gif)

And as for you rap, just cause you write long drawn out speaches, in which you constantly repeat youself with your goofy lil grey font...mind you it is very anoying to read...

The only reason I am insult you and your stupid pointless 100% false arguement is:
                               1. You start this topic with a flame war in               mind (Try to act more mature in BL matters ;) more like me)
                               2. You repeat yourself constantly and mock the admins...tisk tisk
                               3. You lie
                               4. You turned down the challenge to continue the CB dispite your challenge here.
      sidenote          (5). I get the feeling you be stealing my typhoe
SLUT!

Well Myst, considering that this is the first issue over a CB since I left AK. . .

Onto your ?points,? Myst.


Start a flame war? What choice did he have other than to ?start a flame war?? KotA was trying to count a BS CB, so he came in and explained what had really happened.


What? Don?t we all?


That?s one thing I liked about being in AK, Rapid is very honest, and would never lie.


There is more to each turndown than you can see from the outside. Perhaps one of them needed to leave, or wouldn?t have time?


Oh, hell no. Even if Rapid were to invite me back to AK and offer me a co leadership spot, I wouldn?t come.

Pat: Cut out the bullshit stats, and give us a figure that makes a little bit of sense. Tell me how long you were waiting, not ?how many users logged in and out,? to me, that sounds like the delay was probably only a couple minutes, so you?re throwing in stats like that to try and make it seem like longer.

Here is a timeline of the CB, tell me if it?s correct:

Event 1: CB starts, during warmups/tests, Yoshida has to leave, Punisher comes in as a sub for him.

Event 2: KotA takes a 5-2 lead.

Event 3: StealthSniper has to leave.

Event 4: Punisher leaves due to ?assuming that the CB is over?.
Event 5: Rapid gets a teammate on, and KotA are unable to complete the CB.

If that is correct, and I were Rapid ( god forbid it ), then I would be arguing that the CB should be counted in AK?s favor, since KotA was unable to complete it.

Although, I think in a CB with this much confusion, also considering the fact that KotA was ahead, it should simply be dropped.

Just a bit of advice to you, Pat, sometimes it?s best not to argue something, even if you think it?s a bit unfair, in order to keep good relations with other members of the community. Most likely the top 6 clans will be the same next season too, and if you keep this up, both AK and MP5 won?t CB you, so your CBs will me limited to 3 clans, which will make it very tough for you.

Just a suggestion,
Typhy[/color]

Ok, here's the deal.  Rapid paged me, and told me to please log on and help him finish a CB vs KoTA.  I was able to log on 3 minutes later.  When I logged on, Pun was already gone.  We then proceeded to wait respectably, for another KotA member to log on.  No member ever showed up.  Then pat had to leave, and started saying he was going to post the win.  We were like, "why?, we're here ready and waiting."  He then rambled on how he's a BL mod and knows the rules better.  I don't see how he can say we forfeit, when we were there ready.

Also, Rapid asked pat to get b3, since no other KotA's would log on, but pat said b3 was afk also.  Time passed on(about 45 minutes) and then pat had to leave.  

We offered him to finish the CB later when both teams had available teams(Because we didn't want a cheap forfeit win).  Instead, the little rat tried to forfeit this CB against us!  Now I don't feel so bad to ask for a forfeit against them.

Is that the only way for you to win CB's pat?  Damn noob.

Mysterio, you obviously know nothing, ranting on and on in your stereotypical way.

