*DAMN R6 Forum

   I bet this topic's been on the forums be4, But I feel like asking it. What is camping, I mean is it sniping from a window, or just looking at one door with C4? Alot of ppl think camping is for losers and other don't mind it or doing it. I always wanted to know the answaer to this old as time question. I feel it's to late sinse I all ready left GR and RS, But I still wanna know. So plz tell me what you think camping is.

   Later  8)

     Wallie~

     Camping is an amorphous area. Pointing at something and being able to call it camping or not camping depends heavily on the context. However, there is at least one situation that is always camping in my book, and that's when somebody goes to a low-traffic area of the map and hides and watches the entrance or path that people will be coming from. If you're ambushing in a commonly-traveled area, that's something totally different. But if you're sitting on your ass for the entire game covering an area that nobody uses, that's camping.

camping is any time you aren't moving. campers must die. GIB GIB GIB!!!

Camping is when you go out into the forest and set up a tent to sleep in.

Sniping is staying in one spot and being able to be seen pretty easily. Camping is staying in one spot crouching with a C4, about to ambush someone that comes by.

   Maybe u suck at sniping Matt, but I know when Im sniping I don't want to be spot easily, and most of the time im not.

Camping is when you stay in one low traffic area. Never moving.

camping is an excuse for losing. if u didnt see that c its ur fault. ive been c4ed b4 and all i say is whatever

I would have to agree with iBeer, Kudos.
Camping is an art for some, yes if you sit in a low traffic area and just wait...yes it could be defined as cheap. In other cases, my pal from FrEaK, Tiger and I will set up and ambush.  We have jammers and HBs down and we pick a good area with lots of traffic.  The other players never know when its coming or from where, ask TF6 Pat.  We camped them to hell on some maps.  It was pure ambushing genius!  So I think, lol

I would like to thank my camp master Py, for showing me the ways of the camp, when he was just a little Cunt ;)

I like Beers idea better. It really is just an excuse for losing. This is what campers strive after, the lack of pateince and caution of their enemy.

Well, like Kami said, camping is setting up a camp, with tents and all. Or in RS, it is a skill, like sniping or headshotting, or what lazy people do.

My Defintion of camping is when someone just goes it to a one entrence way room andaims at the door or has c4 at the door, and just sits inside and waits for someone to open the door.

Hey Hey!

Guys who camp are scared or skilled. Sometimes i "camp" too, but u have to make a difference between skilled camping or camping just coz of the fear of loosing. If I see someone on my hbs, walking right there where i am, why shouldnt i wait for him and rape him? why should walk right into him and mb i get shot too (in a cb that makes no sence). I personally love killing campers (psyks and RC know it, haaaa)

nice day

     Yeah, but there's a big difference between hiding for a moment in order to ambush and hiding for the whole game. The first is skill. The second is just camping.

Haha I love you too jackal....

There are two types of camping....

Type 1: Noob camping - A noob who finds an untraveled area and moves from one spot to another trying to get the best vantage point. C4 is generally placed in the wrong spot and the gun he carries has no zoom. You can often find the noob easily.

Type 2: Expert camping (sniping) - Someone who finds an area that will most likely have traffic and plant himself in a spot where he is safe and the enemy isn't. If c4 is placed it's placed in a hidden spot but will be devastating to any passerby when detonated. His gun has a decent sight so he can spot anyone across the map that would be heading in his general direction. An expert camper remains unseen and knows that if he's been compromised...gets the hell out and begins the hunt.

Haha absalon, I remember the other day when NADS and RnT cb'ed, I killed you on CSL when you were camping behind a box in front of your starting point, that was funny ;D

Ok little kami... Man, u dont know any tactics or what? i was there because i naded, and wanted some cover from poll... (think before write) >:(

     You wanted cover from poll? Don't you like suffrage?

Camping is anyone who sits in one spot for anymore than a few seconds without trying to advanced. (Someone pinned down taking enemy fire obviously is a different situation.) In R6, you should never stand still. You are camping and you will most likely die. Even on sniper maps like Airport or Road, the good players were always advancing as much as possible. I don't know about RS because it sucks. In GhR, camping is much more prevalent, and it is much tougher to kill campers than R6. There is no such thing as "expert camping" like Py says. Camping is camping is camping is massive noobery. Even on big sniper maps that lend themselves to camping, you should advance, stop and nail any enemy sighted, and advance more. The only semi-acceptable form of camping I can think of is on a siege map when you are trying to take someone's base and have to spawn kill/camp as you are very close.

I hate spawn camping, it's so fucking faggot-y. I always try to retreat to a position further away if I get too close. Perhaps not on a siege but on a normal LMS. This is also why I much prefer no respawns. GhR should really implement rounds, instead of respawning on death.

Oh and Absalon, I in no way tried to offend you by saying you were camping, it was just a funny thing.

     GhR doesn't do rounds for the most part because the maps are too big. We've all had the experience of making our careful way across a map, spending six, seven, eight minutes creeping along to the enemy base, only to get sniped without warning. It sucks, and it would suck far more if that was your only life. ::shrug:: In small maps, rounds are ok, but small maps are rare in GhR.

Yeah I guess you're right Loth but still, for a map like the one with the ghetto town and all that, it always ends up in one team spawn camping the team that starts in the valley.

     Last night, I had an interesting experience. I played GhR the way it was intended to be played. It was on Ace's server (the best one in the Mac world), with about 24 people playing, enough to make most of the maps big enough rather than too big. My team was composed entirely of skillful people who were willing and able to operate as a team. In about four games, we successfully held and attacked some of the toughest bases in the game, at least twice with hardly a casualty. I bring this up to make the point that the ability to camp/spawncamp is a function of the skill of the team you are camping against. My team was damn good, and nobody was able to get close enough to camp. If they made it close enough, communication enabled assaulters to take the camper out before they could do much damage. Better teams = better games with less camping.