*DAMN R6 Forum

OK!

I don't know if all of you out there have notice this new style of "tactics"

The "i thought i was playing a game but instead i'll sit here on mah belly for 10 minutes" tactics.... aka CAMPING

It's bad enough that a team camps but to also give him the best camo in the game and have such a strong advantage over everyone?

Vote and pls leave a message as to why you voted this way.

I even would go as far as to say that the RED/YELLOW uniforms should be the official CB UNIFORMS


I would like it if the DAMN team would please take a look at this matter closely....

Thanks for your time!

I voted yes fools.

I am going to have to agree with 8 here.  He makes a valid point pretaining to an overlooked tactic.  SSI has been going through the same issue at hand, and we dont even CB that much.  For us to CB a bit more latley we have noticed this to be a problem with clans that like to "camp" their way to victory.  

Where is the fun when 2 teams CB for over 3 hours just to get lousy points and bitch at eatch other.  Im sorry but I have better things to do.

_cheers

-brw

I voted yes !!!!!


I hate Campers...it is not normal that the clans plays this tactic !!!!!!!


it is a good day to die....Fight


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fthagn..... The Devil is back  :o :o

Mauti rules..

Mauti does rule ;P

no need to get your nose brown though....

I am not posting a yes to be on the same side as Eight here, but because I know I'm a good player and I hate FUCKIN CAMPERS. They ruin any fun the game has, and if they want to camp they should have their own battle league... CAMPERS ONLY ADMITTED

As far as what my $.02, I say MAUTI should choose two colors, and that's it.... no arguing after that, thems the rules.  I just go by the rules. I don't give a hit how bad they suck, I just follow them...


[DEA] SignTist

Eight it is always easier to critisize something than to make a good suggestion to change a problem.

You say blue would be unfair if a clan camps so what colors should the host and guest clan have? What's fair in your opinion?

Bye,

Mauti

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DEA] eight: mind if i PM u m getting confused
Godfather - RnT: np
Godfather - RnT: ok, here it is
[DEA] eight: ok cool my thing is... yes we will never get rid of campers
Godfather - RnT: in RS, there were alot of campers aswell
[DEA] eight: but!
[DEA] eight: if u have blue uniform with sniper the camo will beat out all 3 other uniforms
[DEA] eight: now if u get rid of the blue sniper camo
Godfather - RnT: hrm
[DEA] eight: maybe people will camp less since they can be seen easier
Godfather - RnT: well
Godfather - RnT: here's my point then
[DEA] eight: k
Godfather - RnT: in RS, there were some bushy maps
Godfather - RnT: lot's smaller though, but still u had dragunov snipers, psg-1 snipers etc.. they all camo-ed in CB's whatever they wanted, @ first that is
Godfather - RnT: offcourse the bushy camo
Godfather - RnT: then Mauti stopped that by only letting a CB pass with gold/blue unis
Godfather - RnT: but a gold uni, is first of all not realistic, second of all, unfair coz of color compared 2 blue
Godfather - RnT: and last but not least
Godfather - RnT: it didn;t help ppl from camping/sniping
[DEA] eight: ok understood but this iss a diffrent game
Godfather - RnT: u do not realize unless u really research it like u did
Godfather - RnT: but u don't realize what uni u are wearing
[DEA] eight: u have 4 choices of colors... one of them has the advantage
Godfather - RnT: that doesn't matter
Godfather - RnT: k
Godfather - RnT: so ur saying just yellow/green/red
[DEA] eight: yes
[DEA] eight: even green team has a disadvantage
[DEA] eight: somewhat cuase their unis in the game are colored blue
Godfather - RnT: yes
Godfather - RnT: tje armor
Godfather - RnT: the
Godfather - RnT: well, mark my words, the camping will still be popular

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Ok, this I talked with Eight to try 2 make clear that uni colors don't really make any difference. I voted for yes though since it's an attempt to stop campers doing their thing. I was asked 2 post the above.
Greetz, Godfather - RnT

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O shit, I accidently voted no, I am so tired atm... don't mind that 1 vote against plz :]

Lemme make it clear Mauti...

Let's say your going into battle, and the other team picks blue. They all pick snipers and then sit next to bushes for the entire game... (camps)

Now the 3 other uniforms... if you noticed, ALL have short sleeve shirts...

So let's say your on the yellow team and your not playing a desert siege map. You now have nice WHITE people skin which is more visible then having a tree on your head.

It's a huge disadvantage for the other 3 teams.

Yes the sniper camo can be seen easier in maps where its more urban...but 70% of this game is in the dessert (which by the way.. the other 3 teams have black skin, and no good camo gear for the snipers) and forest.


I would recomend using the RED and YELLOW unis... I think these unis are pretty fair.

No special advantages for any clan is all i am saying mauti.

AND no i dont think this will stop the campers... i do think this will make people think twice about camping when they dont blend so well with the surroundings.... AND if they do camp makes it easier to search and destroy.


Just trying to save the game before it becomes what thos RS guys have been saying... about this game is just about camping.


LETS LEARN SOME TACTICS GUYS!