didn't sign on for a good 15 minutes after SS left. Pun signed off about 5 minutes before MOnk got on. So, no Typhy, this isn't a BS cb. The reason I didn't say how many minutes because I figured that Rapid would just try to contradict me so I busted out the #'s.
And hitting on one of Monk's points... you weren't waiting for 45 minutes Monk, Rapid and I were. You were there for 30 minutes tops.
Oh, and Monk, when you come to comment on a situation. Please don't come here with a completely biased speech. Not once did I mention that my admin powers exalted me from the norm about rules... rules weren't even mentioned. It was just a rant from you and Rapid about how I'm a noob and how I won't cb you because I'm a pussy... when I had NO MEMBER and NO TIME to cb with. Plus, Rapid never accepted b3 to play. He even admitted to me that he didn't accept him.
Typhy, we weren't the ones who needed to find a sub. Rapid's sub came about 10-15 minutes after SS closed the game and left. There is no way in hell that us not finding a 'sub' should count against .. ahh us. ;). The rule says that the clan whose player leaves must come up with a sub within 5 minutes. Rapid's sub came 10-15 minutes later and I had agreed to wait 30 minutes to see if both of us could get a sub (after pun had left me) and if not, I would go eat my birthday dinner after posting. AK found their sub, just 5-10 minutes late, technically speaking, and my 'sub' wasn't allowed to play because he is an evil 'PC'er'

Seeing as it's impossible to really get the truth behind this debacle (whatever either side says would be hearsay), both sides might as well just continue the CB where they left off. It would have/will save more time than bickering about it in the forums, stop the starting of more flame arguements, and probably be the fairest decision for both sides.

yep, i agree. With each post my mind changes as to what clan i believe. So I think that AK is being the bigger clan here by saying they will let bygones be bygones and continue the cb. (with original players of course) Just finish the cb and save us all the headace please. And stop being immature babies.

lick my nuts voodoo ;). we already asked AK to finish the CB while they were in game practicing! we IP'd their game and asked to continue. they refused..... so much for continuing. Saying that AK was being the bigger clan is completely wrong because we took the first step and asked to continue the cb. Rapid first screamed boot, heard me, then refused to continue.

well, if your willing to continue, and rapid is willing to continue, wtf is stoping that from happening?

get it on bro.

Yes, both Pat and Rapid (or other representatives of either clan) should post here their intentions to continue the CB (for written proof, to stop potential bitching) and get on with it. If one side refuses, they should just get the loss.

I can't continue when he says that he's not willing to continue because he wants to leave the decision up to Mauti, bro. (owned, vd ;) )

Oh well I came to a decision. It is impossible for me to see who is right here.

As a consequence you have to continue the best of ten cb(or whatever it was) at the last score(5-2). You aren't allowed to cb until you finished this cb. If you have a chance to play against another clan, because KoTa or AK isn't online, your results won't be posted except it is a loss. So it is in your both interest to finish this cb as soon as possible!

Bye,

Mauti

 Well, in my opinion, AK would still have a very good case for trying to have that counted as a forfit in their favor. I think that in this case, the smart thing to do for AK would've been to post it.

On the subject of Pat as a moderator: I think it was a mistake, because of his lack of forum experience. One thing that I like about him is that he's willing to take a look at the facts, and doesn't form an early opinion that he's not willing to change once shown the facts. However, I think his lack of forum knowledge and skills work against him. I don't quite know how to discribe him. . . Perhaps as "not neutral enough". Things such as his modify to his post in the Drop Box of <waits for rapid's bs> or something like that is unacceptable for a moderator.

Anyway, Rapid, I don't recommend arguing this any further, since I understand that this is a first to 10 CB, just get out there, play your best, and you'll come out on top.  

Just stating rule 16 Clans are allowed to substitute new teammates in for the battle only between host sessions(R6 and RS) or to replace a player who crashed. In Ghost Recon you can only replace a player if someone crashed. If someone has to leave midgame you have to continue the cb with the current players except you can replace the player within 5 minutes. They only had to wait 5 mins O well this works out better :)

The bitching continues...I propose something that I forced clans to do all the time when Ult and I were the only BL mods:

Each side post 5 acceptable times to continue the cb...both sides agree on ONE set time and finish the cb, no questions asked (Failure to show up for this agreed upon time would result in forfeiture for the team that fails to show - so before setting up times, you MUST make sure that you can definitely have clan members online).

This is BS. I already challenged rapid to continue... and he said he wouldn't. Bad call.

well where from is coming this "rule" wait for 30 m in rs rules? i dont c anything

Again this rule is not realy clear:
1--Clans are allowed to substitute new teammates in for the battle only between host sessions(R6 and RS) or to replace a player who crashed. In Ghost Recon you can only replace a player if someone crashed. If someone has to leave midgame you have to continue the cb with the current players except you can replace the player within 5 minutes.

