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What is the best program to make a web site?

I have Adobe GoLive along with all other adobe programs.  On the other hand, I also have macromedia studio MX (dreamweaverMX, flashMX, etc...)

So which one do i use?  I am trying to make a site all in flash so it looks really nice, but i really like the golive interface.  What program was used to make the DAMN site?  also what is all this BS about a "dynamic site."  do i really need to take a college course on all this ASP or PHP crap.

Also, i have seen this type of forum on about 10 other sites.  Where does this come from?  Is it included in some app and that's why it's so popular or what?
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It all depends on you. Easiest for me is HTML... Straight HTML, is just is logical... Other then that Dreamweaver rules...

Ben

Ben is right, but if you're like me and dont know a bit of HTML use Dreamweaver, its tottally better.

I made some hella good sites with Dreamweaver and Flash 5. But, since you're looking to make it flashalicious, i say just make the main shiznat with Flash then just do the text and what not with HTML. You can seperate it with a frameset for uber sexiness. While i'm telling you all this, why don't i just make your site?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) Anyway, yes, a Flash app and Dreamweaver work very well together, considering it requires minimal skill and both are Macromedia programs which helps with the whole compatability thingamabob. Dreamweaver :)

I had an uber sexy site here: http://www.bronto.8k.com/ but, as you can see, i never got my 48 dollars.

omg n00b html all the way...

Can we download any of these programs? i suck with websites and would like to make a cool one...

Is that about my site?

You can download the programs in various areas of the internet but that doesnt mean that you should.

and for those of you who dont know, you cant do straight html in any text editor, also, bb edit lite works

there are also some freeware apps that will do simple website work as well

i use photoshop, then export grapics to imageready to make imagemaps with rollovers.. then i modify the html files made by image ready in dreamweaver MX...
pretty simple

Hey Guys, I say Go Live is the best program, but can you guys tell me which is the most user friendly web program for an idiot like me  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) who doesnt know anything about programming and shit, just wants to do a straight basic site?

Dest, let me know what you want. and i will make a layout for you. or if you want i will help you. just email me at Snake@planetrambowsix.com

Snake, I think you meant Snake@planetrainbowsix.com -assassin

Dreamweaver is god. Period.

I am the Dreamweaver god. Period.

ejo is a noob. Period.

but anyways.. yea. Dreamweaver is a lot better, even though it take a bit to find all its useful features, the most important ones are all easily accessible. and i've used it for a few years, so it kinda makes better sense than anything else to me

the best program for making websites is simpletext, noob  8)

it doesn't take a college education to be a web designer,
a high end webdesign shop that i'm friends with... none of the people there went to college for webdesign. a college webdesign cet isn't highly esteemed by the high quality webdesign companys.

HTML is simple, i learned it when i was a little noob of 11 (7 years ago), other things come in time... good sites to learn from are...
www.builder.com
www.webmonkey.com
and for learning flash actionscripts...
http://www.moock.org/webdesign/lectures/ff2001sfWorkshop/

gorf, if you wanna be a good webdesigner, i'd sugest you learn it on your own. don't waste your money at some stupid 2 year college to get a cert.
I'm spending my time now learning real programing, in school.
jeb
ps. look at the source of websites to see how they work, it will help you get started.
 

Gorf the reason why you see our forum on other websites is that it is a free board by YaBB - see credits at the bottom of this page.

I wrote the whole site by hand using the full version of BBEdit. I don't like any editors. For graphics I use my Photoshop 6.0.

amen to that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

heh i actually am in the process of making a webpage for a collage, and im still in highschool

http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/samek_artgallery/home.html (http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/samek_artgallery/home.html)

i know, the flash animation is shit, hehe, but im making a better once once the rest of the page is done.. oh, and the link things on the bottom dont work yet because they are probobly going to be changed next time i go in

woa, damn, i just realized mozilla makes it look shitty (i made it on IE). i guess ill have to fix that too >:(

Thanx a lot jeb for the advice, and Mauti I envy you.  That's insane.  What language did you program it in?

Jeb what languages do you know and is knowing HTML necessary?  Would it be more valuable to learn Flash code?

and wtf r u people talking about making a webapge in simpletext?  explain?

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you write out the html code in simpletext, then you save it as a .html file and presto: its a webpage

actually what you do is you save it as a text file with .htm on the end

ex: page.htm

In response to the last two posts - it really doesn't matter.  Most browsers will automatically open it as a web page if it has the right extension (.htm or .html) and its made in a plain text editor (not a word document, for example)

As for my personal preferences, I think the biggest single advantage to an editor like Dreamweaver or GoLive is the ability to preview your pages.  When you're writing out the code by hand, it's awfully nice to be able to simply click a button and see what the product will look like in any browser.

On that note, the graphical outline in Dreamweaver is closest to what you will see in most browsers.  It tends to be more compatible with all versions, etc. and thus is my favorite program.  Both Dreamweaver and GoLive are good options, though, and which you use is mostly a matter of which pallette layout you prefer.

If you're a newbie and don't feel like learning anything at all about web design (by reading websites like the ones that have been suggested, for example) I suggest you use a template from one of the programs.  The easiest ones to use that I've seen have been in Microsoft's Frontpage.  But then again, that's because they are catering to the majority of the population, who know nothing but want to have a website (which is part of why they have PCs...but I won't get into that  :D)

Other thoughts - Photoshop is an absolute must if you want decent graphics on your site that don't take up huge amounts of bandwidth.  However, I think the code that ImageReady creates for you when you make image maps and rollovers sucks.  Use Dreamweaver or GoLive for that.

Also, hand coding is great, but I've always found it easier to just edit what the editor creates for you.

As for flash, I hate it because it doesn't work with older browsers, and I find it really annoying when a site isn't compatible.  (That's always been my only beef with the forums - they don't work in my antique netscape 4.7)

Whoever had the idea about viewing the source of other web pages was dead right.  That's always been a help for me.

Anything else?  Oh yeah...take a look at my work in progress, my Dad's business website.  Obviously it's not entirely finished yet but I'll let you all know when it is.  I want comments!

Capitol District Law Offices (http://www.capitolaw.com/test)

hmm, not bad

same here, its ok, but u need some life into it! I know its a Law Frim but it still doesnt have that "corporate look". You may go back to the design faze and workout the color and layout. email me if u need some more crits!

I just tried the forums out with NS4.72 and everything works fine except the CSS tags. At all you can view the whole site with NS 4.72 but it messes up the backgroundcolors but you get all the info.

Bye,

Mauti