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A few ppl ive spoken to cant get this to update their copy of Ghr. It seems to be ppl with OS9 like myself.
What happens is GR doesnt recognise that GhR has been updated and keeps telling u that u need 2 update even though uve already done it.
I trashed and inatalled GhR 3 times today, driving me mad it is!
I found also that GR wont recognise that I have the game installed on my computer which is weird, chatting 2 Rapid he has found the same thing. Zippo figured a way to fix this u have to go into the new folder called GhR 1.0.2b and in there is Contents>Mac OS open this and already having moved the original GhR app to ur desktop, move the updated app to the main GhR folder.
GameRanger should now recognise you. But it will still tell u 2 fuck off when u try 2 play!
So any way u can do this if u wanna waste some of ur life!
Srry 4 the long post, im lonely.............
hehe
C o k e
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lol,  I hear ya. I am using X and am not too thrilled about this patch.  If ya can get it to work stability is much better.  But I had a problem with installing it on Jaguar, and I literally had to make another installation in another folder to install the patch.  it said that it was either already installed or that it wouldnt install on this copy of ghr.  But in OS X it seeemed to do the trick by reinstalling both patches onto a fresh copy of ghr.  There might be another thing as well that might hang it up.  Try to take the mods out of the mods folder and retry the update.  Sometimes that works for some reason.  
     I must say though playing it in the other games like cb's at first it didnt work too well.  We had to restart the cb like 3 times because people were getting booted.  Although today it worked much better for some reason in out cb.  so I am not sure yet about this patch, but I can say it has improved the online access, so far that is.  we shall see. =)
                                 +MOD+ Saberian.CBL

You could have saved much time if you would have visited out Articles section:

How to patch Ghost Recon(online since 31th january) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/tet/fullnews.cgi?newsid1044021795,59817,)

Good night,

Mauti

Well, I'm happy with the updates, except for one thing.  My command window is stretched way out of proportion.  Anyone have any idea why??

well, i didn't have any problems patching it (no fresh GhR, OS X). And it runs like a charm - evern dedicated serving with gamerAnger is now possible :)

*DAMN Elandrion

Cheers Mauti,

I notice that post is from january, is it talking specifically about 1.0.2b or is it something that often happens with updaters?

I'll try it anyway.

C o k e

I only experienced this problems with Ghost Recon updaters so the tutorial is about GR patches in general.

Bye and good luck,

Mauti

Did what you suggested mauti, the app loaded and i updated it and GameRanger recognised I got the game, BUT still not able to join games. OMG almost enough to make u buy a PeeCee. Well mb

C o k e            (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/wallbash.gif)

I've had no problem patching GhR to 1.0.2b and I use OS9. All I had to do is rechoose the application in the prefs...The only thing that I don't really like is the fact that the time it takes me to load the application seems to be a lot longer in comparison to the 1.0 version...(And "a lot" means about a minute or so longer)

having the same problem as Coke.

I'm in OS9, and of course had to reinstall ghr in order to update.

I've now installed fresh 3 times. Ran both updates.

gameranger refuses to see ghr at all. Doesn't seem to matter where i put it. an't join games, of course. Guess i might as well trash gameranger too the next time, and find a new hobby. I've heard great things about crack.

Just select it in the GameRanger prefs. I think that is only a problem as long it is beta. Furthers I don't have any troubles to join other GR servers.

Mauti

..heh heh.

problem is, when i open my gameranger prefs and browse for my ghr application, it isn't there.

when i update to 1.0.2b, i get a new folder in my ghr folder, inventively named "Ghost Recon 1.0.2b1"

inside that folder is another folder called "Contents", and an alias named "Ghost Recon"

inside "Contents" are two files and two folders, one named "MacOS"

in the "MacOS" folder is the new Ghost Recon appl, a readme, a winsock lib file, and another folder named "Ghost Recon 1.0.2b1" which is a complete copy of the one we're already inside of.

gameranger does not recognize any of my ghost recon apps, or their aliases.

Hmmm here it recognizes the app package. Well don't forget it is a public beta to find bugs so inform Aspyr about your experiences.

Mauti

btw-

does anyone else appreciate the irony of making a beta update required?

i mean, it's called beta because it's being tested out, right?

they ain't quite sure all the bugs are worked out.

yet it's the only version his holiness has deemed acceptable for gaming?

Not surprising really when you consider that the main 'fix' for this beta is Gameranger support!