1-In Ghost Recon you can only replace a player if someone crashed.
2-If someone has to leave midgame you have to continue the cb with the current players except you can replace the player within 5 minutes.

Is 2 part of GhR rules or it is inside the rule 16, i dont c a ; or : after part 1
so it lez me think general rule speak about u have  5 m to sub a player and also than now in 1.64 u can sub only a player in ghost recon if some1 crashed and nothing else
again the best should be to have  RS rules and GHR rules, not merged..

well big mess coz the rules
So far from what i have read i think Rapid is right and can ask a forfeit

Horda the rules are more than clear about this.

But Pat can't say how long Monkey really needed and Rapid also doesn't have a proof so they should continue and everything is fine!

Mauti

I think Muati's answer to this issue works in the same way. If they dont continue the cb none of there other cb's will be counted in the finals.

...finish it fellas, or there only b 4 clans left to cb if we get one at all.... ;( grrrrr..

fire is sitting there comfortably ;) , at last we get to cb as much as we want ---> well lets get out there and fight

im missing the sportsmanship


Rnt r the men that god made mad,
4 all our wars r meryy and all our songs r sad!!! ::)

So in ghost recon we can sub only if some1 crash and not If someone has to leave midgame

thats it ?

Mauti, I disagree with your decision for several reasons.  It's not that I don't want to play |AK| again, I have no qualms in facing them off.  I believe that this CB should be squared away as a KotA victory and the next time we face |AK| is with a 0-0 score in a whole new CB.  
The Facts.

• KotA has a 5-2 lead when Stealth Sniper leaves.
• Due to BattleLeague Rules, Rapid has five minutes to find a sub.
• Pun leaves about 15 minutes after Stealth signed off.
• Monk signs on about 5 minutes after Pun left or approximately 15 minutes after SS had to go.
• When Monk got there, the CB was already over, due to Rule #16 of the BL. I agreed to Rapid that if I could get another member onn, before I had to go, that we could continue the CB.

Stepping back for a second... Forgive me if I am wrong, but the CB was technically over as a KotA win. My agreeing to wait was just an "honorable" gesture, which unfortunately failed.  Back to the facts.

• While in MOnk's waiting room, I said that the only member I had was b3sk8r, and Rapid admitted that he wouldn't accept playing a PC'er.
• I had to leave approximately 45 minutes after SS did, and I returned to GR about an hour later.
• When I signed on, Mr. Grape was online and I saw that Rapid and Stealth were in a 2 player game on Stealth's host. "What a perfect opportunity," thought I, "to clear up this whole mess."
• Grape and I IP joined their game only to have our challenge turned down by Rapid. (I have SS's of this).

As you can see, |AK| has turned down our challenges two times. By Battle League Rules, we weren't forced to try to continue the CB. THey turned down our attempts at continuation by not accepting on of our players and a simple "no," in game.
Clearly, this is a forfeit by |AK| because of rule #16 alone. NOt to mention, our two attempts at continuing the CB.
And Typhy, of course my opinion on this issue isn't perfectly neutral. It's about my own clan! I haven't been biased on other areas when the parties involved don't concern me. I'm also trying my hardest to be 'neutral' on this issue by stating facts! Unlike Rapid, who is making long, drawn out speeches where he calls me a 'n00b' several times and repeats himself even more.
Mauti, I think that proof enough that it took 5+ minutes for Monk to get on was that 69 users logged in or out to the Bar and Grill between the time that Stealth and Monk logged on/off. 69 users logging in or out takes at least 5 minutes in The Construct! Much less the Bar & Grill!
 Another thing, Monk says that Rapid paged him and 3 minutes later he logged on. We got out of the game at around 5:55 pm eastern US time... (I looked at the clock) and Rapid said that Monk gets to leave his day job at 6:00. Monk got on at around 6:10.   I am getting these times from variously looking at the top right of my mac.

I am mystified as to how you can still dispute the facts I have stated and not give the game to KotA! If you read everything above, it seems more than conclusive

First in response to Horda where does it says that if you have to leave midgame counts only for RS???

