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Title: The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: MainMaN on February 04, 2003, 04:47:08 am
Rogue Spear at one time was stable.. But im finally gona bring this up.

Im no programer nor a hacker, just a hard core gamist.
Alot of people in RS also agree about its insecurity.

cheating

glitching

Playing "unfair"

All these sound, ok ok sure whatever.
Right now the game rs has a promblem.

ok ok, aimbots? armor mods? true or false?

Ok 1st off, every1 prob. knows this.. YES they have "mods" for the pc version of RS.. and every other game

For your information a devish mod called "PUMA" used 2 be used int he pc world... show the enemies and the full stuff, that every idiotic cheater would like 2 get ur hands on.

One year ago, a guy on "Gameranger" desided to invent a crack for mac. just a basic crack.. wanted 2 c if it can be done.

Ok ill get to the point, some dude, gave me the hack and i left it on my PC at home... Its a server-editing mod.

Ok, 1st of all u need proof.. But then agian why im i even bringing this up?

well.. the main focus on this is a RS ANTI-CHEAT mac only mod...

This isnt the only hack RS was expose 2. The famous Armor mod. It takes 1/2 clip 2 kill. <-- i dont have this one on my pc nor i have proof it exist.

THE HACK WILL NOT WORK WITH GAMERANGER

i wana make this statement clear, "I am not here to put stories in ur head, but im telling u the truth. IVE NEVER USED IT ON A RS GAME SESSION. I will amit i used it for practice on ip'ed games on gamespy for testing purposes in make of the anti-hack.

before this statement, *NADS Lt. Justin sane and me. made an ip join 2 test the hack for proof purposes. This is my proof the hack does exist. ive also supplied a photo of the mac hack. RS needs 2 be fixed. and im doing this in the make of a Rs-anticheat beta. I will email mauti and have this put in the DAMN downloads once it is finished.

note:we have never used this on any gameranger games
     proof:If i did, you will notice a 1 bar ping, will occur and will NOT CHANGE intill the start of the game.. then it will go normal

note:No m4 member or nads member is resposable for this... I did not make the crack, im just the carrier of it.

note:ive never used it, nor i cant, gameranger wont allow it.. Nor i got the reasources and the reason to change it.. cause simply... cheating is for nerds that dont have girlfriends.
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I understand how the hack works and how the anti-hack will work..

You may ask questions about it, please put the questions in a "question form"


Please post your reply. Ive decided if u believe the hack isa false, or a myth still. I will show 1 other person it. Thats all, its hard enough trying 2 censor everything i say so some 1 else doesnt make it. the anti-hack will be coming soon. Please do not email me or PM in gamranger.. and all questions here.

Picture of the hack on the pc : http://m4.macclans.com/hack.html
info on the hack: the hack is unreconizable, u will never know they have it.


RS will become stable agian.. If you have any ideas on how we can make this happen email me g_b_mainman@softhome.net

The reason im telling you this, cause im gona need some help on making RS an anti- cheating zone.

how the hack works:

PC----------mac
 -
  -
   -RS game


Your mac connects to the pc, then the pc connects ur hacked mac to the host.. thats how mac cheating it happening.

Ive been asked.. will i get permabanned? for what? for dissussing the ways to make RS secure and safe.. no i will not. i dont play RS anymore anyways

Hopefully youll understand 2... aimbots arnt a joke anymore... face the facts.. if u truly believe their is no aimbot.. i will show you.

-mainman
http://m4.macclans.com

MAC
(Mac Anti- Cheating)


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: ACE Justin Sane on February 04, 2003, 05:36:43 am
Yes I did test the aimbot with mainman and yes it did work, I dont know how it works and I dont have a copy of it myself. but when we were testing it I banned all weapons in the game and he comes up owning me with a UMP45 also he could tell me where I was wherever I went on the map(CSL) headshots every time.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Mr.Mellow on February 04, 2003, 03:27:41 pm
Actually, there already is an anti-cheat mod for RS. AgT used to use it a lot, but most of the other clans we CBed didn't want to bother DLing it, so we stopped using it. Maybe make it standard? Also, sometimes when you turn all weapons off, RS glitches and some people still get weapons. This doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating. I just wanted people to know that so they don't jump all over someone if they still have a gun when the guns are off. I'm glad someone finally found proof of this, though. Nice work. =D


