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Title: GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: |MP|Nomad on December 18, 2002, 01:26:13 pm
and why?


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: BTs_Colin on December 18, 2002, 02:11:35 pm
Gamecube all the way.

Wavebird + amazing games = GGz


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 18, 2002, 05:33:55 pm
You can't really say that any of those are better than the others, it depends completely on what games you like.. I voted for the GC since the only console I ever bought was a Nintendo SNES ;)


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: KoS PY.nq.ict on December 18, 2002, 06:17:59 pm
Gamecube.

The games are truely amazing. Especially Metroid Prime.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: KoS Ultimo on December 18, 2002, 08:48:02 pm
Xbox, for the simple fact that Xbox live kicks the crap out of other lutiplayer system hook ups and the games for online play are fun as hell. (Unreal Championship, Mech Assualt, and GhR)


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: *NADS Capt. Anarchy on December 18, 2002, 09:04:52 pm
gah! all this xbox and GC crap. Playstation minions, arise! Simply put, PS2 pwns xbox and GC combined, if for no other reason than the controller. I can't stand the xbox's because it's analog sticks are in oposite spots, and teh buttons just have a bad feel to them. The GC's controller is just too.. weird. The PS2's is weighted nicely, the analog sticks put out just enough resistance, and the buttons are in a logical pattern. It's a perfext evolution of the SNES controller that we all knew and loved.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kos.viper on December 18, 2002, 09:24:12 pm
Ult, we're talking about the system, not the games that are on the system.  GC's graphics rule over all of the other game systems...


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: BTs_Colin on December 18, 2002, 10:36:08 pm
if you want pure gaming goodness the GC is amazing. Capt. Anarchy you need to try a wavebird. this is gaming heaven.

plus somehow the games are just that much better. I do'nt care what you say. I've been playing Super Smash Bros Melee for a year and only got the last character a couple months ago and just a couple weeks ago I learned that Marth's combo is actually like 12 different moves. its amazing.

I figure why have a half PC/ half console? have console and a computer (read: Mac). between these two systems theres already more games then anyone should have time to play.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: KoS Ultimo on December 18, 2002, 10:39:03 pm
Viper, go play splinter cell and then tell me that xbox doesn't have the best graphics


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: BTs_Colin on December 18, 2002, 10:52:56 pm
I also don't like that Microsoft can just buy their way into the market. Pisses me off.

Imagine a Dell or Intel console, I do'nt see any difference. None of those companies deserve to be in the business if you ask me. But no one ever does :(


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Agent Wallabie on December 18, 2002, 11:09:32 pm
  I base everything on the games. I dont really know whats better, I own a XBox, GameCube and a PS2, and i love them all. But i did vote for the PS2, all based on the games.

   Wallie~


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Jeb on December 19, 2002, 12:19:33 am
i Have a ps2 and a gamecube,
the gamecube is a great gaming system (for the under 12 crowd like my little brother), although there are a few games i liked.
The PS2 is great, so many games that i love.

The Xbox is the bigest waste of money in a while. I wouldn't be suprised if MS cuts their losses and dumps the Xbox. Sales figures are like 30 million PS2s, 3-4Million gamecubes, and 2million Xboxes. I test games at MS every so often and they have closed one of the 2 buildings that they work on the xbox in. As far as good games on the Xbox i can think of... uh mb halo. Again i know that the Xbox owners are defensive about their system because of how much money they have wasted. Sure the graphics look pretty but that is no tradeoff when you want to play fun games.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 19, 2002, 02:11:04 am
That game for XBox, what's it's name.. umm.. splinter cell? Well that game looks pretty good as well and there are some other good games for Xbox so it's not a complete waste imo.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Agent Wallabie on December 19, 2002, 02:41:22 am
  'Splinter Sell' is a great game if you liked 'Metel gear Solid'. But if ur a true Football fan XBox has so many good Football games, to bad i hate Football   :D

   Wallie~


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Kirok on December 19, 2002, 04:26:42 am
OK!!! Let's teach you wannabees some truth.
The Xbox is the best video game console you can buy.
Now, before you guys go wacky the NGC does have great graphics but the graphics are not all that count. The original post my brother asked was which system is the best and the answer is XBOX.
I do not like Microsfoft at all but this time they finally made something that I can stand behind.
Check this out:
I have Xbox. I have PS2. I had PS1 (two of them). I had Panasonic 3DO. I had Sega Saturn Online (before any other systems were online). I had Sega Dreamcast. I have GBA. I play on my Macs - I have all the latest games (except sports - hate sports games).
Check this out:
I have a 34" HDTV widescreen that I play my games on. I have a SONY Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound system, speakers and all, hooked up to my consoles.

What does this have to do with the best console system out there?