Pat first if Rapid says the truth and it needed less than 5 minutes AK would get the win. If you are right you would get the win but obviously you both can't provide proofs how long it needed. As it says in the rules we are only interested in finished cbs. Finish it and everything is fine. You were leading 5-2 and if you played a best of ten you only need one win - shouldn't be that difficult.

Bye,

Mauti

Rapid you make no sense... but we will cb tonight.

@ Mauti:

rules 16

well when i c the rule i c :
In ghost recon u can ONLY replace a player if some1 crashed . <---DOT

then blabla 5 m

so i was not sure

but if u say that we can in ghost recon sub (crash or not) in 5 m

all fine for me

I want to make a comment on this because I think Rapid was being unfair to KoTA. There is no rule that states you're allowed to refuse a substitute, am I correct? The PC player is a member of KoTA. Rapid refused to allow KoTA to use their only available substitute, and somehow this is KoTA's fault? That doesn't seem fair to me at all. What if AK needed a substitute, and the only substitute on was Bob Dole? Well, if KoTA says, "No, Bob Dole uses a Telefunken U-48 computer, and there's rumors that he cheats.", and then refuses to finish the CB, I think the BL would say that KoTA was acting unfairly and give the win to AK. I don't want to be out of line here, but it seems like if Rapid argues enough, he will always get his way.

Well,  it takes one of my own members to actually make some sense, good job mellow, but this is what Ive been saying the whole time. But we would rather see the cb end legitamatly then a forfiet taken. Rapid would argue the earth is flat if he thought it were true.  ;D

OK I JUST SPEND 15 MINUTES READING THIS AND OVER AGAIN

All of you, regardless of how high and mighty you think you are, you need to go back and read reply #36. This is how to properly argue a position on a web forum. No swearing, no giant letters to bring your point across. Very well written Pat. (I used to spend loads of time on board where the average age was 40 not 18 like here. Nice to see a well constructed post.)

#1: Rapid's refusal of a PC player is nothing but BS on his part. He had no problem playing our AgT PC'er earlier this season and has no reason to think b3 cheats other then what platform he uses. My personal opinion is that this should end the arguement. If that's not how Mauti feels it's his call I suppose. Monk saying he  (b3) wasn't available with no evidence other then the word of an AK (something always questioned by 90% of this community). Should that even matter if he was rejected by Rapid when he was ready (and very arguable he wasn't)? Pat is the only one to bring hard facts to the table.

#2: Pat has already asked Rapid to continue the CB. He has screenshots to prove it. This again seems to be the end of the road. Rapid shouldn't be able to say now 'I will continue the CB' after denying KOTA before.

The CB couldn't be finished because AK wouldn't play against a PC player (despite having no qualms with it in the past). The CB also wouldn't be resumed by AK at the time KOTA was ready.

Rapid, I love how you change tactics all of a sudden when you know you lost. It's great, I win the argument and you try and rip on my mod powers. Even better, is I haven't done a damn thing to abuse them! ROFL! You are so lucky, my friend, that Mauti is on your side for this one.
Oh, and the only reason I went into Monk's room was to wait for a member because I had every intention of continuing the CB if a member came on. Time ran out, and my gesture did too. I feel bad about all of this "abusing my moderator powers"... I didn't know that it was against the moderating rules to argue with you and win, bitch. (Here's your favorite smiley, enjoy)  :o

And Rapid... I did give it enough time. More than enough! You couldn't get a member in the appropriate time (5 minutes) and you know it. If you had one, and Pun left, then it would be a forfeit by ?KotA! I know that, but the thing is... Monk wasn't on within 5 minutes of Stealth leaving. And, Mauti, if you don't realize that from all my evidence... well, I don't know what to say.

What evidence Pat? I didn't see any evidence. 68log ins means nothing. You say you waited longer than 5 mins and Rapid said Monk was there within 5 minutes. If Monk wouldn't be there within 5 minutes Rapid would have to continue alone. Pun left the game so you were alone when Monk was online so you would have to continue...

