Title: Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: kos.viper on September 24, 2002, 09:32:20 pm I hope everyone votes no!!! LET'S MAKE THE GAME REAL!!!
(To Mods: This is my protest to express my opinion towards 3rd person letting everyone know how I feel. I am free to say what I want, do NOT lock the thread or delete the thread in your attempts to be the number one moderator.) Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: KoS Ultimo on September 24, 2002, 09:37:06 pm 3rd person gone = I'm gone (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: PsYcO aSsAsSiN on September 24, 2002, 10:24:24 pm When did this happen? I thought that 3rd person was supposed to be an option that would be left on unless both teams wanted it off.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: *DAMN Mauti on September 24, 2002, 10:30:11 pm Well we had this discussion last season as well but the poll was screwed so I forced 3rd person. However I got many requests to put a poll up again for the 2nd season. 59percent voted for 3rd person off and thats the new default setting. Of course if both sides want to use 3rd person you can enable 3rd person.
You can see it as practice for Raven Shield that doesn't have a 3rd person feature anymore. Bye, Mauti Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 25, 2002, 01:08:13 am Uhh...Viper...without a reticle there isn't a way to aim as you can't see your gun (and thus can't look through your gun's sight). So no, reticles shouldn't be tuned off. I suppose you could call just shooting what is in the center of the screen aiming, but no, sorry that just doesn't work...I tried playing Medal of Honor Frontlines which does that and I couldn't hit a thing...it is just awful.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Jeb on September 25, 2002, 01:21:51 am i just hate how people who shall remain nameless (AGT colin) complain about 3rd person and things.
All the people who use 3rd person the most seem to be the vets of the community. i don't think that i use 3rd person for the tactical advantage to often, i usualy like to watch myself run around with it (i don't know why but i do) then i also use 3rd for camping, mainly on chalet. If thats a reason to ban 3rd, then i'd camp in first person if i cared. btw, why not mention sensors. alot of bitches like to complain about that Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Typhy on September 25, 2002, 01:40:23 am Kinda funny how certian clans complain so much about the little removal of a thing like third person. Viper, the diffrence here is that in real life you have an immage using a marker on your gun or a scope to aim through. In a game, you can't get that view, that is why reticules are used. So in actuality, removing the reticule would be less realistic.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Jeb on September 25, 2002, 02:08:51 am i think its bothersome for people to bitch about sensors, pdws, and 3rd person.
if you don't want that go play infitration. Just be glad we can't jump Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 25, 2002, 03:44:46 am Well, I certainly wasn't in favor of removing third person...but alas the majority has spoken...but like Mauti said, you CAN use it if both sides agree on it. Hopefully only a few sour apples will not allow it.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: kos.viper on September 25, 2002, 04:10:43 am The majority of noobs and non vet's have spoken you mean bondo. They would most likely be the ones voting because they don't like it how they get owned non stop by people who using 3rd person.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Geek USA on September 25, 2002, 05:45:20 am 3rd person was a queer feature anyway. i never used it, so banning it from cbs certainly made my job easier. all the vets that bitch about not having 3rd are lazy... possible because they want to spend less time on RS and more on TO. you know who you are.. whores ;D
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 25, 2002, 08:26:56 am Viper, if you guys are vets and non-noobs, then you'll be able to adapt to this rule and be good without Third Person...or are you saying Third Person is what made you guys good players?
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Jeb on September 25, 2002, 08:47:21 am I haven't noticed 3rd person to be a big problem as far as camping goes in cbs.
well the isrl battle between ict and that other one had some hard core campage in it. but it was in spots that didn't require 3rd person. Other than that once little battle, i've never camped in a cb. Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: *DAMN Mauti on September 25, 2002, 10:29:45 am Next to my comments on the BL news site I want to add that this decision has nothing to do with realism. 3rd person was turned off because 59percent wanted it off. I also used 3rd person myself however most people are happy with this new rule so we will use it this season.
If KoS really wants to leave the BL don't blame it on me that's bs. Obviously you are just afraid for something new I didn't expect this behaviour from a clan that won sovereign the 1st season. At all it was a community decision and not my own and the BL works together with the community. Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: KoS Ultimo on September 25, 2002, 08:52:02 pm Who said kos was leaving, I said I won't be playing, not KoS.
The simple fact that you changed a rule which was already there because of alittle 9 % difference mind boggles me. The simple fact that your gonna force poeple to play with modded maps mind boggles me. The simple fact that your questioning my clans senioritity just because we don't support you mind boggles me. The simple fact that you don't listen to what veteran players say, and just listen to an over populated noob group mind boggles me. I will guarentee that half the peole who voted to disable 3rd person didn't even know what it was, however just "something that killed them". For the amount of you guys who bitch on pc players, you should look in the mirror. When a game comes out for pc people dont sit back on a forum and bitch about, yet they play and play and play untill they learn how to use it and win with it. The Mac community is becoming into a area which one person will start a suggestion, and 100 noobs will mimic what he says without thinking twice about it. However, just because I dont' agree withwhat your doing doesn't mean my clan won't play in the BL. I will just sit out and watch people say "last season was alot more fun" and laugh (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif) Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: +-KoS-+Rebel on September 25, 2002, 09:02:07 pm Well all I know is that when people bitch about me and gorf and ult using third its because they are getting owned. If you want the game to be MORE realistic u need to remove the following things...