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Absalon - RnT on February 04, 2003, 04:10:35 pm
Yes actually there exists allready a anti-cheat mod (since a long time) but i dont know if it worx  ;D



Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: mainman at school on February 04, 2003, 04:57:09 pm
There is no anti-cheat mod for the mod ive gotten, ive tried all.. cause it works with the game not agisnt it. It discises its selve as the part of the game and if u got rid of it.. the game would go also


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Mr.Mellow on February 04, 2003, 09:15:54 pm
The anti-cheat mod works in that if it finds any of the RS files are working differently then they should, no one can join the game, or they'll crash if they change something in-game. It should work for this cheat you've been talking about.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on February 04, 2003, 09:16:00 pm
I sincerely doubt all of what you just said Mainman.

1) You call it a basic hack.... untrue even on a PC it isn't a "basic" hack
2) You have the knowledge? I remember not too long ago you couldn't even use Dreamweaverk, I doubt you have the programming knowledge to do this.
3) This guy just "gave it" to you? Why you?
4) So this guy just walked away from his hack? For someone who was desperate enough to use a hack and for them to walk away from it and not use it is SOOOOO unbelievable.
5) If only you have it why would everyone else need an anticheat? Unless you distributed it or have proof that it is widely used.

I personally would not download it because basically I think that's bs. You can get shot in the face all you want and "cry aimbot" like most people do... or you can just realize that most people have good aim. THE GAME IS A COUPLE YEARS OLD, that is enough time for people to have good aim! So basically I will not download ANYTHING to stop this "hack" because  I don't know what I'm dling, and basically I doubt you have the programming knowledge.

Haz


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: MainMaN on February 04, 2003, 10:03:05 pm
#1. i dont have knowlage about some programs ie. dreamweaver u dumbass. Does not mean i know nothing about programming
#2 Yes its a basic hack cause its basically how all the other hacks use. but they use diff medians
3. yes he gave it 2 me.. why? cause we were best friends and i asked for it. 2 c if it was a joke or if it was real
4. yes he did, making a hack didnt take a hour.. mor elike 5 mins.. and he doesnt use gameranger
5. im not the only 1 who has it. ive spotted other gr users having it.

Fine, u can believe whatever u want.. but compaining and whining that u dont care isnt gond help.. and btw i dont care how good u arnt at rs =D


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Casper on February 04, 2003, 10:12:05 pm
#1. i dont have knowlage about some programs ie. dreamweaver u dumbass. Does not mean i know nothing about programming

MM Wtf are you talking about you can make a anti-hack on Dw. Dw is for Webpages!

Btw the anti-Cheat mod everyone is talking about all it does is take away servers side modigfactions like if i where to give the pdw 1000 shots it would take away the pdw.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on February 04, 2003, 10:15:42 pm
DW was an example that you know nothing about code.

And that crack about not being good at rs.... ha, I beat you 6-0! Plus I wasn't bragging I was saying that people are good, they get good aim.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: kami on February 05, 2003, 12:20:36 am
He was joking, no you're not bragging at all hazard, you just beat him with 6-0, we all know that now.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Snake on February 05, 2003, 03:21:34 am
I see this stuff is finnaly coming out, Yes there is a Aimbot for mac. it's really simple to get it to work, and to get puma to work on mac as well. but i will not tell anyone how to do it. mauti stummbled across it, and he showed it to me. i was amazed at how EZ it is to get it to work. there is other hacks as well like peeking through a wall at any point in the game (any wall too) and seeing the whole level... and shooting guys from anywhere. like no clipping on 007, but just peeking into the wall like the bunkers glitch. if those two cheats i mentioned above got out RS is done for. if you don't bleave me, oh well. but just remember what i said.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on February 05, 2003, 11:08:30 pm
Bah, I guess I'm just in denial =). Hey snake... don't you owe me a favor for those hotdogs? =P


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: MainMaN on February 06, 2003, 04:49:20 am
Omg, haz u brag 2 much 6-4 and btw i could care less about it, i was on a shitty powerbook g3 so i dont care


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Mr.Mellow on February 06, 2003, 04:00:11 pm
Okay, now I think we have a problem. If Mauti says there's one, I believe him. However, I'm not going to go as far as downloading something M.M. made, especially since he can't even type a sentence I can understand.  ;)


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: mm at school on February 06, 2003, 05:10:46 pm
oh su, yes i know programming and im making a hack its ur dumbass decision if u want it or not


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Casper on February 06, 2003, 11:03:42 pm
mm r u Stupid? Dw will not help you in any way...