If you all would follow the rules there would be much less troubles. Pat you could have said 5mins are over lets continue 2vs1 5-2 or you give us the win. You didn't instead you waited until one of your members had to leave. Now Rapid could have said the same...

This situation is your both fault and only your fault. So finish it as ordered and period.

Mauti
ps: Rapid my decision has already been posted - if there is no new evidence it won't be changed.

You are trusting their word! ROFL! Monk said that it took him 3 minutes to log on after Rapid paged him. You don't have to take my 69 log ins for evidence.. take it from their own friggen' words! Do you seriously think that rapid got on the phone and paged Monk at 5:55 when we got out of the game and Monk got on at 5:58 when his day job ends at 6:00?!?!?!?!

Mauti,

I don't understand why Rapid is being given a second chance.

He said he wouldn't continue the CB. So now because people are bitching he's allowed to go back on his word?

If BL rules indicate to you that the CB needs to be finished I'd agree with you. After everything with the players leaving and the rest of that BS is dealt with you are left with the conclusion that the CB needs to be finished.

Pat tried to do that. Rapid wouldn't have it.

Rapid did not comply with BL rules. His loss.

Here's the evidence you need.   Here it clearly shows Pat was willing to continue the CB with unreasonable conditions.  Once he knew we had a GO TEAM, he had no right to say he doesn't have to continue, and instead turn in a win! :o

Once he agreed to continue, that was it.  Can't just say "Sry that you guys are ready, but I have no teamates and we were ahead, you lose"

The fact he didn't get his wish of a teamate at his convenience within his "time", gives him NO right to say we weren't ready and able to finish the CB within BL guidelines, and instead of finishing solo, he turned around and posted they won since they were ahead.  His intentions are very clear on this comment.

What more do you need? :o  

Stop trying to weasel your way out of the CB and just go finish it. ;) Mauti already made his decision.

Rapid, you moron. Due to rule #16, I am not the one who had to go solo. If anyone, it was you! You were the one who needed to find a sub... which you didn't within the five minutes that was needed. You're turning the tables on yourself because it was |AK| who lost their member and needed to come up with a sub within five minutes. Not kota.

OK, Rapid. Go online tonight at around 5-6 pm eastern. I will be there, waiting. Pun is normally on at 4:30-5. Let's get this over with then forget the whole issue. Tell me your time if 5-6 isn't good for you.

OMFG! Look at you two bitching back and forth about a stupid fuckin cb, ?he was five minutes late?, ?No, he didnt have a sub?....blah blah fuckin blah! I really don't give a rats ass who wins this one, you're both acting like lil kids. Mauti made a great call, finish it now and stop whining.

Rapid stop acting like a bl pimp and finish this one so none of us have to listen to this anymore. 5-2 Kota, your server, first to 10....easy as that.

And Pat, I see you are willing to finish this which is good, now lock this stupid thread and leave it as is. Tonight is the last chance to finish this...after that if ?K isn't able to finish then the win will go to KoTA... ;D

I'm waiting to see Mauti's reactions after the evidence posted.

If indeed he does want us to finish still, after the evidence brought forward, then I'll have no problem.  Of course, I will have to do it when I have available members, and that doesn't mean necessarily tonite, even though that would be ideal. (I really hope I do have a teamate on tonite).  If not, we'll finish it asap when we both have teamates available.  Easy as that.

Kilzo, I know this shit sucks, but it all could've been avoided if your dumbass teamate pat, would've followed the rules, and not tried to post a win against us that he didn't trully win.  I got my teamate within 5 minutes.  I posted that, and so did Monk.  Pat's here by himself arguing otherwise, and is being believed over 2 people that were there.  Go figure...  :o

We get such the poor treatment, even when the facts are so loud and clear...

*sigh*

Rapid, you are growing more and more annoying with each post. You already heard Mauti's "Ruleing". I suggest you finish the cb at the time that Pat asked you to be on or of a time that you both can be on. There is NO "new evidence". Everything that you both say is repeatative. Case closed, winner post the score in the Drop Box.

this thread is now locked unless Mauti has more to say.