Here goes:
-The Xbox comes with a built in hard drive - PS2(coming soon) & NGC have no drive.
-The Xbox comes with an ethernet (high speed) connection - PS2 & NGC must buy seperately.
-The Xbox has the ability to download audio CD's to the hard drive and in some games you can play the CD tracks just copied as background music while playing -PS2 & NGC does not allow this.
-The Xbox plays games & movies in Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound - PS2 claims to do this also but does not - NGC, truthfully, I don't know but if it can't play movies who cares.
-The Xbox Plays DVD movies (you have to buy the kit) - PS2 also plays DVD's right out of the box (but quality is lower, keeps freezing and skipping) - NGC cannot play any movies.
-The Xbox has HD (High Defenition) cabels available for HDTV- PS2 & NGC have these cables available BUT the PS2 cable limits you to 6ft while the NGC cables must be ordered from the Nintendo web site, they are not available in stores. Oh yeah the Xbox HD cables come with a 6ft wire that can be replaced with any length cable you want (well thought out).
-The Xbox has online gaming - PS2 & NGC also have online gaming but the Xbox online gaming is far superior. I had to go through a set up proceedure to hook up my PS2 online, it was not hard but I had to do it. On my Xbox, however, the unit connected it'self without any of my help. I was online instantly. Again, truthfully, for the NGC I don't know but once again who cares.
 
The only things going for the PS2 is the amount of video game titles available for it and the there is no controller out there that beats the PS2 Dual Shock. The only thing going for NGC is the size of the unit, small and compact.

All the points I have listed above are more than reason enough to prove the Xbox is CURRENTLY ('cause it can change) the best gaming console available today.
You get more power for your money overall and not in just the graphics.

P.S.
I bought all these systems the day they came out available to the public and I can honestly say I have never wasted a penny - if YOU think I have, then your just a broke ass cheapskate and that would explain why you support the cheapest of the console systems. Ha!

Kirok


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 19, 2002, 04:44:13 am
Well, the reason for that the XBox can do all that is that it's basically a computer in a console shell. I'm not saying that that's bad or anything but like others have been saying as well, I just don't like the way microsoft can just barge into a business like that.  >:(


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: *NADS Capt. Anarchy on December 19, 2002, 06:00:24 am
Ok, I'm gonna quote a letter a saw in a gaming magazine a couple years ago. it said something along the lines of:

"We all know that if we had the money we would buy one of each system, so we could play whatever we wanted."

it's true, isn't it?


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 19, 2002, 06:03:29 am
Well yes and no, sure if you could afford it you'd buy them all. But if you had that much money, would you really sit inside and play games? I think not. ;)


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Jeb on December 19, 2002, 09:07:19 am
considering that MS is struggling for market share, and they are losing money on  the Xbox doesn't make it the best to own. Also you can find alot more used videogames out for PS2, just tonight i finaly bought GT3 for a wopping 9$.
One simple reason that the PS2 is better than the Xbox is: GTA:VC
Nothing i've seen on the Xbox is unique, splinter cell or whatever is on ps2 also. Oh and the Ps2 controller is perfect


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Night Hawk on December 19, 2002, 02:29:07 pm
Sigh, i love Grand Tourismo A-spec i forgot how to spell it but its my favorite.  Im gonna have to say ps2.  Most my friends have it and love it.  I just don't hear much of game cube or xbox without hearing a lot about playstation.  well w/e but i don't look into game systems much, i just play for fun.  I don't think OH NO! i ahev to do a lot of research about game systems to make sure i get the best one.  I usually just get the on with games that may not come out in the others.  I think all 3 of them have alright graphics and that is allt hat counts to me.   ;D

+-=Night Hawk=-+


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 19, 2002, 02:41:34 pm
Well I shouldn't really talk about consoles since I don't have anything but a SNES, and I'm not planning on buying a new one in the close future, it's just hard to avoid console news with a guy like kuran in your clan.  ;)


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Geek USA on December 19, 2002, 05:49:19 pm
xbox live owns, plain and simple. i mean, hell, its a known fact that nintendo its depending on metroid prime as its main source of income this holiday season. and as far as the ps2 goes.. can anyone say "grand theft auto?" on the other hand, microsoft is depending on xbox live, as well as other games (such as splinter cell). there is already a handful of xbox live games available, which means there are plenty of new quality titles to choose from. like, one of my friends baught metroid prime and beat it already. i have to admit the game is awesome, but when its over, its over. you cant get online and be faced with the challenge of real intelligence. and in the hardware department, its obvious xbox is a better deal. who wants to drop an extra $150 on an ethernet adaptor and an external hardrive for an already obsolete system (coughps2cough). lets see... how about... nobody. here, ill save some of you the hastle of bitching about good graphics being unequal to good games by doing it for you:

"wtf?? i dont care how good the graphics are, the console sucks if the games for it arnt fun"

well, i believe this boils down to the xbox live thing again. the graphics own, and it as addictive as crack. amen.

