*DAMN R6 Forum

Well last night someone asked Evill what he thought about this new Gamesmith coming out.  His reply was go try it out for yourself.  I was rather confused, not thinking that it was out in any way or form yet.  But it comes attached to a game called Last Contact.  Then Evill gave us this link.  http://lastcontact.greendragon.com/download.html  He sounded pretty confident and now I know why.  


Gamesmith is a type of Gameranger with many less features.  In Gamesmith there are no buddy lists, real preferences, icon choices or instant messages, you have to write /msg Infection.  Also, there are no account numbers so you can't call someone a noob =).  Not a big deal but I would have had one of the newer ones if it was to become popular.

While the feature mentioned above can be lived without, these problems can't.  Normally for this Gamesmith you would want some games for it no?  There are like 5 freeware games on Gamesmith.  Nothing that I've ever heard of, none impressive at all.  When one of the creators was asked about games coming out he delayed and said that we should just look at the site www.gamesmith.biz and take a look at the developers and take a guess.  It doesn't look like they will be having Rogue Spear though guys.  Also it isn't going to be a separate application for a while, 2-3 weeks now maybe.  

There were about 15 users on, along with a few people from gameranger that came with me to check it out.  Evill, Reaper, Ejo and Agt Snipe.  Only 15 people!  Then the unthinkable happened.  The server crashed. :o.  We gave the creator, Bryon, this list of problems and things that need to be added.  He thought about some of them but I didn't find Gamesmith to be very impressive.  It would have been nice if he was atleast different from Gameranger.  But to be basically the same as Gameranger with many less features.  Blah, you guys should check it out for yourself and judge.

Do you know if all the games will Be on gamesmith? And why is it coming out if it is so much more inferior to Gameranger?

Zaitzev: Gamesmith will probably have more games then Gameranger. What really sux is that you dont have a buddy list and you dont know what host your buddy is in. I would stay on Gameranger and not move to Gamesmith.    Gamesmith(Gay Smith)     Gamwranger(Sweetness)
                     :P                         (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif)

Seriously, wtf is wrong with you.  Do you not fucking read anything.  If either one of you post in this thread again it's going to be deleted.  Mauti, I've warned them.  I'm requesting the banning of them from the forums for a little while to stop this spam please.  Now can we please get on topic.  Try out Gamesmith guys and post your reactions.

Ok, im kinda comfused, so kinda bear with me.

Game Smith is A MAc gaming place?

Is it available for DL?

What was the use of that urll you listed above?

thx
-5150

I'm gonna go cry now.

wtf why, did i do some thing wrong?

-5150

no offense but gamesmith was very confusing. i didnt understand it

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/hm.gif) Now Infect, I am under the impression this is the thing that was released way abck when. Im gonna go talk to the ppl at GS.

I recall a few weeks back we had a thread about GameSmith, in that thread I thought we said something about a stand alone version of GameSmith in early workings...

Since I dont want to retype all that, I have confirmation from a member this is a older version. I belive this is the macworld NY version...the one we never were able to find... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/hm.gif) If this information is true the next version is yet ot be released... sorry if i confused any1  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/shocked2.gif)

Where can i test game Smith?

-5150

5150, Go upto Infect's First post and look at the first website clikc on that Download it and test it.

Well, as Infection told you, I did try out GameSmith, and let me tell you, it sucked. There wasn't even Rogue Spear! No buddy list, no prefs, no clear gamelist, no users, no private messaging...I could go on, but I don't feel like it. One last note, to anyone who said it doesn't matter if you get banned anymore cause there's always GameSmith, think twice before you get Evill pissed off.

 :-[                                            ::)?

*sighs* I have to call every one of you morons. None of you were around when Gameranger was starting out, so you dont know how it was. Give this thing a little bit to develop itself and I am sure they will get the kincks and other problems worked out. I am sure it will later incorporate a buddy list, more games, etc...you have to give things a little time. I am sure they didn't waste their money to make a simple chat application.

Hell, you all seem to be lacking in short term memory when Gameranger would crash for weeks at a time with no explanation.

5150, infect said where in the first post

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/so.gif) Ehem, this has proven to be pure stupidity on our part... This is one of Evills tricks...He wants us to see how bad the first preview of GS is...As i said in a earlyier post, this was the MWNY release that we searched high and low for.

Stop bad mouthing Gamesmith. As stated in a earlyier topic about Gamesmith, the new stand alone version of it is being developed!  Anyhoo, stop bitching and start relising that scott is tricking you to get away from GS early...  

(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif) Good try scott

Sin, I'll have you know that Gamesmith is older and has been worked on longer and by more people than Gameranger.  If this is all they have so far it is a little sad.  So don't be calling me a moron.  The creator told me the stand alone preview will be out in 2-3 weeks but the games lined up don't look too promising, doesn't seem that there is going to be any Rogue Spear.

Well, reading this thread I see that we have more concerns than Gamesmith...hey children (I think you know which of you I am talking to) please stop playing games and read some books or if that is too much for you, sign up for some sort of tutoring program so that you can be literate.  The ability to read really will pay off more than the ability to shoot things.

As for Gamesmith...I think I'll wait for it full version release before I comment.

yeah gamesmith looks odd in its beta stage ill wait for the full version

Does anyone other than Sin, and myself actually remember GameRanger first came out??


Apparently Mattster does also but I deleted that post because I'm a man of my word.

Whatever happened to GameScouter?

...it sure looked promising for a little while...

 ???

I can't even open Game Smith lol.