Reticules- THe reticules for most the guns are messed up like PDW, Uzi, G36K etc Every gun except the 9mm pistol- In real life i doubt any of the guns are as horribly designed as in RS. My point is, If you want real, go buy two guns and shoot eachother. THATS REAL. For now i am playing computer game that is not real therefor taking away things that "arent real" is like taking away the cpu game itself. I stand my ground. 10 Bucks says the next post is Typhy or Rapid saying im wrong. L8ers +-KoS-+ Rebel Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 25, 2002, 09:43:18 pm Ult, the vote in favor of getting rid of it was 59 to 41...that is 18 points not 9.
Also, the reason he says KoS is because 3-4 people from KoS have said they aren't playing anymore. It seems that KoS is the only clan that is really having a problem with the rule. And you say vets are the ones who want it, I'll remind you that OoA (Reaper I believe) was the one who asked for the vote...OoA is generally considered a vet clan as well...so don't give me this n00b conspiracy against KoS stuff. If you know how I feel about MoH (leanwalking, shotties, rockets, etc should not be allowed) then you can see that I probably wouldn't look kindly upon people who use third person to do something they couldn't do with first person. Finally, like I said earlier, find people to play who will allow you to use third person, then you can still use it. Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: +-KoS-+Rebel on September 25, 2002, 09:46:48 pm Realism = not for people who play video games
u want realism??? do this (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/uzi.gif) ::) Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Oso on September 25, 2002, 09:51:56 pm guys you all forget... this is a god damn game
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Colin on September 25, 2002, 10:25:48 pm lol, i'm not gonna argue, but for now i am gonna consider myself as one of these "elite" players (u know i am :D) who are opposed to third person being banned. Most of us who know what it is, barely use it! I am used to it being on, so it will still always be on in my games. I will accept that it's being removed from the Bl rules but i still think it's a bad move. Speculation that KoS uses 3rd all of the time is wrong and only shows how ignorant and pathetic the accuser is. I have watched gorf, no not after i die by pressing pageup but while he's home and right beside me playing on his laptop or on the new g4 (u whore). He barely uses it at all, nope, i'm afraid they r just owning u with pure experience and skill. I'm only saying this cause i have seen one the best rs player in gr up-close and i know the truth.
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)Colin---Cuo Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: +-KoS-+ Gorf on September 25, 2002, 11:14:41 pm and now for my thoughts:
IT'S ROGUE SPEAR. the programmers put something unrealistic in the game, wowzers! that's why it's a fucking SIMULATION. it's not supposed to be realistic you fruitcakes. It's a G-A-M-E. If you don't enjoy a certain aspect of the game then fucking DON'T PLAY. it amazes me that people who don't know what they're talking about (aka NOOBS) can just all of a sudden come to GR in numbers and ruin it for the people that have been playing forever. ~btw i'll be home in a few weeks for a couple days. mehehehe, so get ready. ;D oh and viper, i would seriously vote that reticules be taken off if there was a vote for it. just adds another skill to be learned by all these losers. the noobs take 3rd from us, we take their aimers from them....rofl, and round and round we can go....hahaha until we vote all people with GR ID# > 50,000 out of the BL....lmao P.S. - wow junior year at boarding school is just amazing. did you know that freshmen-to-junior is the most popluar hookup in high school? owned. ;D Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: +-KoS-+Rebel on September 25, 2002, 11:58:24 pm OMG!!!! I actually agree with colin! And he is correct. People say KoS uses third all the time...I just lean back in my chair and lmao. While im gunnin u down and u say im using third i just want u to cry me a fuckin river. Understand that 31337 RS vets dont use third as much as u think. Ive had someone accuse me of using third when third was OFF! Thats just how stupid some of you are. Ok nough said.
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/rambo.gif)Killers On Spree (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/rambo.gif) ps. KoS will still own (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 26, 2002, 01:12:19 am Gorf, you seemed to ignore me saying that OoA Reaper who has a 30000 account is the one who asked for the poll, that is a lower accoun number than you have by 20000. So stop acting like you are some vet who knows better than others.