I know more then enough of the language rs uses(not sure if it is perl) to make a rs mod but im not sure what the file looks like on pc


Title: MainMan BETTER NOT BE MAKING HACKS FOR RS!!!
Post by: AK_Rap1d on February 07, 2003, 04:38:56 am
oh su, yes i know programming and im making a hack its ur dumbass decision if u want it or not

Ok, this needs to be stopped right now.  It's obvious that if Mauti does know and maybe even have a hack like so for RS, he surely made sure not to expose it to our community.  Now why in the hell do we need some numbnut that can't even spell his name come try to make one and have others DL it?  Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this can only damage our community, and it's why others like Mauti have kept from bringing it out to the public.  Now don't let MainMan(n00b) come out even trying to bring these hacks alive, or it will just start to ruin games everywhere...  

MainMan, your attempts at making a "Hack" ARE NOT NEEDED NOR WELCOMED.  

SO DON'T DO IT! >:(

I seriously say we consider banning him if this is his ways at making "RS more fun"...  

This nonsense needs to be stopped now before it gets worse...


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Wrabbit on February 07, 2003, 04:42:14 am
Hah, i say we ban rapid and make RS more fun... i feel more people would agree to that than to mainmans


Title: Another one bites the dust...
Post by: AK_Rap1d on February 07, 2003, 04:48:20 am
Hah, i say we ban rapid and make RS more fun... i feel more people would agree to that than to mainmans

Nice Try Dumbass Mainman...

It's only obvious it's you from "school"...


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Golo on February 07, 2003, 04:48:47 am
Why is it that i have to scroll down 46 screens to read Rapids posts....just a question....but do you have to make your font so freakin big twinkle toes...?


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Wrabbit on February 07, 2003, 07:03:53 am
Rapid, dont be so stupid. I am not mainman. But you sure are a loser.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: kami on February 07, 2003, 04:57:55 pm
I'm taking Wrabbits side on this one!

Haha, I love your avatar golo!


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: mainman @ school on February 07, 2003, 06:11:04 pm
wtf, that wasnt me.... btw.. do not challenge my programming capabilities cause none of u truly no.. u guys just go on my shit penmanship.. btw

Now don't let MainMan(n00b)?? typhy dont start, u allrdy have 1 of the worst reps in the RS world. ive been on gr for 4.5 yrs created over 6 sites and have hosted over 10 diff clans.. Typhy use ur head and dont make ur self look stupid. Im even questioning is Ak should be put on the links part of the m4 page... no respect and yes im working on a anti-cheat ur dumbass decision if u want it or not.. Now letz focus the topic on cheating not how rude u guys truly are


Title: MainMan doesn't get it...
Post by: AK_Rap1d on February 07, 2003, 11:31:28 pm
*sigh*

Don't you get it MainMan?  We don't have a "problem" with these "hacks".

Now of course, we can begin to have them if n00bs like you decide to take your extra time you have (no life perhaps?) and start "programming" these hacks, in order to be able to make a "anti-hack".  

Don't you get it?  You "programming" these hacks and making them available to others is what can start the problems...

Of course since others knew of your making of these hacks, made you think you can come out and tell us your trying to make an "anti-hack" with your 1337 "programming" skills...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_bluh.gif)

Don't know bout you all, but do you smell cover-up ???

Don't start introducing these "hacks" to others MainMan.   That's my Point. >:(  

In fact, don't try making these "anti-hacks".  If you feel the need for it to be made, ask a modder  in the right section, or even Mauti, and they will appropriately make one the right way.  Not all rookie and ghetto with ductape like you... [figure of speech]


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on February 08, 2003, 01:35:22 am
OMG what must I read. Snake I never said that here is an aimbot for Mac. The pic I showed you awhile ago was running a hack on VirtualPC(Puma).