Yeah, what did ever happen to gamescouter?  I knew those guys they were cool. Oh well, maybe they got bored and mature.

GameSmith needs quite a bit of work to be good enough to want to move to. But I am willing to wait for upgrades to be done to it.

heheheh, yeah i remember.... it would suddenly go out tand not come back for a week or two...or three....oh and people werent so mean....and there were plenty of newbs to own  ;D ;D

Rumor has it that GameSCOUTER 1.3 will be released soon. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/soon.gif)

i have been perma-banned from GS in a record 23 seconds because it SUCKS  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/dj.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)

Actually, the current Mattster doesn't, while his account is in the 200s, ( Same as my first one ), it was created by his father, not by him.

in the 200's typhy, what happened to it?

i do believe that gamescouter fizzled out.
shame too, it had evill really shaking in his shoes

what was gamescouter anyway?

Changed my internet connection, so I lost cbyrnes@ptialasa.com, or whatever it was and became accounts with just alaska.com, my ISP has an agreement with alaska.com, which is actually a big tourist site I guess. In this time I also got a new computer, and account 9551.

(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif) i f*cking told you guys that game smith blows goats cause i tried game smith like 4 months ago its nothing big it will never messure up to game ranger even though sometimes game ranger and be very strict or filled with noobs but still it wont messure up to it face it game ranger is here 2 stay for awhile :D (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_lol.gif)

MacGamer reports:

"Perhaps one of the most interesting products from Freeverse is a new spin on something they've been doing for years: GameSmith. Using their HMS Freeverse technology, they'll be expanding the online game matching service to include tons of non-Freeverse games, and will evolve the application iTz?lf to have a whole new life as GameSmith. The interface will be revitalized with easy skinning technology (all the themes are stored in an XML file, so modifying the interface isn't difficult at all), and players will have extensive rankings and ladders through which to keep an eye on their progress (and each other). There will even be support for clans and teams. GameSmith has already launched and expansions (which will include Windows functionality and a fuller complement of non-Freeverse games) will be brought into play shortly."

Obviously GameSmith is far away from release and if they can realize all those ideas we could get an interesting product. At the moment it  ONLY SUCKS. They also should change the whole interface and rework the user database structure.

Whoever said that Gameranger sucked in the beginning was right. It was really boring and the only games there were things like Stratego, A-Hole, etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there weren't accounts in the very first beta stage, since I never had to register when I first tried it out back in early 98 or 97..

How 'bout everyone stops ragging on GameSmith and give it a year... See what happens. Gameranger couldn't have started with all the features it has now. Let gamesmith build on itself, THEN make your judgements...

Ben

 I do belive that in the beta stages there were no accounts, you are correct. I would agree with what Ben said, give Gamesmith time, it takes a lot of work to do things like that, most of you guys came into GameRanger after it became good, but belive me, it's not always been like that.

Typhy and Ben, Gamesmith has been worked on and out longer than Gameranger just to let you know.  Also Typhy, I don't know what you are doing with all of the different fonts, but don't use mine.

Hazard commented on the same thing, don't worry about it, I was just trying somthing out. Also, what the hell are you talking about? GameRanger origonaly started in 1996, the first beta was released in 1997, I am not sure, but I do belive this is how it went. Please explain youself.

If you're wondering about the fate of GameScouter, they changed their name and i think are under new managment, the apps new name is now Global Mac Gamming [i think] you can find screens and more info here http://www.chronostorm.net/Modules/Projects/GMG/Screenshots.php



jn

p.s. i can make a booger talk

Cool!  I took a look at it and joined their mailing list...it seems promising...

What is it that keeps stunting all these potential alternatives though?

Heh, I see Cow and CDiabloCool on there...wonder what they did to get a thanks for...

I wouldnt be surprised if Evill was working behind the scenes trying to kill these upstarts (i.e. trying to get software companies to not support their application)

It looks like Chronostorm is following in the footsteps of Gamescouter alright.  Half the web pages are empty or broken, the last time one of them posted on the discussion boards was in March, and they talk a good game.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ukliam2.gif)

Too bad.

about gameSCOUTER/GMG:
http://hulla-balloo.com/openletter/

That was a good link El Patrick, thanks for it.

It doesn't really change my opinions on Chronostorm either.  It just enforced them.

From that, it sounds like ChronoStorm isn't going to get anywhere without the help of this guy.  Obviously his presentation is biased from his viewpoint, but I'm inclined to agree with him.  I think everyone here ought to read that article, just to have the proper perspective.

Moderators, consider re-stickying this.

wtf are you talking about Typhy...
only +-KoS-+ HockeyGuy can tell you some shit about the birth of GR... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)

Gamesmith rox... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/banana.gif)

Ask my dad //kren about the Birth of Gameranger he was the 12 on Gr but he had to change his Account # number because all of the first 12  account peoples accounts got trashed hes been here since the start.

for those of you who didnt actually bother to read the full letter linked above, you missed this link
http://hulla-balloo.com/openletter/images/gradmin.jpg (http://hulla-balloo.com/openletter/images/gradmin.jpg)

this proves that kevill can ban you for asking for FREE SPEACH.


i certianly hope that this site has changed since this screenshot was taken, and that that rule is no longer in effect.
if it is it explaind how kevll can ban us for no apparent reason.

i just wish that he'd actually bother hearing our side of the story(in it's entierty) and actually respond to our questions(in a non cryptic way) before he reaches for the ban button

oh, and by the way, if you look at the screenshot above it says that simply having the same name is not  grounds for being banned. the evill a, evill b, etc.  was perfectly legit according to his rules