I have had the same patch problems with 1.01 and 1.02b (OS9 at work OSX at home). In both instances the problem was solved by removing mods and installing fresh copies.

At least i'm not crazy. someone else with exactly the same problems.

Rapid's method is fine if you want gameranger to see your updated ghostrecon appl. The problem with that fix is that when you move the 1.0.2b ghr app, it loses track of where the mpl mod is located, so it won't join gameranger games, and you can't even ip join.

My method is to say 'screw you' to gameranger. They took a buggy beta version of the game and made it a required upgrade, before figuring out if people could use it or not. Fine.

If you run the updated ghr appl from it's original location, inside the contents folder, you can ip join just fine. And you'll be running the updated version, so there are fewer crashes.

I sent emails to aspyr and gameranger, and haven't heard a peep. I had half a dozen people helping me on gameranger today, to no avail.

From now on i use gameranger to get ip addresses. period.

BTW- thanks to everyone here for helping as well. Why is it that you only get help from nice people with nothing at stake, and get diddly-squat from the service providers?

Hmmm...I feel like I'm the only person here in which the 1.0.2b update caused no problems. This kind of confuses me because I have a relativly shitty computer (400 Mhz iMac SE DV+) and I also use OS 9.2.2 (which I'm assuming most of you peeps who are having this problem have). So I guess I'm here to say that the crappy update isn't crappy to everyone (though I'm not exactly thrilled with the update either).

Don't get me wrong. Let me clarify the crap from the non-crap.

Non-Crap:

the update itself. sure, it's not perfect. but it's the beta version, right? it's not supposed to be perfect. it plays great, seems to be much more stable, does all that it promises. only problem is its compatibility with gameranger under some older operating systems.

Crap:

making a beta version of a game the ONLY one we can play on gameranger. I see the sense of encouraging it to test it sufficiently, since the update was produced with gameranger in mind, to say the least. My beef with it is that they did not have to make it mandatory to get sufficient test data. Most people on gameranger will update right away anyway, especially when it makes the gameranger games more stable. making it mandatory might have been a mistake, but I can see how it was made. My beef with the whole thing is continuing to require it when you know there are problems, and not responding in any way to flood of questions to both gameranger and aspyr.

Also non-crap:

this forum, and the people who take the time to try and help. very very non-crap.

i agree w/ psycho (i also run os 9.2/ 466mhz/g4) in that i dont have any problems w/ the new patch. the only thing i have somewhat of an issue is when i want to join a game in GR it will say i dont have the game so i have to scan for it thenlocate the new 1.02 patch version, not the original GHR version, cause both will be listed in my menu, then just double click it and then i can join games.
also the other thing i noticed it fixed was that my GHR application icon wasn't the typical logo i'm sure the rest of you see. it was a pad of paper and a hand w/ pencil. now at least i have the real icon to launch the application.

Yo All,

Still havent fixed mine either, but Meat wagon, u can fix that hand wit a pencil thing by rebuilding the desktop (hold option and alt keys at startup) this will sort all ur icons out u should do it evry now and again anyway.........

I dunno if evill reads this board, but mb if more of us email him, he'll un-make 1.02b a required update?

C o k e(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

I've hybridized the varoius solutions suggested here. I can now play via ip-join by using the new appl created in my ghr1.0.2b1>contents>macos folder. That appl works fine, is very stable, etc. But gameranger wont recognize this appl.

I also trashed my 1.0.1 ghr appl, and replaced it with a copy of the above 1.0.2b version. Gameranger will recognize the appl in that location, which is HD>Games>ghost recon desert siege.

So, on gameranger i can join rooms and ask the host for the ip address. Then i have to leave the room, run the appl from the macos folder, ip join, and play.

It's better than nothing until the patch is fixed or gameranger accepts 1.0.1 again.

It's hardly surprising it doesn't work when you do a hack job without having the slightest idea what you're doing.

If you're going to copy the app into the old install, copy the info.plist as well (to Contents/, not MacOS/).

Scott.

The reason for a mandatory patch is to accomplish a couple things...

1) To weed out the pirates who weren't smart enough to burn the installer on to a CD.

2) To increase the testing pool since it is a public beta - teh more people that play it, the higher the chances that an error will be found.

For those of you old enough (and by looking at the replies in this thread, a lot of you aren't), Rogue Spear underwent the same public testing of a patch that took way too damn long for them to release.