The reason 3rd person was removed isn't to do with realism. It has to do with people not wanting it to be allowed. It is as simple as that. Also, based on the early results of the poll attached to this thread, we have no reason to make a real poll about it. Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: +-KoS-+ Gorf on September 26, 2002, 01:18:47 am hey bondo how about fuck you? my original acount was 30000 too and i gave it to colin. so blow me.
btw the realism thing is an example of a REASON that most of these noobs voted it off. owned bitch. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_bluh.gif) Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Colin on September 26, 2002, 01:28:23 am my account was 30608 but it got deleted so i have a big account number now :(
i love this guy--> :o and this guy--> (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif) and this guy--> (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) but this is definately the best--> :D :D :D :D :D (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)Colin---Cuo Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 26, 2002, 01:30:07 am hey bondo how about fuck you? my original acount was 30000 too and i gave it to colin. so blow me. Good for you Gorf...doesn't change that Reaper is a vet. Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Ace on September 26, 2002, 01:49:24 am This is getting pointless and retarded. If you guys want to bitch and moan about BL issues like 3 year olds, do it in the BL forums, not here.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: ReapeR on September 26, 2002, 04:09:47 am Yah, all you "vets" out there, calm down. If you did not use third so much, like you say, then why are you caring so much now? Everyone knows 3rd person is cheap. (If you do not think that sitting there without being seen and peeking around corner is not cheap, I do not know what is...) Anyways, 3rd person is off, live with it. You guys can quit playing the game if something you love is turned off. The outcomes of all the previous battle tourneys would have been way different if third person was off, I would bet on that. KoS was number one because of thier third person usage. You can tell me you do not use it often, but come on, you use it all the time! Why the hell is Ulti not be playing if 3rd person was off??? Maybe cause he would suck??? Dunno. Ulti, your a great player, I see no reason to stop playing RS because 3rd person is off... Btw, we all started out as noobs, let this community grow, and soon the noobs will become vets, well, not all of them. Haha.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Colin on September 26, 2002, 04:48:29 am KoS was number one because of thier third person usage\ Reaper, i remember a while back, right before Gorf joined Spear, he had a 2v1, him against u and zak from DAMN (u were both in the subclan RG). I was right beside him and watch as he owned BOTH of u! I don't remember the score but i do remember that back then, neither he nor i knew what 3rd person was. I didn't want to bring this up seeing as i didn't have a grudge against u but what u said above is not true! I still watch gorf, one of the best KoS's (possibly the best, sry ulti), own without using 3rd. Ulti is probably pissed that a bunch inexperienced people want and have the ability to ban something JUST because they think they were killed by it. Ulti probably also figures that 3rd will not be the only thing to go just cause newbs were killed by it. I have never seen someone (besides jeb...heh) really camp with third and i know that any respectible clan, of which includes pretty much every clan on gr, would never do it in a cb. If they did, they would lose their reputation and nobody would want to cb them. Same thing goes with c4! :D :D :DColin---Cuo OMFG i love this smiley!!!----> :D Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 26, 2002, 04:57:25 am Colin, this isn't a complete democracy here. The only reason we allowed a vote for disallowing third person is because there was merit to doing so. Trust that if someone tries to change a rule that has no reason to be changed, they couldn't get it changed simply by winning a vote. There are times when we'll work with the community for what they think is best, there are others where we probably know better than others and will put our foot down. So with that said, Ult has no need to fear...unless of course his talent lies only in the use of third person.
Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: +-KoS-+ Gorf on September 26, 2002, 05:08:43 am unfortunately bondo and a few others with low IQ's here don't really understand the point.
It's part of the game. Deal with it. You can't just edit a game to make it noob friendly. RS is a hard game to play. harder than most of it's kind. maybe if you pussies (ie: reaper) could swallow and not spit, and learn how to use it, then u could bitch less, and suck harder. Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: .vooDoo. on September 26, 2002, 06:03:22 am maybe if you pussies (ie: reaper) could swallow and not spit, and learn how to use it, then u could bitch less, and suck harder. lol, nice analogy, do you speak from personel experience??? I personely dont care if 3rd person stayed or went...in fact i cant even remember what i voted for. In game play, if the host has it on, I use it. If its off, I dont. But what I will say, is that it is cheap and everyone that uses it knows it. I can say that I forsee some big problems with this coming season with one clan wanting to use 3rd and the other not wanting to use it. ex:if Agt cb'ed KoS they would ask us to use 3rd. I would say no. They would say, its an option. I would say, I know They would complain that the only reason that we wont use 3rd is that we can beat them with it. I will say, I DONT CARE. etc. etc. etc....... Im sorry to use KoS as an example, but as a fact, Ultimo will be the one to start the bickering. And I or i should say the rest of the battle league clans will have to listen to it. And I for one, dont want to hear it. LETS JUST PLAY!!!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) Title: Re:Let's make RS as real as possible! Post by: Bondo on September 26, 2002, 07:00:03 am Alright, this is fucking ridiculous (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/adminowns.gif)
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