"well, my gamecubes graphics own, doesnt that make me special too?"

no. it means your 8 years old... and maybe if your really good, santa will bring you mario sunshine this year.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kos.viper on December 19, 2002, 11:48:09 pm
GC has some kind of Radeon, not sure which model, and Xbox has a GeForce3.

Hmm, and XBox Live.... so what are you going to talk about when PS2 and NGC both have online play as well?

What's the point of buying an XBox that has this DVD player if you already have one.... Another thing about Xbox, IS IT BIG ENOUGH? I LIKE BIG CONTROLLERS AND A BIG BOX THAT MAKES IT EASY FOR ME TO CARRY IT TO MY FRIENDS HOUSES AND HOOK UP.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Agent Wallabie on December 19, 2002, 11:57:50 pm
  XBox live is okay. I wouldnt say go buy a XBox becouse of it. I do play some games like SOCOM and etc. online but theres always my Mac.  :D And my PC...  :o

   Wallie~


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: MacMan on December 20, 2002, 10:00:28 am
About the games. I was told by my little brother that Microsoft bought Rockstar. For all you PS2-noobs out there, Rockstar is the company that makes the GTA series games. So that may be one less advantage for Sony.
I deeply hate Microsoft. Even more than George W. Bush jr.
They are too big, as demonstrated by their ability to just buy their way into the console market. And now (if what my brother said is true) the takeover of Rockstar, this could be bad business.

And when are the gonna fucking port Halo to mac?


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 20, 2002, 09:21:01 pm
Mac if what you're saying is true then that's really fucking sad.  :(
It sucks how they can just do shit like that, capitalism really sucks sometimes  :P


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: KoS Ultimo on December 20, 2002, 10:23:43 pm
Jeb... Splinter cell is definatley not on PS2. It is an xbox only game.

Right now Xbox has the best top notch games coming out. With the combination of mechassualt, unreal championship, and splinter cell, where can you go wrong ? Those 3 games are xbox only.

Also... Xbox has the best online setup, better then when ps2 and GC come out with their own. The online abilities of PS2 is horrifying compared to the simplicity of xbox live. Also.... all game work with the headset microphone in xbox live, unlike PS2 which it only works for Socum if I believe right....


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: Jeb on December 20, 2002, 11:15:08 pm
Sure the Xbox is the most powerfull gaming system, however the sales figures are shitty. The Xbox program is being scaled down already (i should know i test games over there). MS wants to make money off the Xbox which they haven't had a chance to yet. Part of that reason is the Xbox is much to expensive for them to sell at 200$ and make profit. All the games that are released on Xbox go dirrectly thru MS, and microsoft takes a big chunk of the profits from the developer. Not to many software developers would want to make a game on the Xbox.

If you look at the PS2, its much more 3rd party oriented, sony's comitment to the 3rd party developers is why there are so many PS2 games out there. The playstation attacts more developers because more people own a PS2, and  sony licenses their media for cheap.
No one will deny that the Xbox has more bells and wistles, but sony will win the battle.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: KoS Ultimo on December 21, 2002, 01:34:11 am
The only reason the Xbox is somewhat failing is because there are people like yourself, everywhere, making the xbox sound shitty. Then poeple are scared to buy the system because of what you write, and then it creates a cycle. You make it sound like the xbox will die like the dreamcast did, therefore people are hesitent to buy and go buy another system. If everyone bought systems completley on qualifications then the xbox would be doing much better.

And in regards to people saying that xbox is like a computer..... microsoft said that they will not be making a keyboard for online play... proving yet again, you shouldnt be comparing xbox to a computer. Just because Microsoft makes PC's doesn't mean automatically it is one.


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: kami on December 21, 2002, 02:53:13 am
Just for the record, microsoft doesn't make pc's, they make the software, the xbox is like a computer because it's built like one with the same basic structure.

Hehe, nice quote there Ult ;)


Title: Re:GAME SYSTEMS
Post by: iGnom3 on December 21, 2002, 07:00:22 am
WHO SERRIOUSLY GIVES A SH*T ABOUT GAME SYSTEMS GOD USE YOUR MAC AND SHUT UP OK xbox costs to much and its big and who cares about "xbox live" your just playing with some nerd or a hillbilly. gamcube is for little kids or 27 year olds who have the mind of one. PS2 is ok because of GTA3 and GTA3:VC. So how cares just play your "game system" in most peoples minds they are equal and if not just play on your mac. >:(