Scott,

Thx 4 the tip with the info.plist file, but where exactly do i put it?

Can anyone give me a step by step explanation from start 2 finish pls?

Forgive my nOOb-ness, but this shit is not my area.

C o k e :P

Meatwagon -
Sounds like you got the same system as me, least as far as the basics go (256 RAM & RAGE 128pd here) ...  wonder if you are having similar results here...

Since I ran the 1.0.2b patch, been having all sorts of slowdown problems (especially in IT). At least I think it's since the patch.  

Are you noticing that IT runs pretty chuggishly (with or without the patch?)  I've also suddenly noticed a lot of slowdown on other mods when high-rate-of fire weapons are being used (not even including fixed or tank guns).

I guess if I can decide whether the patch is involved or not would be really helpful. ;)

thanks-
CS

hey Captain, funny you say that, yeah we have the same system pretty muc, and mods run really slowfor me, so now i dont even use the. trashed them out of my mods folder. even when i play GHR or desert seige i run between 15 and 30 frame rates. need to get a better video card. but as for IT havent loaded it yet. so i cant answer you on that yet. sorry.

yeah, thinking of adding maybe an ATI 8500 AGP and some RAM here in the near future, would like to be able to handle IT a little better.

I zapped my PRAM last night, rebuilt the desktop while I was at it, seemed to have helped the overall frames for GR, but maybe that's just my wishful thinking, heh.

info.plist....

umm...it's already in the contents folder. Where do you want us to copy it to?

Nice to drop in and make demeaning remarks without fixing a damn thing.

Test data? You're kidding, right? From the very first hours of this patch I've been emailing gameranger and aspyr. If the fix is so easy as Evill suggests, why not share it with us? If there is no easy fix, then tell me that I'm being left in the cold.

And continuing to make the patch mandatory at this point is ridiculous. We know it doesn't work AT ALL for some people. Everyone who plays regularly has already run the patch. That's all the data you're going to get. You're looking for data from someone who's playing on gameranger for the first time this week, I guess? Those are the only new problems you're going to discover at this point. And guess what? Those people either won't understand the problem, or won't tell you about it anyway.

And I really don't care who thinks whom is smart/old/experienced enough to understand this problem. I have yet to hear anyone offer a real working solution.

Apologies for coming across as pissed off in this post. I just can't believe people think they know how to fix this and won't share it.

I feel so freakin dumb!

Finally got GhR 2 work, I was ...erm.... using OS 9.0.4 so Ive updated to 9.2.2, reinstalled everything and i can join GR  fine and its all cool.
So I suggest anyone with probs has a look 2 see what version of OS they have.

Saying that, a week with no GhR has done wonders for me and my girl lol ;D

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C o k e

thanks Coke. I'll try that. I am on 9.0.4 as well. Looks like a three step upgrade, so I'll have to find the time for that, plus the reinstall of ghr and all its addendums.

in the meantime, I have discovered that if I try to join via gameranger (using the relocated 1.0.2b app I moved from macos into the ghr folder) I end up at the main menu screen of ghr. If I click multiplayer, nothing happens. BUT, if I quit and immediately start the 1.0.2b app in the macos folder, it puts me into the game I was trying to join. Why? Who knows or cares....it works.

Finally got an informative response from aspyr---


> When I install the update, it creates a new folder called 'Ghost Recon 1.0.2b1' and the new ghr app is in that folder, in 'Contents > MacOs'. That new version of the game runs perfectly. I can ip join from the game. It's just that gameranger will not recognize the ghr app in that location. It only sees the app when I copy it to the 'Ghost Recon - Desert Siege' folder. Problem is, when I run that copy, it won't join the games, and it won't let me ip join either, as the multiplayer button on the main menu does not work. When I try to join using gameranger (which is pointing to the copy of the beta app), ghr starts up and then dumps me to the ghr main manu screen.
> On the Damn forum it has been revealed that this might be a problem only for people with mac os 9.0.4, which I am running. Other users with my same problem report that when the updated their os to 9.2.2 and then reinstalled ghr, the problem went away.


Okay, yes, you should update to Mac OS 9.1.  We recommend that as a minimum version to anyone running Mac OS 9.x.  This game application is actually a package, and 9.0.4 may not recognize it correctly.  I missed the fact you were using that OS.

Update to 9.1 or later, and you should be fine.  You shouldn?t have to go on to 9.2 if you don't want to (for whatever reason).

John
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