There is none aimbot for Mac - there are enough other hacks but no aimbot like Vertigo or Puma. These would require to decompile the Mac rs app and work at the C++ code and I honestly don't think that anyone at this forum has enough experience for this.

Of course someone could join via PC and a hacked RS version.

So enough said,

Mauti


Title: Re:MainMan doesn't get it...
Post by: Wrabbit on February 08, 2003, 02:50:26 am
*sigh*

Now of course, we can begin to have them if n00bs like you decide to take your extra time you have (no life perhaps?) ...


Rapid, don't start talking about having NO life. You of all people should realize someone with NO life, considering you are a 27 year old (?) still in your mothers basement playing computer games. Why don't you try getting a life. Go outside, you are translucent. Find a girl, other than porn sites and cyber sex. Go to a bar for christ sakes at the very least.

The hack thing isnt that bad of an idea if you look at it from Mainmans room. If you make a hack, keep it secret to you and then find the anti hack for it. The only thing that i agree with Rapid (sadly) is not to distribute it to everyone. But you do what you want, we can't really stop you from doing that.

Rapid if you are trying to make that "point", why don't you just plain old say, "I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD EXPOSE THESE HACKS TO OTHERS MAINMAN, IT ISNT A GOOD IDEA" iinstead of going off on some random area where no one wants to hear you, because all you are doing is just repeating some hooplaf and insulting (yea i know i insulted you. That's because that is the language you speak.) And when you insult, you start another "flamewar" where as you can tell from the past, you get utterly "pwned" by everyone that joins in.

So back to topic. Mainman, if you want to work on it, keep it private. If you actually find this  "anti-hack" show us. Just dont show us that actually hack parts.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Wrabbit on February 08, 2003, 03:28:55 am
room = view. Sorry for the mistake.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Casper on February 08, 2003, 03:29:14 am
Wrabbit who the Fuck are you?

I think your mm or a friend of his you came just when he need a response.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Wrabbit on February 08, 2003, 06:32:02 am
Casper, you are as wrong as Rapid was when he thought that.

And it's nice to see you care so much about who I am. Just keep on guessing.  ;)

Just because someone responded to Mainman's thing, doesn't mean that it must be a friend of Mainman.

That's like saying, when someone backs up Rapid's assertions, it must be Rapid's "homie" getting a say in for Rapid, when noone online would.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on February 08, 2003, 06:33:55 am
Ownage I'm not just in denial.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Casper on February 08, 2003, 07:09:49 am
Yeah True wrab sorry havent been on gr in a long time sonot sure whos new.
but people backing up rapid hehe like that will happen j/k :)
Btw why is this topic a ;D?


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: mainman AT school on February 10, 2003, 10:09:57 pm
Mauti, the hack also works for mac-mac basis. If u need proof just PM me in gameranger. Uve been aded 2 by bud list.

Im sure as hell NOT gona let this hack get out.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: Mr.Mellow on February 10, 2003, 10:49:54 pm
Ugh. I'm gonna take Rapid's side on this. Don't bother developing a hack, or an anti-hack, or whatever it is you're doing. Just stop. It'll only make things worse. Mauti is the grandmaster of all things related to Mac RS, so take his word on it. I'm not going to believe a screenshot and bad grammar.


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: mainman @ school on February 12, 2003, 04:57:59 pm
well, sry i dont have the best grammer on the world nor i spend alot of time on the comp as u do. By the way.. i dont care if mauti decides something or not.. i will make it and like i said its ur dumbass decidion if u wana use it


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on February 12, 2003, 08:54:58 pm
Mainman,

I think we are talking about two different cheats: to modfiy ammo, colors, making all textures transparent is one thing but I am talking about the PUMA and Vertigo cheats that allow you to have hbs always on, autoaim and other things as client.

Bye,

Mauti


Title: Re:The truth behind Rouge Spear...
Post by: bronto on February 12, 2003, 09:38:24 pm
Mainman is in his own world, where rogue spear hackers and aimbotters lurk around every corner. Infact, it is so common in mac rogue spear, that he has decided to not cb nads and change the subject everytime i ask him, but still claims he pwns.