FUN FUN FUN!!!!

Eight, you need to get over it, you play fucking Ghost Recon.  The biggest maps of any game to date with long range guns.  You're out in huge fields and locations, Ghost Recon is set up for camping and is a camping game.  You want to have the right to complain about some camping and actually trying to use tactics and rush, come play some Rogue Spear, a real game.  There are no tactics for retard huge maps that you can't see shit on to begin with.

I voted no on this one because I am in favor of playing Ghost Recon in its pure form. Even if it is cheap, it is part of the game. A while ago we had a big stink about third person. I personally hated third person, but was in favor of keeping to it because it is part of the game. Besides what are you complaining about? You are in first place with current rules by a wide margin. I know in the AgT vs DEA cb we were dishonarable when we Vilnus camped. I guess my main point is, "WINNERS ADAPT!"

i still dont c the diff textures with blue team and others and if its make what ever the teamblue harder to shoot

Its true that Ghr is a camping game, but u cant say a sniper is a camper , its a sniper !
u realy think a sniper will come close to u and chalenge u with his big gun while u cook him with ur mighty sab80 ?
no..

If you ban anything it should be sensors! I have been hearing clans  just set up a campfire with sensors and take sniper rifles and wait 10min for u to come in and then shoot you!

Is that a test of a clans skill?

I believe not at all, its just plain stupid if you ask me!! :-[

Why is it that all the replies to Eight's idea have not made any sense.   Maybe because there alot of immtaure people in the League.  Firstly, this is not RS.  This is GHR.  Second, everyone seems very pissed because DEA seems like the clan that wins the most in the league.  To me it looks as though everyone has somthing shitty to say.  Since most of you bitch during CB that this is "JUST A GAME,"  then maybe you should act like it and and try to understand where he is coming from to make the game as fair as possible.  

Infection and Rapid...  Leave your gay ass RS jokes at home.  

_cheers

brw

Getting rid of sensors is retarted... That is the only way we ever find camping clans, we had to carry our sensors with us when we CBed [TRIBE]. I'm going with 8 on this one. If you want people to quit being lame and saying "it wasn't fair, give them equal unfroms, unless the clan is obviously shitty and has a disadvantage.(i.e if |AK| ever Cb'd Virus they should get the good camo cause Virus would smoke them anyway) It wont stop camping but it will level the playing field on which the campers and their opponets and placed. Rapid once again, please mind your own bisness.

First just want to say WE ARE NOT CAMPERS cause I dont like campers
I dont have to justify the way we play, but now we know one thing DEA uses sensors alot against US they said and thats an info!!

Second I want to make some conclusion here

- DEA wants to erase :
                                     blue team
                                     snipers
                                     And any oponent that want to play his way
- Lets use the uniform they want
- lets take the gun they want
- lets spawn where they want
- lets found a way to give them a life

But now if all guest can choose his color why dont u host 5 games then I host 5 games so all can pick blue if they want or else??

thats EZ

last : just want to say I like to play DEA or V or C they are ok to play with, But i like to play by the rules, and use rules also at maximum thats why rules existe and

Very last I'm very upset that DEA forced people since a long time to not use blue and no one b4 us took time to argu with them.

this should have been done a long time ago

SO thx horda

cya online

umm is it me or did anyone else not see this "gay joke"?
It is a way of playing just deal with it

 I agree 100% with Infection. If you don't like camping, don't play GHR.

It's a game  based around campers. The campers win, the assaulters die.  

I'd have to diagree with you guys on the camping issue.  Yeah there are a few camping clans out there, but look at the top 4 clan: DEA, Virus, c|, and AgT.  Not a single one of the them camps.  There are ways around campers, it just takes a little bit of tactics, and a lot of patience to find right path.

I like Flies' idea of having red and yellow teams only.  They both seem pretty equal in uniform and spawn location.

I love how all the old school RS players.... You know the ones who are keeping that outdated game alive..... Keep saying that GhR is a campers game....


Ok let me give u some insight....

Yes the MAPS are bigger then RS... This does not mean that it automaticly becomes a campers game.

It means that you now have to work with your team in order to clear out sections of the map until you have found and destroyed your enemy....


Please IF you don't like GhR and are a big RS fan... Don't vote becuase your still in love with a game that needs 20 shots in order to kill one person... on a map thats the size of my shoe box.....

As for you guys TRIBE...

We found you on map... And yes we did use sensors only to find out you stayed in the exact same spot each game for all 10 games we played. AND you call yourselves non campers?

Take whatever gun you want! I dont give a shit go crazy with a mp5 if you like! But as for wearing camo that looks like a bush then lay there on your stomach for 10 min each game and say you dont camp?

As for the spawn points i didn't even know the spawns... thnx to flies now i do.

Maybe people should not get rid of the Blue camo... maybe we should just form a private lil ban against all camping teams...... TRIBE being one of them...
I mean which one of you clans out there trully have fun playing for 4 fucking hours becuase some team doesnt know how to play the game?

I lost a couple of hours of my life playing against those guys and not even get the points for it.....

Bah to hell with them.... I say fuck TRIBE more trouble then what its worth....

Good luck even getting into the finals...

Synner... You should leave and possibly join a clan with some real tactics.


BUT the reson for this post was to agree with flies, and disagree with the fact that TRIBE aint campers.... and that they are more trouble then what they are worth.

well i need to agree that my clan loves camping
I dont get it how they could manage to just do nothing for so long
and about the uniforms or respawn places I dont give a shit where i spawn
i just run to the place i want to. I dont think you good clans would have
more problem with a bad clan camping because they spawned on a good place then a bad clan who didnt spawned on a good place
just call in reinforcement and smoke them out of their bushes
Why the hell do I need to attack in coop? Save hostages out of terrorists?
this game is based on  invading enemy camps. You can do it slowly stop everysecond to watch the area , just run into it , walk arround the back ,...
But not just by sitting on your ass. camping or tactical defending or like a friend of mine calls it "creative placement" just prooves your lack of teamplay
tactic ideas , and how much time you want to spend behind your computer.
If you want to practice your teamplay you need to cover eachother watch eachother back when your moving in.
not wait untill the enemy shows how u need to do it.
Plz dont judge [TRIBE] to fast we are just started finding the right tactics
seeing what other clans can , testing each weapons good and bad sides,
getting used to eachother play style.
I will try my best getting rid off the camping reputation

ummm that's the silliest thing ever.... no one in DEA likes campers, and I guarantee that mostly all clans hate campers, shut you fuckin pie-hole Typhy


[DEA] SignTist

didnt DEA vs Virus (last cb) camped ?

DEA tactics: i run i set a sensor i fall back and camp and try to catch a Virus guys

they did same on us

anyway if u dont like camping ,Quake 3 should fit better with u  ;D

HAHA

If we would of tried that with you guys we would still be playing the cb!

Being that you guys NEVER MOVED FROM SPAWN POINT.

I VOTE YES!

i agree..all cbs should be stick with two color(home and verus)....since yellow and red are most common...i say we only use those color for cbs "only"..

 It's been said to much to quote. . .

In Rogue Spear, whenever I get killed by someone who isn't moving, I think "Fucking camper". Anytime I get killed by someone who is peaking around a corner for more than about 3 seconds, I say "fucking camper".

In Ghost Recon, it's near impossible to hit running shots, the only kind that you can hit are side stepping. More often than not, I see players, as soon as they see someone, crouch down to get their shots off. In my book, that's a form of camping. That's why I consider Ghost Recon a campers game.

I watch a guy like |MP| Lothario; in my book, that's camping. He rarely moves after he gets to his spot. But, that's what Ghost Recon is about: snipers.

It's a simple fact, that in GHR, the people who don't move, and just get into one covered spot, and wait, are those who will do best.

This is not to say that there aren't good players who play aggressivly. I watch a guy like |MP| Jeb, he plays aggressive, and while he's not a great player, he's a very good player.

The point is that Ghost Recon sets itself up for campers. The campers are the ones who have the advantage. If you want a good game without campers, come play Rogue Spear, SOF2, or another of the exellent games out there, where camping isn't nearly as effective.  

TRIBE_Horda...why is it everytime i read a post from you, your trash talking DEA.  I talk to you guys on game ranger and your all smiles, yet here you make me think bad things about you wich in turn makes me post nasty things such as your reading now.
Every clan in the ladder has been bashed for camping at one point or another, this is "a part of the game", it will never stop.  Every team has their oun tactics and no other clan should be able to trash talk them down about it.  Just drop it.  This post is not to say that we camp, those of you who have cbed us know how he fight.  I'm the noob of DEA, but from reading the history on the clan, these guys were the aggressors and i know that from cbing them from AgT.  Now we have sensor's...well now its a sensor war in cb's and any of you who say you dont use them is full of it.  
What i'm tring to say here is that you all bitch and bitch, but thats all it is.  Keep your trash talk to your self and keep this game fun, thats all we're trying to do here, HAVE FUN!  Dont you think cb's are more fun then reg. play?  


btw i vote yes....

Wana Talk about out dated talk about r6 which i still play but Still, Rs is alive and Kicking.

Casper
 Oh Btw and Ghr is Dieing on Pc's :)Im loving every moment of it because they are playing RvS. But im an i guess an old Rs player now and o well

I'm voting "Yes". This will end all the bullshit and petty arguments between sore victims and their rapers. Blue snipers on any outdoor map have an unfair advantage. I think *DAMN should make some uniforms , and make them required for CBs. Horda you need to give it up we would have/ will beat you no matter what you wear, that's why we didn't pick the blue camo. I belive that people can still snipe but they will be a little easier to see for the poor sniper who has the shit camo and the assualter who is running up on the campsite to put out the camp fire and coke the campers with thier smores. The bottom line is that BLUE OFFERS AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN ANY OUT DOOR MAP. Red and Yellow are nearly identical so why not level the playing field ?  

becuase of Host atvantage it becomes fair and you could do the exact sa,e thing so its not a big deal